Stop Hosting Networking Events Like This - Gil Petersil

Speaker A: I'm on this journey of finding new algorithms, of how we can connect, how we can disconnect and reconnect to the humans that we need so that we could achieve what it is that we're meant to do. What is? It's our ikigai, our dharma, our destiny. Whatever it is that's driving us forward, we can't do it on our own. Right. We need people around us. So what is that right algorithm to put those people around us?

Speaker B: Welcome to the Jason Mark Campbell Business Podcast, where we explore what it really takes to lead and grow a business and ultimately live well. In every episode, we go beyond tactics to discover how entrepreneurs and leaders across different sectors are growing with love, impact, and integrity. Welcome, everybody. We're going to be speaking about the state of connections, the state of communities in 2026. As we are recording this, we want to speak about how is the world evolving? Because one thing is for sure, and AI is now here. We've heard it a thousand times. I don't want to talk about AI on the conversation today. Rather, we want to talk about where does the role of humanity look like in this world and how do we connect to each other? How do we form communities? Most companies and systems that advocate for community, you join a group and it's absolutely dead. And people are truly, deeply connecting. And so I've brought today the expert on bringing these communities alive. And he's the man behind Chat Tea, which is a worldwide movement of bringing tea lovers that want to connect deeply into these beautiful events and truly getting in a chance to build that community and connection. And he's also the man behind Human Garage, which is a fascia movement. It's one of the fastest growing businesses when it comes to personal growth, bringing this new modality to the world. And he's been on the show a few times speaking about masterminds, speaking about networking. And today we are really going to dive about this state of connections to see how do we navigate whether that's in our personal lives or in business. Just bringing more wealth, success and fun in our lives overall. Gil Peterso, welcome back. Love it.

Speaker A: Love it. Thank you very, very much for the introduction. Thank you for having me back. Yeah. Being on this journey of finding ways of connecting people, going through this space of uncomfortableness that we need to go through in life to connect people, to connect ourselves to people. Chati has been a fun journey to go through to understand how something as simple as a cup of tea could help people connect Human Garage. I'm definitely not the guy behind Human garage. There's three beautiful founders there. But I'm now the guy that they've brought on board a few months ago to help understand what is missing in the community. What is it, uh, how does the community of the future look like, especially when you're building the biggest community in the world of coaches that are meant to heal us using fascia maneuvers? What does that mean? What is needed in the world? And when we look at what's happening in the world today, there are challenges. People are talking about communities, but communities are not sustainable. People are talking about being a part of a tribe, but they're not really being heard. You know, just some loudmouth people are talking, or the extroverts are talking a lot more. The one that runs the community does all the talking, but the actual community members don't get to be heard properly, or they don't get to voice out what they truly need. So at the end of the day, you're not getting the connections you need. And I'm on this journey of finding new algorithms of how we can connect, how we can disconnect and reconnect to the humans that we need so that we could achieve what it is that we're meant to do. What is? It's our ikigai, our dharma, our destiny. Whatever it is that's driving us forward, we can't do it on our own. Right. We need people around us. So what is that? Right? Algorithm to put those people around us. That's gonna be a fun topic.

Speaker B: It is. And it's interesting you use the term algorithm, because with technology, there was almost like a grand promise of bringing us all together. I mean, we went on the Facebook, the social medias, the grand promise of, like, we're bringing the world together. The world becomes a smaller place. It's brought a lot of opportunities. Like, I can keep in touch with people I hadn't seen, you know, 10 years ago. I might still be connected with them. But we're also seeing, on the flip side, an epidemic of loneliness and people feeling isolated more than ever. So what have you seen around that in your research?

Speaker A: It's such a beautiful extreme to bring up where, like, we feel so connected because social media, we've access to everyone in the world. But, yeah, mental health and loneliness is a huge problem around the world. Because when. When social media came in, I remember that a lot of us like, uh, ah, this is not for me. Or like, people got on and like, oh, my God, I'm so getting off, because I don't want to be Connected with all my friends from high school, there was. It was this trend of, like, I don't want to be connected to this old network. That's why I've moved on from them. And then suddenly we understood that, well, we're all now active on social media.

Speaker B: We're not all.

Speaker A: Some of us, you know, are active on social media. But has anyone really taught us how do we integrate social media into our everyday lives? Like, no one has ever taught us that. Like, it's not taught in schools, it's not taught in jobs, and, like, maybe companies should have a class to teach you how and where to use social media to better yourself as an employee. Like, how do you use social media? Not to sell more in business, to develop your brand within that community? Because social media is useful. It's just, uh, your CV online. It's a way to show people a little bit of your history, personally or business. It's also a way to share with a large group of people, hey, this is where I am and this is what I'm up to. Because many people still know me as the Tony Robbins guy, because I've been doing that for 13 years. And suddenly people are like, hey, guy. Gil, you're the tea guy. Well, like, am I the tea guy? Yeah, I love serving tea. I love tea, but I'm still the connection guy. That's always been my mission. So what I'm seeing right now in the world is that loneliness has been caused by two factors. One, when people connect, they're like, let's stay in touch on social media. Do you have Instagram? Do you have let's connect? And then they don't have a mode of following up. So they don't have a discipline.

Speaker B: They don't.

