
The HR Impact Show · 2026-01-08 · 26 min
Key moments - from our scoring
Substance score
46 / 100
Five dimensions, 20 points each
Li Lian Tan brings a finance background and cross-industry experience (KPMG, SATS, CDL, Mediacorp) to reimagine HR as a profit centre and strategic asset. At Mediacorp, Singapore's largest media network, she addresses a core challenge: aligning creative talent (who thrive on freedom and experimentation) with corporate teams (who value structure and process) under one culture. Her solution centres on a unifying purpose - "create, connect, and inspire" - combined with flexibility frameworks that allow different work styles within shared values. During COVID, she transformed SATS' HR into a revenue-generating function through the SATS Academy, reskilling 4,000 workers who might have been retrenched and achieving 81% engagement scores. At Mediacorp, she's driven 80% employee pride through outcomes-focused hybrid work, authentic "Mediacorp Unfiltered" town halls replacing one-way communication, and cross-platform upskilling to address digital convergence and AI integration. She also leads Career Forward, a national platform for career transitions. Her advice centres on trust as infrastructure, continuous learning, and living authenticity - especially as media grapples with audience platform fluidity and AI-driven storytelling.
Mediacorp anchors both groups to a shared purpose - 'create, connect, and inspire' - then designs flexibility frameworks that allow creatives freedom for experimentation while corporate teams maintain structure and process, all within common values.
Yes; Li Lian Tan demonstrated this at SATS by launching the SATS Academy during COVID to reskill 4,000 workers facing retrenchment, generating revenue that covered their wages while avoiding layoffs and earning nine Singapore HR Awards.
Authentic, two-way dialogue through hybrid town halls (like Mediacorp Unfiltered) that blend virtual and in-person formats works better than traditional one-way PowerPoint briefings; leaders showing vulnerability and acting on feedback makes culture real.
Invest in continuous learning across cross-platform digital fluency, responsible and creative use of AI and data-driven storytelling, and career mobility so employees embrace change with curiosity and see transitions as growth, not setbacks.
Clarity of purpose lived daily (employees see how their work touches audiences and shapes Singapore's story), authenticity from leaders, and employees seeing their direct impact - pride cannot be manufactured but flows from these elements.
Our reviewer’s read on each dimension, with quotes from the episode.
The SATS COVID story - using the tarmac as a training centre, launching an academy that made HR a literal profit centre - is genuinely interesting. But the bulk of the episode is padded with widely-circulated HR mantras about purpose, trust, and flexibility, with little non-obvious analysis per minute.
I did launch a SATS academy with the government support. So I brought in profits, turning the HR departments into a profit centre, where we support these 4,000 workers who are supposed to be retrenched.
flexibility without connection can quickly become isolation
The HR-as-profit-centre execution at SATS is a concrete, less-told story, but most of the conceptual framing - purpose-driven culture, outcomes not optics, trust-based flexibility - is thoroughly conventional HR discourse. The Brene Brown recommendation and 'people first, purpose always' tagline are textbook thought-leader staples.
flexibility is not the future of work, it's the foundation of how we work today
You can't manufacture pride. It comes from authenticity, purpose, and people seeing their impact.
Li Lian Tan is a genuine CHRO practitioner with a multi-industry track record and a credible crisis-management story from SATS; she is not a career podcast guest. However, her seniority is mid-market national-company level, and much of her commentary defaults to polished corporate messaging rather than deep operational detail.
I persuaded the board and the senior leadership team to allow me to try something different. And that was to invest in our people rather than letting them go.
our employee engagement score climbed to 81% in 2020, right in the middle of the crisis
A handful of concrete data points exist - 4,000 workers, 81% engagement, nine HR awards, eight-in-ten pride score - but they are not contextualised with baselines, costs, timelines, or revenue figures. The majority of the episode is abstract framing with no named programmes beyond Career Forward and Mediacorp Unfiltered.
these 4,000 workers who are supposed to be retrenched. With the profits that we brought in, we actually paid for their wages.
eight out of employees within Mediacorp are proud to work for the organisation
The host discloses upfront that Mediacorp is a paying client, and that commercial relationship is evident throughout: questions are uniformly affirming, no claim is challenged, and follow-ups largely restate the guest's own words. Rapid-fire questions at the end are generic podcast boilerplate with zero probing depth.
I love that, right. It's not storm, but dancing in the rain and that's a very concrete example
Amazing.
Computed from the transcript - who did the talking, and the words that came up most.