Speaker A: There is no. Again, I'm, um, going to use this word algorithm, an algorithm that has trained me how to open my phone on a specific time or days of the week and say, now I will connect with people that I am not connected with, but I've recently connected with the first time. Like, there isn't. I've given myself specific times in the day and the week to specifically follow up with people that I have recently met. And they're somewhere down in my inbox. And unless I have the discipline to follow up with them, they're going to get lost. Because the people that I'm regularly talking to will keep on getting on the top of the box. And people get overwhelmed with networking. So there is no that ability, the habit, the spiritual habit of saying, let me reconnect. So where are we right now? Is this position of, like, I'm connecting with people on social media, but I'm not connecting enough offline. We had Covid that completely disconnected us. And as humanity, I think we got sick. Not just physically sick, but we got sick mentally, where we had to deal with loneliness and we had to deal with being on a Zoom call in a meeting. Zoom is great, but why are people joining meetings and not turning their cameras on? Like, that's something that's not okay. Like, we used to be in a meeting in a boardroom, or we went out with friends for coffee or tea or a meal, and there is no way to turn off the camera. You can't be like this. You're in front of each other, which means we can feel each other, we can sense, we can intuitively connect with each other. We could see how you feel. But if you're showing up to meetings and you have your camera off, what does that mean? Like, where have we gotten to a society? And I think because of AI right now, it's going to get much worse before it gets better, because AI is going to replace a lot of people's girlfriends and a lot of people friends, a lot of people therapists. It's like, wow, where's it going to go? But I believe that towards the end of 26, 2027, there's going to be a massive shift of, like, I miss human touch. Like, I need it. And we're going to have deep human connection and touch for the next few years until maybe in 2030, 2030 something, we'll have some robots that could touch us like a human being does. And then we're. We're then. Then come back to me for another podcast, please, and we'll talk about how to differentiate a networking between a human being and a robot. But I think we're in this place of, like, finding out what is right for me. And everybody needs to really look at, like, what do I stand for when it comes to building relationships and being open to say, what do I wish for my network? And many, many times I've been through really difficult times in my life and business where I didn't feel that my network had my back. I felt that the network were holding me back. So whether it was family and I had to, like, distance myself from family for times, or whether it was like my friends in a big city when I was living in Moscow and had all these friends and I had to distance myself from all of them because I got into personal development and suddenly our, uh, Networks shifted because I wanted people that wanted personal development and they wanted to continue making money and partying. So I find that now, 2026, ideal time to audit our networks and ask ourselves, what network do we want to be a part of and what are we bringing to the network? Not what are we looking to get from it, but what are we bringing? Like, now more than ever before, we need to come in and showing up alone as, hey, I'm Gil. It's not enough. We got to show up and we got to bring value.

Speaker B: I want to pull on a trend that I've noticed, particularly in the business space, because you're talking about one of the core habits to develop is like, leaning into wanting to connect with people, reaching out to people, and making the extra effort. But I'll tell you, what I'm seeing with most businesses that are embracing AI in a powerful way is almost like they're trying to stop connecting with as many people as possible. They're using AI to reply automatically to their emails, reply automatically to their slacks, handle all of these little backs and forths so that they can completely block connection. And I feel like we haven't understood what will be the consequences of that. Have you noticed those trends, and do you have an anticipation of the consequence?

Speaker A: Not only am m I noticing the trends, but I'm being offered by many companies that know who I am. Gil, do you want to test out our program? And I'm like, no. Like, first of all, I'm not okay to have an avatar of me or of my voice or of my video online. Not now. Maybe next year. Sure, I'm going to explore. But now it's all my videos and it's also all my voice messages. Because my team came to me and said, gil, look, we've created a perfect avatar of you. This is a video of you. You cannot tell. And I sent it to my mom, and my mom couldn't tell everyone. Like, mom, come on, don't you feel the energy is not there? It's not me. And she was like, I was sure it was you. And then I sent a voice message to my kids. And my kids couldn't differentiate between a voice message of daddy or AI. So it's definitely there. But I told my team I don't want that in because I want to keep the authenticity. If someone wants to talk to me and they give me a reason, I want to talk to them. So I've created almost like a system where if someone wants to talk to me first, they need to say why? And maybe it's not me looking at it. My team will look at it, but then they'll tell me about it. And then if I'm interested, I will leave a short voice message. I will leave a one minute voicemail. You remember my one minute magic and Mastermind. So for me, because I know that we have 1,440 minutes in a day and the average healthy human being will sleep for about 440 minutes in a day. Just 7 hours and 20 minutes. We have a thousand minutes in a day to do one thing, network. It's the only thing we do from the minute we are alive. I believe we also network when we sleep, but we're not going to get into that right now. You know, it's a deep, deep conversation. But you have networking a thousand minutes a day. So you're networking with maybe God and universe, meditation, prayer, you're networking with yourself, taking a shower, going to the bathroom, being alone. Sure, it's nice if you have pets, you're networking with pets. It's nice. Hang out with the dog, you know, take care of the cat. You got to network with pets. If you have them, they need that and then the rest. And some people also want to network with nature. I love networking with nature. Whether you hug a tree, sit on grass, play with the grass, you know, plant something, it's really, really good energy, good to network with nature. Then the rest of the time, let's say they have a thousand minutes, you 800 minutes or so, all you do is you network with other human beings online, offline, and then you got to break it down. Am I networking with new people? Am I networking with old people that I've known for 20 years and I have a biased opinion who they are and they're not going to help me expand that much because we're now co elevating or they're holding like it's not. When you have the same people all the time, you can't grow that much. Or am I networking with people way outside of my comfort zone? They're not new people. They're not people that I've known for a while. They're people that have just shown up in my network through an introduction or at an event and I'm um, now in front of them, like, am I ready to talk to someone brand new? And because we have so much time every day, uh, the systems that I have is now keeping it authentic, keeping it me, my team helps me to reconnect and follow up with people. Because this is, I think, where we need people to help us network, whether it's people or AI. Not to do it for us, but to help us do it. Especially if you're an entrepreneur out there, a business person that wants to manage more than 100 connections. It's not easy to manage more than 150 connections for any human being at any given time. There's an interesting fact that Harvard mentioned at one point that in a normal human being's life, you interact. They didn't use the word network, but you interact and connect with 7,200 people. I don't know where they got that number from. I'm way past that number. I think you're also way past that number. But if we think about it, that kind of makes sense because we don't really talk that much. The taxi driver, some of us do. We don't really talk too much of the lady at the supermarket or the person that serves you at a restaurant. That's not a relationship. People that you actually interact with. 7000 sounds like a pretty, actually big number in a lifetime. So if we think about such a big number, what does it mean to all the connection? Like, what happened to all the connections from two years ago? And this is, I think, where we're stepping into this era of saying every connection really matters. Like, why am I meeting this amazing human being and I have this great connection with him at a friend's birthday party, at an event, an expo, really great connection. There's a bond, there's rapport, we're feeling each other. But because I am so busy, uh, or because, uh, they didn't respond to me, or blah, blah, blah, we're not reconnecting again. And we're going to step now into the space where AI will help us to reconnect with people. And I think that's very, very beautiful. AI will help. AI will say, hey, these people that you know or these people that you met, they're relevant to you now. And hopefully that person will not say, okay, AI you, uh, go network with them. Hopefully our person will say, can you look at my calendar and can you help me make time in my calendar? Because I have a thousand available minutes every day to send that person a message, like, help me create time to network myself, or help me make. Like, can you send them a message on my behalf asking them to know I want to meet with them next week? Like, that's okay to use AI as a really good assistant. But AI will not, I believe, help us build relationships. AI will help point at, uh, the relationships that we should Take time to build.

Speaker B: You spoke about energy in communication and in connection and how its absence is felt when you're using AI. And I want to speak about what is the amount of energy you need to nurture within yourself or manage. Because for some people, the act of connecting with others, the energy that comes up could be anxiety. Like they're feeling like, oh my God, I'm like, I feel resistance to it. And then like, what are the right kinds of energies we should be in if we are reaching out actively?

Speaker A: Such a powerful question, you know, so there's two very important aspects. There's the energy that I'm feeling from you when I'm connecting with you. So there's some people that we meet with and there's a click, there's something there and it's not just you and it's not just me. It could be parts of our state of being that day. What did we eat? Did we sleep well? Did we just have really great sex last night? Did we have like, we just got a promotion? Uh, in our business, like we're in a good state of mind. You know, it's good, good state of body. But also we've had so much experience in connecting with people that we know how to listen and we know how to speak and we know how to be curious and we know how to maybe mirror each other. Like we understand body language a little bit. You know, there's those kind of people who are aware on a quantum level of what I, what I, you know, coined quantum networking mechanics, is when you are able to see and feel the level of detail that makes a massive difference in the way we connect. If you go and eat a super heavy meal before you go to a networking event, it's not going to help you. If you're going to go out to a networking event, you think you, that drinking alcohol is going to help you connect. It's not going to actually help you. It changes our state, not in a positive way. So when people are looking at that detail of like connecting energetically, it's very beautiful because one, you know, we have this energy that we can manage. So sometimes when I go to an event, I know I'm going to go to an amazing event. I'm going to eat very, very light or sometimes nothing at all. I'll come in feeling light, I'll, uh, come in feeling energetic and people feel that right away from me. And when I go to some event and they have all this finger food, I'm not going to start eating all the time because then you have things in your teeth and things in your hands, and your hands are sticky. And that makes a little bit of difference for people that want to connect. Because AI will be able to replicate my voice. But I don't know how much AI will be able to bring it to a position where, you know, when I leave someone a voice message, I can really play with my tone and I can really. They can sense the vibration of my voice. And AI is definitely not there today. It might be there in a few years and sensitive people will feel that. But when someone goes out to an event like right now, we're lucky because AI is still not offline. That's why I find that the future or the current present, but the upcoming future of events is a lot more micro events, local events, people connecting with each other. Less loud music, less party, less alcohol. I see alcohol going down, which is why I love chat, tea, everything at tea going up. And it's more about, can we have a human connection so that I can understand are we relevant to each other? And it will start by do I feel good being next to you? That's the energetically, do I feel nice? And what you mentioned about anxiety, I believe that just comes in from practice. I'm an introvert by nature, and I've seen myself as an introvert again and again in my life. Even till this date, I will still see myself in specific situations. Like, Gil, wow, you're such an introvert. Like, I'll say to my dad, like, come on, Gil, like, you're Gil Petersel. You're the networking guy. Get out there. I'll still see myself there. And because of my background, I'm also an immigrant since the age of 10. There's something about immigrants and the way we network that's very different. So English being my third language, I've learned to speak it a lot and I practiced English a lot in my life. But it's still not my. It's not the language that I was born with. It's the language that I'm most comfortable with right now because I've practiced it. So and with myself specifically, just being very, very open and transparent, being ADHD as well, I get distracted very, very easily. And I need to learn to focus on someone. So when it comes to networking, I need to use energy to network. I need to really give a lot of focus to not be. If I'm talking to an event and a really cute girl just walked by, I need to stay on you. Because I think that is what makes beautiful networking real. Because it's presence, it's not being distracted by someone that walks by. And you know, so many of us do have adhd and so many of us maybe are different spectrums where we do get distracted by everything that's happening. So I constantly tell people, practice makes perfect. You can't learn how to cook without breaking a lot of, you know, eggs badly and there's shell in there or like making a bad sauce. You can't do that. You need to do that. And you can't learn how to play the piano or the violin without sounding bad for a thousand plus hours. You'll sound bad for a thousand plus hours. They said to perfect piano you got to do 10,000 hours. Which means for first 2,000 hours you sound really bad. Meaning when you're in a position, you out there, whoever is, you know, now listening and says, I want to become much better at networking, assume that for the next 2000 hours you're not going to be very good. And I think that's when people start getting out of their anxiety and out of their comfort zone. Because networking is not comfortable. Mhm. At all. And if we ask Google or GPT these days, what are the top five fears of humanity? All five are all connected to networking, public speaking, fear of rejection. All of these aspects of fear are all connected to the way we connect with human beings. So when I'm asking an audience, hey guys, how do you rank yourselves from 1 to 10 in networking? Most audience members will say they think they're a 7 or an 8 out of 10. And I'm like, if you think you're so good, where is there room for improvement? And I tell them, I've written books, spoken at universities, ran over a thousand workshops around the world on this and on my best days with systems working, best state of mind, my team working, all of the software, everything working. I'm um, maybe a six or six and a half out of ten from my education, like from what I've learned. And I tell people that the moment you understand that maybe you're a 2 out of 10, it will humble us to understand, wow, there's so much more growth to the world of connection, to the world of relation. And that's what excites me to continue doing this because there's like so much room for improvement ahead of us.