Lilian Tan is the Chief Human Resources Officer at Mediacorp, where she leads the organisation’s people strategy, culture transformation, and workforce development across Singapore’s largest national media network.She is a seasoned HR leader with over 20 years of experience across industries including real estate, aviation, technology, telecommunications, and professional services. Lilian began her career at Singapore Telecommunications and went on to hold senior leadership roles at KPMG Consulting, BearingPoint, SATS Ltd., and City Developments Limited. Prior to joining Mediacorp, she founded Mustard Seed Consulting Group, advising organisations on human capital transformation. She is also a Tripartite Mediation Advisor and sits on The Salvation Army’s National Advisory Board. Li Lian Tan, CHRO of Mediacorp, shares her journey on how HR can transition from a cost centre to a strategic business driver, the significance of a people-first and purpose-driven culture, and the nuances of building connection and trust within diverse teams. The conversation delves into how Mediacorp approaches flexibility as a strategic enabler, transforming workplace dynamics post-pandemic.
Transcribed and scored by The B2B Podcast Index.
Li Lian Tan: At Mediacorp, the creative and the corporate, both are equally vital to who we are as a national media network. For me, the starting point is to recognise that while people may work in very different domains, from content production, to finance, from digital innovation to sales, everyone is ultimately driven by the same purpose. To create, connect, and inspire. That shared purpose is the culture glue that hold us together.
So when it comes to people strategy, we design it around flexibility and inclusion. We recognise that creative talent thrives on freedom, experimentation and expressions, while corporate teams value structure, clarity, and process. So rather than imposing a one size fit all model, we focus on creating frameworks that allows for flexibility within a common set of values. Dorothy Yiu: Welcome to the HR Impact Show, where we have honest conversations with global HR leaders about building great workplaces all around the world.
I'm your host, Dorothy Yiu, CEO, and co-founder of EngageRocket. EngageRocket is a global HR technology and advisory company that helps organisations collect and analyse employee feedback from hire to retire. Dorothy Yiu: Today we are joined by Li Lian Tan. She's the CHRO of Mediacorp, Singapore's largest media network.
She's an award-winning HR leader, and we're excited to dive into her journey and to understand how she drives change through times of transformation. Welcome to the show, Li Lian. Very happy to have you here with us. Dorothy Yiu: Of course, our paths have crossed a couple of times.
Besides the fact that Mediacorp is a valued client, this is also the second time I'm interviewing you. I think the last time I interviewed you was couple of years ago for our HR Outlook report, and I truly enjoyed that conversation, so I'm sure this will be a fabulous one as well. Dorothy Yiu: For our listeners who may not be as familiar with you, tell us more about your journey. Li Lian Tan: For those who don't know me, I'm Li Lian Tan, currently the Chief Human Resources Officer at Mediacorp.
My journey into HR wasn't a straight path. I actually graduated with a finance degree, beginning my career as a financial analyst. Li Lian Tan: Very early on, I realised that I could work with numbers but I didn't want to spend my entire career doing just that. What truly inspired me was understanding people, resolving their challenges building teams and helping others grow.
That turning point came when I joined KPMG consulting, where the firm gave me the opportunity to switch into human capital consulting. Li Lian Tan: That was when I discovered my true passion, shaping organisations through people. From that moment, I knew HR was where I wanted to make a real impact. One of the most defining chapters of my career in SATS, particularly during the COVID-19 pandemic, the aviation and the food services sectors were among the hardest hit.
Li Lian Tan: And we faced the very real possibility of having to retrench thousands of employees. Instead of accepting that outcome, I persuaded the board and the senior leadership team to allow me to try something different. And that was to invest in our people rather than letting them go. Li Lian Tan: I always remember this quote that I love during that period of time.
It is a quote by Vivian Greene. She said that life is not just about waiting for the storm to pass, but learning to dance in the rain. So that really resonated with me during that moment. Li Lian Tan: And I told myself that while I have always had this dream of transforming the HR department into a profit centre, and I thought that would be that moment.
We can always leverage on a crisis and turn it into an opportunity. So It was during that period, where COVID hit our shore, I did launch a SATS academy with the government support. So I brought in profits, turning the HR departments into a profit centre, where we support these 4,000 workers who are supposed to be retrenched. With the profits that we brought in, we actually paid for their wages.
Li Lian Tan: So during those days, if you had the opportunity to come into the airport, you would be wondering why, where there's no flights, no passengers at the airport, there were many moving vehicles at the tarmac area. And that was because we had transformed the tarmac area into our training centre where our workers were learning to drive the different vehicles. Li Lian Tan: So we basically did a lot of multi-skilling during that time. And with the support of Changi Airport Group, they allow us to use their gate hold room, where we conducted training to the workers, multi-skilling them, and retraining them.