Speaker B: I'd want you to extend, I don't know if it'd be called an olive branch or at least a, um, a way of alleviating the fear. Because I love the example you talk about, you know, Learning the violin, the piano takes 2,000 hours. You're going to be absolutely terrible. What sucks about networking and everything you're talking about is I can't do it in a little cave with no one else. Um, like, I have to interact with another human. I need to look stupid in front of someone else. And that is, like, if I look stupid in front of the wrong person, I'm going to blow it. Everyone will come back. In 20 years, I'll be at my wedding altar and people be like, hey, remember when you said that really stupid thing at networking? Yeah. People don't forget.

Speaker A: That's like the. That's the reptile reaction.

Speaker B: Right?

Speaker A: Yeah.

Speaker B: Uh, can you speak about, you know, what is the flexibility or the acceptance of being bad at networking at the beginning? How does it get usually get perceived? And is there real danger?

Speaker A: So danger? No. Uh, unless you're in a foreign country in front of some mafia people and you're saying the completely wrong thing and you get shot. But you know, that's not really likely. Like, one, it's how you network. But two, it's also who you network with. Have some common sense, have some street smarts. Don't try to network with everyone in the world. Like, be a little bit picky with where you go networking. The second thing I would say that, uh, anyone that wants. There's just an opposition. Like, I have decided I want to improve the way I build relationships. They need to have a. Why you can't just say, I want to improve networking. It doesn't work. You need to have a reason. I want to meet a woman. I want to. I need more clients in my business. I need to help my parents with money. So I need to create multiple income streams. I need to find a new hobby. And I can't do it alone. I want to do it with others. For example, you know, you need to have a reason where networking will be the main tool that will help you get there. I don't know how to achieve anything really tangible and seismic in my life alone. I don't believe. And I challenge anyone out there to write me and tell me that you've achieved anything alone in your life. Anything, really. Wow. And people have tried to say, I've done this, I've done this. I've zipped up my pen scale and I did my own taxes and I wrote a book and I ran a marathon all by myself. I'm like, no, you didn't do any of those things alone. Someone guided you, told you, you saw someone. We modeled someone we Were inspired by someone. Someone taught us. Someone created the pencil that I zipped up. Like, there's always another human being involved, which means everything that's coming up ahead of us in life, we need networking. It's not. There is no. You can't go through life without it. So either you're completely content, super satisfied with the network you have right now, which some people in life choose to say that to me, and I used to be in a position where I would try to challenge them. Not anymore. No. It's your life. Good luck. Zero interest to try to help you see that the network that you had 10 years ago, there is no way that that is the most relevant network for you right now. It doesn't make sense because it means that what everyone has grown perfectly in synchronicity. No, like, the way to grow is to step out of the network a little bit, and you could still stay connected with these people, but build another network here that pulls you further, teaches you a new hobby, takes you to another country, takes you to another job. So you need to have something that will pull you towards something, towards, uh, an objective, a goal, a location. Once you have that or a few of them, which is fun to have, then you're like, okay, in order to get there, I need connections. I either find a mentor, I find a coach, I find some collaborators. I find a community of people who like to do maybe, like, I want to do acro yoga. I need to find a community of people that like to do acro yoga, and I need to go and start networking with them. Like, and if I mess it up in the beginning, okay, I'm new. They were all new at one point. Let me just continue. Let me talk to another person. The way I had to go through it. For example, when I was in London in my 20s, I had a really horrible accent in English. Single men just showed up in London. This is 27, uh, years ago. There is no Facebook. There's no social media. And in order to network, I found the concept of speed dating. I understood today that that was a genius move because if you mess up with the first five women, it's okay. You got 10 more M. Yeah. So I had to practice going through my fear of talking to a woman. Because I was in my teens. You cannot see me talking to women. I was always sweating, always afraid my. My accent, that this. That I'm not good enough. I would, like, judge myself. We all have that as human beings. There isn't one way of getting it done unless you. Again, you could Listen to Tony Robbins every single day and completely switch your mindset and believe you're an epic human being and go out and say, I am Gil, and this is why I'm great, and this is why I'm going to an event. And yes, that works. Positive thinking and, you know, pumping yourself up and listen to some motivational speakers before you walk into an event. Oh, yeah, that really, really works. But if you're not someone that wants to do all that, I created the 1, 2, 3 methodology, which is you see someone you want to talk to, count to three and start walking towards them. And as you walk towards them, compliment them in your head. Otherwise, if we see someone we want to talk to, the first thing we do is we start to think, what am I going to say to them? Are they going to like me? Do I look good? Do I smell good? Do I have good breath? Are something in my teeth? We start clinking so much in our heads. Uh, and it's usually not positive. It's usually either we're judging ourselves or in some cases, unfortunately, because we're humans, we judge them. You know, we're like, ah, ah, maybe they're too busy, or maybe they won't be interested in me. Like, why are you putting negativity on a situation that hasn't even happened? So the trick is, count one, two, three, start walking and compliment. And I did that. I remember coming up with it, and I had to use it right away. And I used it when I met Steven Seagal the first time, and I saw him in a hotel in Moscow. I saw him talking to this woman, and this big security guy is next to him, and I'm like. I see him and I'm like, oh, my God. Do I go and talk to him? I don't know. I'm like, waiting for a client, you know? So I go into like. I'm like, you're Gil Peter still. One, two, three, Guac. And as I'm starting to walk with him and everything kind of slowed down in slow motion, I see the security guy seeing me walking towards him, and I see a security guy taking three steps, kind of blocking me. Suddenly, he's the blocker. And that happens in a corporate world, you know? Suddenly there's someone like the assistant that picks up the phone and doesn't want to pass you on to the guy you want to talk to. You know, that's not always fair that that happens. And suddenly that person comes in and blocks me, and I'm still walking. And in my head, I'm like, I'm, um, trying to not be negative. I'm like, usually people will see a big, big guy like this. Okay, U turn like, go, go away. Clearly there's a block. But I'm like, no, I'm Gil. Peter Still Gil, keep on walking. And everything was slowing down so much. And at one point, I kind of got close. I'm talking about, like, a couple of meters away from him. And clearly I saw that he was gonna stop me physically. He would not. He would walk towards me again. And I did one of those moves, like a little cheeky move. Like, I acted like I was gonna go right, but I went left. I was like, uh, Steven, can I come and kind of talk to you? I did one of these moves, can I come and talk to you? Sort of thing. And he kind of waved me. Yeah, ah, come, come, come. And we had a little fun, little chat. And I ended up staying in touch with him in some ways. And today I'm in touch with him on WhatsApp. You know, over the years, he asked me a few years ago, I ended up in Dubai at, ah, dinner with him. He's like, hey, do you mind if I invite my son? And over dinner, he's like, hey, Gil, I really would love for you to mentor my son in business. I'm like, wow, big honor you have for sure. Let me help you out. So we'll all find ourselves in situations where we are afraid because of our culture and our past education, or lack of education and networking or lack of experience. The fun part is to know that networking is what's going to help us move forward. It's these moments that we will step out of our comfort zone. Because, you know, playing the piano the first time in front of an audience where you've just had a thousand hours of training, you will sound really bad. But I believe all pianists have done it. So if the pianists have done it and the chefs have done it, they've cooked some bad food because they're practicing. So if so many of these other industries have done it and all these professionals have done it, if I want to become not the best chef in the world, I want to become good enough that I can cook for my family, why can I not become better at networking, where I'm maybe a little bit better than my family and networking, or maybe maybe I'm a little bit better than my old friends, like, because I want to step out. Like, they're all still living in the same city and I want to step out, or they're all my Friends are now in the same company, and. And I want to step out of it. Like, I have that goal to kind of elevate myself. That means I need to take that leap of faith. That will be uncomfortable. And whether it's the 1, 2, 3 methodology or whether it's taking a buddy system with you that will give you the confidence, whether it's just doing the research on who's going to be the event and how can I talk to them? And these days, you could talk to GPT and say, hey, GPT, I'm going to this event. This is a guest list. Can you tell me who are the best three people that I should talk to that are most relevant to me, and what kind of conversations can I start with them? You know, you can use that today. You know, a couple of years ago, we couldn't.

Speaker B: Well, this is what I love the most about AI is it made everything so easy. I find it's an accelerator of manifestation because you don't have any of the excuses anymore. The how gets figured out pretty quickly. I, um, want to take the conversation to something you said earlier. And it was talking about the state of connections and how just showing up to people and saying like, hi, my name is Jason Mark Campbell, and is not good enough. You have to be bringing something to the table. You talked about. The 1, 2, 3 is like, okay, complimenting them. If you're doing your initial meeting some new people, I love that. But could you unpack more about what does it look like bringing value to the table? Because on the flip side, I have seen people that show up at networking event, and God forbid, I've definitely done it myself, that they'll come in and be like, hey, can I help you with anything? And it's almost like they're putting a burden on you when they're trying to help you. And it's, uh, like the wrong way of networking. You know what I mean?

Speaker A: So I do. And it's such a deep question here. So first of all, let's look at something as simple as, I'm asking for a friend. Yeah. And let's just say you're invited to a friend's house. Some cultures have been taught to come with something in their hands. I've been taught you go to someone's house, you bring something. In the past, it was a bottle of wine. Now, I don't touch alcohol. I'll bring a beautiful box of teas. I'll bring some flowers. I'll bring some fruits. I'll bring a cake. I'll bring Something I've been taught, come with something, bring something. So that's already something that if you look back, go back hundreds of years, we've all been taught you show up at some come, bring, come with more than just you. Second thing is you go to a really interesting event, A, ah, seminar, a conference, an expo. You've heard about this, like really cool mastermind. Most people show up alone. Why are you not telling anyone about this event? Why are you not coming? Plus one, why are you not sharing with your community? There's a really epic event. Who wants to come with me? I think it's going to be great. Let's go. That's bringing value to an event because the organizers worked really hard to maybe get to you, but they couldn't get to all of your friends. Most people don't come with people, they come alone just because they don't know, they're afraid. But hold on, if you come with others, it's actually a good thing. You're bringing value. You could play tag teams. You can actually introduce each other to different people. You can always take a break from new people and go talk to your friends. But don't do that for too long. People make that mistake. They come with a couple of friends and they stay with those friends the whole night. That's a mistake. But the best thing is to come in and know that, well, I'm actually, me coming in is not enough, but me coming in, adding value. Adding value by asking people good questions instead of talking about myself too much, being really curious and what kind of help people might need. It sounds like, hey, how can I help you? It's like instead of saying, what do you do? It's like, what do you focus on these days? Oh, wow, this is it sounds really inspiring. Uh, out of curiosity, what kind of help does your business need right now? So it's a lot easier if you ask people what help do you need? People don't feel so comfortable because they feel like they're helpless or they feel like, oh, now I'm going to owe you something. I need to tell, I need to be vulnerable and tell you what help I need. People don't always feel comfortable. It's like, what kind of clients does your business need? What kind of collaborators does your company looking for right now? It's a beautiful question to ask people. What direction is your company focused in right now? That's a nice way to tell. Allow someone to take you on a journey, showing them that you're interested. That's adding value. Oh, wow, you're doing that in that direction. One of my friends is doing something similar. Do you mind if I introduce you to them? Or like, wow, you know, I just spoke to this guy John a few minutes ago. He was telling me it's exactly what he's looking for. Wait, wait, wait. Like, hey, John, you're right. Can I connect you really quickly to Jason? I think there's something there that's adding value. And I started understanding this at a very early stage in my life when, you know, I understood that showing up in events alone was not enough. So I got involved with a lot of charity events where I was like, not only am I showing up at a charity event, but now I can give a little bit of money, I can invite someone. And then I became one of the organizers of these charity events, which, by the way, to all of you out there, being a volunteer, uh, at a charity event, ideal way to meet a good woman. Or vice versa, by the way, because what kind of people volunteer at charity events? They tend to be good people. It's a good filter, and that is a networking hack. You have to filter. If you're afraid of all networking, good luck to you. Go live in a cave. Go live in a monastery. You'll still need to. Even in a monastery, you still need to network with other monks. But choose, you know, who is the kind of people you can go and network with gardeners and go and network with, like, people in your industry, or go and network with other, you know, young parents. Like, when we became young parents, my. My first kid, I was looking for friends, which I didn't have, that had kids. And I realized that none of my friends had kids. So I was suddenly a new parent. I was like, none of my friends have kids. I need to step into a, uh, new network. I need to go to new events. And now I need to bring up conversations. I'm a father, so I need to look for more men. I was looking for more men to connect