So that was those moments. Dorothy Yiu: I love that, right. It's not storm, but dancing in the rain and that's a very concrete example from your experience. In the crisis you can actually turn things around, actually make it a profit centre for the organisation.
Were there other outcomes that you also saw through that initiative that you initiated at SATS? Li Lian Tan: Yeah. First of all, for me that was truly a dream fulfilled. As a finance and accountancy graduate, I always believe that HR is not just a cost centre.
When done right, HR can be a strategic driver of business value, innovation, and resilience. Li Lian Tan: So the results were deeply rewarding. Our employee engagement score climbed to 81% in 2020, right in the middle of the crisis. And all people remain motivated and committed.
And these efforts were later recognised with nine awards at the Singapore HR Awards in 2021, celebrating our human capital transformation and workforce agility. Dorothy Yiu: Amazing. We just launched our Workplace of the Future Report, and one of the key patterns that organisation needs to work towards is experiential connection, right? And I believe these kind of connection that they have built, instead of retrenching me, you give me an opportunity to contribute, will stay with employees for really long time.
Dorothy Yiu: So you mentioned your experience in SATS, you mentioned your experience in consulting. I believe you were also in real estate, with CDL and then now with Mediacorp, a lot of Singapore darlings and varied industries as well. But across all these different industries, was there anything that stayed constant for you? Li Lian Tan: That's a lovely way to put it, Dorothy.
I've been truly very fortunate to work across such iconic Singapore brands, each with a strong sense of purpose. If I had to distill one value or mindset that stay constant through all the transition from consulting to real estate, aviation, food, technology, telecommunications, and now media, it would be people first and purpose always. Dorothy Yiu: Purpose is the new profit, something that I've just learned last Friday. So alongside your corporate roles, you also play many other roles outside.
For example, you've also been a founder, you're board advisor, you're also a tripartite mediation advisor. So across all these different experiences, how has that shaped you in your leadership journey? Li Lian Tan: That's a great question. And I would say those different experiences outside the corporate world have really shaped how I lead, especially during times of transformation.
When you've been a founder, you develop a strong sense of ownership, resourcefulness. And as an owner or a founder, you learn to connect every decision back to purpose and outcomes. And outcomes would be revenues, profits, where you can support people who work hard for you. You can't hide behind processes.
You have to act fast, think creatively and stay close to your people, that mindset has stayed with me through my corporate journey. I try to lead like an owner and not just a function head. It's only when you own the job, right? Where you feel that you are an owner, maybe not a business that you own, working in a corporate world for an organisation.
If you feel that you are an owner, then you know, your mindset and the way you carry yourself will be very different. Serving as a board advisor has given me a different lens, it is about stepping back from the day to day and looking at the bigger picture. Li Lian Tan: The long term sustainability of both people and the businesses. And it has taught me to balance empathy with enterprise, to make people decisions that are both compassionate and commercially sound.
So that would be the role of a board of director for me. Li Lian Tan: And my role as a tripartite mediation advisor has been humbling. It reminds me that at the end of the day, every business challenge has a human dimension. When we manage transformation, whether restructuring, job redesign or re-skilling, it's not just a strategy as assigned, it is about fairness, trust, and dignity at work.
The one board level question I often ask myself as a CHRO is this: Li Lian Tan: are we building an organisation that will still be relevant and trusted five years from now? That questions keep me focused, not just on immediate KPIs, but on culture, leadership, and capability, the things that truly sustain a company through disruption. It pushes me and my team to think beyond today. To anticipate what our people in our business will need next.
Dorothy Yiu: Such an important question to ask, isn't it? To always make sure you don't lose sight of the big picture and to keep your vision forward because it's so easy for us to get trapped into just thinking about the immediate priorities, especially through a crisis situation but to always keep your eyes forward in the next five years, will this be what we need is a great question to ask. I wanna double click onto the culture within Mediacorp, obviously there's a complexity.
Within Mediacorp itself, there are many different roles. Singapore's largest media company, there's obviously the creatives, right? Dorothy Yiu: The artists, many creative people, but there's also the corporate teams. So Li Lian, tell us more about how do you shape people's strategy that can speak to both groups of people while also unifying the culture.
Li Lian Tan: At Mediacorp, the creative and the corporate, both are equally vital to who we are as a national media network. For me, the starting point is to recognise that while people may work in very different domains, from content production, to finance, from digital innovation to sales, everyone is ultimately driven by the same purpose. To create, connect, and inspire. Li Lian Tan: So what do I mean by that?
We basically create content and we connect and inspire our audiences in Singapore every day. That shared purpose is the culture glue that hold us together. So when it comes to people strategy, we design it around flexibility and inclusion. We recognise that creative talent thrives on freedom, experimentation and expressions, while corporate teams value structure, clarity, and process.
So rather than imposing a one size fit all model, we focus on creating frameworks that allows for flexibility within a common set of values. That's why we are driven by this purpose, which is to create, connect, and inspire our audience. Dorothy Yiu: I love that in just our first 10 minutes of conversation, you've always anchored it back to purpose of the organisation being such an important role, and as well as values. A hundred percent resonate with it.
Now you've also described that remote and hybrid work has been one of the most transformational forces in the workplace. Dorothy Yiu: So tell us more about the ways of work is being done within Mediacorp now. Especially against a backdrop where many organisations are trying to revert back to, I guess less flexibility. And how have you used flexibility as a benefit or maybe even a long-term strategy for Mediacorp?
Li Lian Tan: I've always believed that flexibility is no longer just a benefit. It's a business strategy. The pandemic accelerated remote and hybrid work, right? We all know, but the real transformation is how it is shaping our understanding of performance, engagement and trust.
At Mediacorp, flexibility isn't about where you work. Li Lian Tan: It's about how you deliver value. We focus on outcomes, not optics. Whether you are a producer working on a drama shoot, a journalist in the newsroom or part of a corporate team, what matters most is the impact of your work and not the number of hours spent at your desk.
Li Lian Tan: We've moved towards what I call a trust-based culture, one where leaders are empowered to make decisions for their teams and employees are trusted to manage their time and energy responsibly. At the same time, flexibility is also about support and connection. We've built structures around wellbeing, communication and learning to keep people engaged and connected because flexibility without connection can quickly become isolation, right? So for us, flexibility isn't just about convenience.
It's a strategy enabler of performance, inclusion and engagement. It allows us to tap into a wider range of talent, support diverse life stages, and ultimately build a more resilient and future ready workforce. So the way I see it, flexibility is not the future of work, it's the foundation of how we work today. Dorothy Yiu: There's one word that you talked about.
Connection, right? Connection is the foundation of also another, what they brought up, trust. Dorothy Yiu: How do you build connection at scale? Mediacorp has thousands of employees, and I'm privileged to also know that Mediacorp has a lot of many different communication channels.
So tell us more about what are some of the approaches that you have put in place to build connection at scale, and maybe give our audience a tip on which one has worked best for you. Li Lian Tan: That's a great question. Because real connection at scale is one of the hardest thing to get right. And especially in a company as diverse as Mediacorp.
We have journalists, producers, engineers, marketers and people who think and work in very different ways. And what I've learned is that connection doesn't come from polish messaging. It comes from authenticity and access. Li Lian Tan: People want to hear directly from leaders.
Not in a scripted way but in an honest two-way dialogue. Our hybrid town halls, which is Mediacorp Unfiltered, have worked surprisingly well. We used to think connection could only happen in person, but we've learned that virtual and in-person formats can compliment each other. While we encourage everyone to attend town hall to connect with each other in person, we also offer a virtual option for those who are unable to physically attend town hall due to work.
This has allowed more people across functions and sites the chance to participate in these town halls. As for what we have retired, I would say some of the more traditional one-way communication channels, the days of long PowerPoint briefings and corporate updates with little dialogue are over. People don't want to be spoken to. They want to be heard, involved, and inspired.
So ultimately, what connects people isn't the platform. It is the human tone behind it. Li Lian Tan: So when leaders show vulnerability listen sincerely and act on feedback, that's when culture becomes real and not just words on a wall. Dorothy Yiu: I guess then there's no surprise to reveal this statistic from your recent engagement survey, that eight out of employees within Mediacorp are proud to work for the organisation.
I think that's a amazing achievement. And it's also honestly above benchmarks, from what we have seen. What do you think moved the needle? Based on everything I've heard, I'm not surprised, but anything else that you think moved the needle for Mediacorp to achieve this outcome?
Dorothy Yiu: And what advice you have to give for any HR leaders that's listening to this podcast, that wants to build that kind of pride within the organisation. Li Lian Tan: That result was really encouraging for us. When eight in ten employees say that they're proud to be part of Mediacorp, it shows that people feel connected to something bigger than themselves. Li Lian Tan: I think what's moved the needle is our clarity of purpose and the way we live it everyday.
Li Lian Tan: Whether you are a journalist, a producer, an engineer, everyone can see how their work touches audiences and shapes Singapore story. That creates real meaning. If I had one piece of advice for HR leaders, it would be this. Li Lian Tan: You can't manufacture pride.