the bond with other fathers. And it was also with women. It was really nice to meet women that were mothers because suddenly, hey, we're both parents. There is no, like, there's boundaries. You know, sometimes you're networking with the opposite sex and they don't know, are we flirting? Are we not flirting? Are we single? Are we not single? The whole parent thing right away gave them, hey, he's a stable person. He's in a relationship, He's a father. This is good for networking. There's groundness there. So suddenly I was able to make new friends that were aligned, uh, with me a lot more. So, you know, when, when people are networking out there, I think what's most important is to always come back to what do I want to network for. So, you know, a good tip is before you walk into a networking event, ask yourself, who do I wish to meet at this event? And why not come up with a name literally, like we were talking about? Manifestation. This is the time to manifest. Yes, AI can help us manifest a lot more because we need to learn how to prompt. But what if we were able to prompt into the universe, into ourselves, and say, I would love to meet people that would inspire me a lot more. How to get my book published. I would love to meet someone that can help me understand how to get my funnels out there. I would love to meet someone that's in the fashion industry. Maybe you would give me some advice on how to get my brand out there. Like just speak openly. Now, whether people believe it or not, I believe in the law of manifestation. I believe because I've practiced it and I've shown people how quickly it really works. And I'm constantly proving to people that all you gotta do is speak out who you wish to meet and why. And if you want to make it, uh, exponentially more powerful and, you know, result oriented, tell people one of the greatest pickup lines I find at one point in events. Not as a first pickup line, but as a conversation development kind of tool. Out of curiosity, what kind of people do you want to meet at this event? And once they say, you say, I'm curious why that is such an epic conversation kind of. It either breaks the conversation. That's really interesting that you say that. Maybe I meet some people like this tonight. I'll make sure to introduce them to you. It's really good meeting you. And you disconnect in a very friendly way, but you're leaving an opportunity to come back. Or like, wow, I just met someone. And it also gives you an opportunity to introduce them to someone and then escape the conversation, which is adding massive value. I've just introduced you to someone. I'm adding value. I'm learning who you want to meet. I'm ready to add value to you. You were like, wow, this person is able to be valuable to me. I'm going to try my best to tell them who I want to meet. Asking them why helps you get them to the juiciness of what that person is up to now, because they can either say, I want more clients. Like, you don't just want more clients who do you want, like, tell me the kind of clients you want. Like, describe them a little bit. You know, you're going to be working with these people so you can get juiciness out of people, which is really beautiful. But you put yourself in a position where as soon as they've shared, you're also comfortable to share as well. It's interesting that you said you're looking for people in operations. That's not me. But, um, uh, maybe I'll meet someone like this tonight. I'll be happy to introduce you. You look like you're a much better networker than I am. If you meet anyone today that's really into tea, that would love to be in the tea industry. You know, I've got a movement called chati, and I'm looking for more people who are passionate about connecting with people and want to create networking opportunities over cups of tea. If you meet anyone like that, please bring the out there again. Just to remind you, my name is Gil. Remind me of your name. Most people forget people's names, and it's completely okay to ask people for their name again. It's beautiful. People appreciate. We forget people's names. They're humans. I forget people's names within seconds sometimes of them saying it, because we're a group of people, and I'll be so focused on what they're going to say to me on their body language that I sometimes forget their names. And asking for their name again before you leave is adding massive value, because the person feels that you've just been present with them, and I think that's value. And of course, it comes in all ways. You can always like. I wanted to add value to, uh, a Tony Robbins event. So the first time I went to a Tony Robbins event, I came with 25 people with me. I just brought people. And then the second time was 200 people. And then I grew, and that business became it. Over a thousand people came with me with my company. Every time I went to a Tony Robbins event, that's next level. You can add value by creating businesses around adding value to the network. But today, we're keeping it simple.

Speaker B: Well, we have an entire episode about networking. So, guys, go through the history. Look for Gil Petersill. We have a conversation around masterminds and about networking that we can go in even deeper. I kind of want to lean into a passion you're into now. So we've covered a lot today, and, oh, my God, time's, uh, been flying, and there's a lot of value. We've covered but the T movement, that's a really special thing that you've been starting to put forward. I know you're having communities that are doing meetups. They're doing the networking. They're doing it over T. Can you tell us more about this initiative and what should people know about? Because I have a feeling a lot of this audience want to get into networking with the right communities. And if they're not going to a charity event, I think going for a tea event is probably the next best thing.

Speaker A: Yeah, I love it. Because of a Tony Robbins challenge that I got 13 years ago, I took 10 days with no alcohol. 10 days became 100 days, 100 days became over 10 years. And without alcohol, uh, networking events became a little bit challenging in the beginning because people would question, why are you not drinking? What's wrong with you? In some situation, like, what's wrong with me? I just don't want to drink tonight. And then people started like, I'm not drinking. And I had to come up with creative ideas on how to have a drink and add lemon and mint so it looks like an alcoholic drink so that they feel comfortable. Or I would get a wine glass with cranberry juice so they would feel comfortable. Because Sasalu has programmed us that alcohol connects us. Opening a bottle of wine and talking about the vineyard and the ear connects us, which it does in a way, because it could be ceremonially. And what's happened to me during those few years, I just found kombucha and I found juices, but I never really got into tea. When I came to Bali, I was invited to a tea ceremony by a local friend here. And I was like, there's something quite magical about what's happening. Because as soon as he started preparing the tea, everyone stopped talking. And I was like, hold on. Usually, like, to get people's attention, you need to, like, hey, hey, attention. Ding, ding, ding. Like, no, no. He just started preparing the tea, and everyone started looking. So right away, as someone who's been studying the arts and sciences of human networking, I became very aware where presence was a result of him preparing the tea. So that was like, wow, okay. And then I was like, okay, I want to go to a couple of more of these. And then I learned that a lot of the tea masters are able to serve tea in such magical ways, but they're not always very good at facilitating. And I was told by one of my tea masters, one of my teachers, that if I sit to the left of the tea master or to the right, I can take On a responsibility in this session. So I used to sit on the left and that person would serve tea and I would facilitate, like one of my masterminds or. But over a cup of tea. So there's no food, there's nothing on the table. Cups of tea. Then I was like, okay, what's the next level? What is it? Like, where can this take us? And I spent the last two years, uh, like basically two and a half years ago. I sat with a group of people over a few weeks and I was like, guys, the downloads I'm getting is that I need to leave everything I'm doing in my life. I need to let go of my businesses. I need to change something. And tea needs to become a lot more important in my life. What do you mean, tea? Like, uh, are you going through a midlife crisis? Seriously? My parents are certain that I went through a midlife crisis. They still think I am. It's like, what do you mean, tea? Just tea in a teacup or a tea bag? Like, no, no, no, no, no, no. There's a different way of serving tea that's higher quality tea, that's more of a, uh, maybe high vibration organic tea. Something that has maybe a flower, maybe a herb, an infusion doesn't always have to be black or green tea or pu? E. There's a lot of combinations and like, there's a lot there. And then when I started studying it, I was like, okay, well, tea is 5,000 plus years old. Every single country in the world has a tea history. Every. Even the biggest, like the Italians that are all into, like, their coffees. No, no, Italy has a very, very unique tea history. So every country has a tea history going back to our childhood. I don't know about you, but, like, my grandmother would usually serve me tea if I was not feeling well. So what does that mean? Tea was there as comforting. Where did that go? So tea was all about slowing down. Tea was about warming up if it was cold outside. So clearly in our generation, still tea was kind of there, but then it was lost in our grandparents. Tea was still there, you know? And then I started searching specific cultures where tea came from. I was like, whoa. Tea has been used thousands of years ago to resolve war, to reserve conflict, where warriors would step into the tea house, but they would not, uh, be allowed to bring their weapons. The armor and the swords would be left outside of the tea house. They would come in and would pacify the communication by having tea. There's a ceremony there. So I was like, hold on. I like that tea houses, most of them at least, don't allow a phone on the tea table. A phone is a weapon, big weapon, good and bad. It's a distraction. Putting a phone on the table facing up. And every time I'm talking to you, if it rings, I, uh, look at it. That's not presence. That's not good. So I was like, whoa. I like, this is. There's clearly something there. But wait, not everybody's into ceremonies. It's too much for people. It's like, I don't want to sit down for one, two, three hours and have a ceremony. And it's all serious. And like, I want to talk a little bit. Some ceremonies all in kite. So cha. Tea was created. Cha means tea for billions of people. Tea means tea for billions of people. And it's interesting that for another billions of people, like in India, Middle east, even Russia, it's chai cha ay. Which I believe was somehow connected where it's like tea. For me, it's not just cha I. It's chai. So it means that there is a history of tea that has helped us as humanity, to connect deeply. It's still around in some countries in the world. If you show up in China, most places in Asia, in a business meeting and someone's home, first thing they do is they'll serve you tea in a ceremonial way, not in a cheap tea bag. And they leave the tea bag in the tea. And it's crap. Low vibe, low quality, full of chemicals. Tea with a tea bag that's full of microplastics. They'll serve you tea that's been. That's clean. So there is something there. I'm like, wait, billions of people are using it in the west. We've completely lost it. Corporations have lost the tea. It's all about tea bags, all about black and green tea. So I took a year. I wrote down 18 different revenue models in the world of tea. I didn't travel at all. I just networked like crazy with the biggest organization in the world to learn. The farmers, the association, the educational bodies. I wanted to see what is there. I fell in love with the whole industry. I created seven different businesses. I invested my own money, built businesses, saw how can I make money from tea tourism or. Or tea education or tea concierge. You have a birthday party. I'll send a tea master to your house. Wow, he's got a wedding. We can create a whole tea area there. Wow, you got a big crypto event. Let me create a tea salon and that like I created all these businesses. Don't do that at home, by the way. It's a big mistake to create seven businesses at the same time. And you're an entrepreneur. That's all over the place, especially if you're in Ubud. In Bali, it didn't work out the way I was hoping because I was the driver entrepreneur, and a lot of people around me, we're a little bit more, you know, in the cloud. Beautiful people who love tea. They love tea, but they're not in to impact the world. I'm like, guys, I'm not trying to sell tea. I'm not selling tea here. And like, let's sell tea. I'm like, no, no, no. There's enough tea out there. Like, let's open a tea house. I'm like, no, no, there's enough tea houses. Tea houses are not getting enough business. We can help them. The teas. There's great teas. Let's help them. They're like, what are you trying to do? And I. I had to go through a lot of iteration. It was not easy for me. I lost my initial co founders within three months. They're like, no, Gil, we want to open my own tea house, and I want to sell my own tea. I don't want to impact the world. I'm like, no, no, no. This is, for me, on a global level. I want to help humanity connect with more unity into community, to create a lot more prosperity. And there's a lot of words that end with T and create a lot more opportunity. And, you know, if you're a singer out there, a rapper, please help me create some interesting songs about this. So basically, where Chati is today is two main vehicles that we're using to bring this to the world. One is Chati social infusions. And we will show up in anything from a Davos, uh, to a Tony Robbins event, to a crypto event, to a family office event, to a wedding, to a birthday party. And we'll create any level of a T space. Any level. You got $500 budget, you have $10,000 budget. We can create an epic space. Sitting down, standing up, very, very unique. And because I come from the hospitality background, catering background, events background, I love doing that. And the other side is the education. I have a mission now for the next three years. I want to be able to educate 1 million additional people to learn how to serve tea professionally. So tea barista, uh, tea sommelier, tea master. We've even created the tea angels. Yeah, Tea angel doesn't have to be a professional, but that it's that person that wants to host or uh, they want to be a co host. And the future of communities is all about people who know how to host with experience. Don't just invite people to your house, give them food and drinks and hope for the best. Don't just come up with an event. And here's the program and here are the speakers and here's a lunch break. Good luck networking. That doesn't work anymore. That's over. That's behind us. That's like 90s and 2000 now. It's about creating experiences that are somehow connected to wellness. They need to be healthy. So we used to have. Sure. Like a wine tasting or like a vodka tasting. Sure. Old. I've done that in the past. Now you can go to tea tastings. And because we're drinking a high vibe Herb And I find personally, again, it's not for everyone, but it really connects us on a quantum level where I've taken it so far where with my coaching clients, I'm still coaching on strategy, on, you know, if people want to cross pollinate within networks or like Gil, I want to take my business to that country. I'll give them the steps, I'll give them the introductions. I'll also help them follow up. But now I'm like, if we're going to talk about this, let me send you some tea. And every time we meet up, I want us to drink the same tea together. People don't understand how well this works. I'm loving where it's going. In September time, I'm going to open things up again for some fundraising because giving all the money myself is not sustainable. Now over the next three months, I want to find some amazing co founders, people that understand that connecting humanity together needs vehicles. And it's not wine anymore. And we don't have to meet over food. Food distracts us a lot. We need something between us. It really helps. We need a vehicle. We need this kind of mechanism. And because of history, and history repeats itself, I believe we're now stepping into the T renaissance. It's this new era of connectivity. I see myself as one of the pioneers that's bringing in this new era of hospitality. Nice.

Speaker C: Uh,

Speaker B: Gil? Well, I'll be a champion for it. I definitely think that this is something that I've been trying to find more social events. And as someone who doesn't drink as well, I do see that this is a powerful vehicle that people could be using, I can be using. And it's very exciting to see. I am very hopeful for the future. You've mentioned this and I'll reinforce the negative trends around alcohol have been across the board when I stopped drinking and I remember at the beginning having the same awkward moments of like oh no, I'm not an alcoholic. It's just I stopped drinking and it's awkward and then people feel uncomfortable. That's changing. And the newest generation are drinking a lot less and creating that, that middle plays between work and personal life. Tea places sounds awesome. I'm excited you're bringing that forward. And for anybody who's curious to be a champion, an angel wants to get more involved with that or even with you and garage or with you personally. What are the best ways for them to connect with you?

Speaker A: Yeah, um, it's easy because I'm the only gilpeter still in the world and you know, and right now it's more about people that want to see this happening maybe in their cities and their countries. We, we want to make it accessible for people that can host so that if in the future there's another problem in the world. I'm not going to call it a pandemic or a crisis but another problem in the world. And we need to stay more local, we need to fly less, we need to connect more locally. We don't need big budgets, we don't need big events. It's something as simple as tea. So I want people to reach out to uh, us people can find Chati, Chatti Club or Chati Ventures. It's easy to find me. It's all over my social media and you know, I understood that in order for me to fulfill this big mission of getting a million more people to serve tea and basically competing with coffee because alcohol is way, way more advanced because it's expensive and it's been around for a long time and people believe that it is the glue. Coffee picked up the trend very, very well. Even though tea is still the second most drank liquid in the world. Tea has been seen in the last two decades as cheap and it could very accessible. So it doesn't have to be expensive or it doesn't have to be luxurious. But we now serve tea, cold pressed tea in a champagne glass and it looks very, very beautiful. We'll serve tea in very, very beautiful ways or it could be flower infusions to change people's states of mind. So I'm looking for collaborators at all levels, especially people that want to come into the management. And that's exactly why I joined Human Garage because I understood that the movements in the world that are bringing people together need this glue. Like if you go to the average yoga class, people show up five minutes before and they leave within five minutes after. But people go to class to find community. And if you look at this is all across the board that people are showing, uh, places because they want community. But there's too much of a program. There's too much. Or you show up at some of these events and the music is too loud. I'm like, no, we showed up there to meet friends, to connect this community. But you've been programmed to give us speaker, speaker, speaker, speaker or music, music, loud music. And we're like, okay, we'll listen to music. Okay, listen to speakers and then okay, quickly networking break with lunch. Go quickly eat and quickly talk to people. And like it's not there. Satish slows us down. And that's all people need these days, really. T and human garage for me was an ideal, perfect, life changing opportunity for me because I wanted to be healthy. But what they're doing in the world is perfect alignment on values. One, to teach quantum networking. But two, I could see that every good coach in the world that's facilitating a class could create their own community by doing something as simple as serving tea before and after the class. People will come in early, a little bit, you'll ground them. People put their phones away. They're not on their phone until one minute before the class, which is very common. Every phone's away, people connecting quickly share maybe why you're here today. Quickly introduce yourself, do the class. Hey, after class, whoever wants to, we're going to stay for another 30 minutes and have a cup of tea, get to know each other a little bit. Suddenly community is built. And for me, that is the easiest solution and gift that I can give to the world to help them understand that the ideal tool and vehicle for community. The glue is tea.

Speaker B: Well, I love it. I think we need to have some conversation after the show about potential collaborations already. I love everything you're getting involved with. It seems to be all aligned and you know, we've known each other for what, like 10 years now and it seems like you're doing exactly what you are meant to do and it's beautiful to see. I want to see more tea happen. I am a coffee man, but I also started drinking premium tea because I think for everything there's levels to this. Gil, thank you so much for coming on the show and sharing. It's always a pleasure to reconnect. For everybody tuning in, I hope that this has given you an opportunity to slow down, to perhaps look into tea yourself, see how it can be the key to bring you back into community. Stop rushing through every moment in life, because I think probably one of the biggest reason we're feeling disconnected is because we're rushing through every step. And I think whether that's tea, whether that's working on a fascia, or taking a moment to listen to this podcast, at least slowing down might be the way to reconnect you and find your own community. There's tons of nuggets to the conversation, so thank you for sharing everything and for everybody else, we're going to put some links for you to connect with Gil and do more in the process.

Speaker A: Let's chat soon. Very simple, just sip into presence.

Speaker B: Thank you for listening to the Jason Mark Campbell Business Podcast. And of course, keep selling with love.

Speaker C: When you're a maintenance engineer in a beverage manufacturing plant, you keep production lines moving and quality on track because there is no room for slowdowns. With Grainger's vast selection of high quality motors, sensors, belts and hard to find parts, you can get what you need fast and all in one place, so nothing gets in the way of getting the job done. Call 1-800-GRAINGER Click grainger.com or just stop by Grainger for the ones who get it done.