It comes from authenticity, purpose, and people seeing their impact. When that happens, engagement takes care of itself. Dorothy Yiu: That drives performance and retention as well. Okay.
I'm gonna turn the lens forward to look into the future. The media industry obviously has been, disrupted over the years with many new platforms. Dorothy Yiu: The audience taste preferences may have changed. So what are some of the trends within the media industry specifically that's top of mind for you, and how are you preparing the workforce for it?
Li Lian Tan: The media industry is evolving rapidly as you have rightly put it. And as a CHRO, the top three trends that are top of mind for me would be digital convergence, AI and workforce adaptability. Audiences now move fluidly across platforms. Li Lian Tan: So we're helping our people to do the same.
Building cross-platform skills and digital fluency, so teams can create and collaborate seamlessly across TV, digital, and social. The second big shift is AI and data-driven storytelling. We are upskilling our teams to use technology responsibly and creatively, blending human intuition with data to make content more engaging and relevant. Li Lian Tan: And finally, adaptability and purpose.
Today's workforce want meaning and growth, not just a job. So we are investing in continuous learning, leadership development and career mobility, giving people the skills and confidence to thrive as the industry transforms. At the heart of it, preparing our workforce is about helping them embrace change with curiosity and courage. That's how we'll stay ahead.
Dorothy Yiu: I also wanna ask you about Mediacorp's involvement in Career Forward. So that's a major national platform to help people navigate career transitions. What impact does Mediacorp aim to achieve through this platform? Li Lian Tan: Career Forward is something I am personally very proud of because it reflects what Mediacorp stands for as both an employer and a national media network.
Li Lian Tan: The idea began with a simple belief that career development should not be confined within company walls. Li Lian Tan: In a world that is constantly changing, people need access to guidance, stories, and learning that help them grow wherever they are in their journey. We saw an opportunity to use our reach and storytelling strength to make career conversations more open and relatable. By partnering with government agencies, employers and experts, Career Forward became a national platform that brings together resources, workshops, and inspiring stories of career transitions.
Our involvement goes beyond content. Li Lian Tan: Okay. We want to shape mindsets about lifelong learning and resilience to show that career pivots are not setbacks, but growth opportunities. The impact we hope to create is both practical and emotional.
We want people to feel supported, confident about navigating change and to see that learning and reinvention can happen at any age and stage. Li Lian Tan: At the end of the day, Career Forward is about empowering Singaporeans to take ownership of their own career journeys, and we are honoured to play a part in that transformation. Dorothy Yiu: That makes so much sense, Mediacorps would tap into your reach as well as your storytelling strength because storytelling makes people believe, and when they believe it turns into action, and action then can turn into a reality for them.
Dorothy Yiu: It's great to hear that Mediacorp is actually very involved in this. I gonna ask you a question that we ask all of our podcast guests, which is, when you think about the ideal workplace of the future, what does it look like to you? Li Lian Tan: The ideal workplace of the future is one that is human, flexible, and purpose driven. Li Lian Tan: It is a place where people feel trusted to do their best work, supported to keep learning and connected to a shared sense of purpose.
To get there, organisations need to focus on three things. First, build a culture of trust, where flexibility is seen as a driver of performance. Second, invest in continuous learning so employee can adapt as roles evolve. Li Lian Tan: And third, live with empathy and authenticity because technology may shape the future of work, but it is people who will define it.
Dorothy Yiu: Yes, absolutely. Trust and psychological safety are no longer soft topics, right? They're actual infrastructure, just as important as system and processes to help us drive change. Dorothy Yiu: If you were to offer HR leaders any advice to, shaping this workplace of the future, what would it be?
Li Lian Tan: I would say focus on building trust. When people feel trusted, they bring their best ideas, energy and creativity to work. Technology and strategy will keep evolving, but trust is what truly shapes a resilient and forward looking work. Dorothy Yiu: Couldn't agree more.
Okay, so now I'm gonna move to a fun part of our podcast as we are ending. I'm gonna ask you a couple of rapid fire question, Li Lian. So very first one, what's one misconception about HR that you still find yourself correcting? Li Lian Tan: That HR is just about policies.
In reality, HR is about shaping culture, enabling performance, and driving business strategy. Dorothy Yiu: And in your experience in SATS maybe even creating profits for the organisation. What's the most overrated HR buzzword right now? Li Lian Tan: Probably future ready.
It is important. But it has become a catch phrase. What truly matters is how we help people learn, adapt, and stay relevant in real practical ways every day. Dorothy Yiu: What is, for you personally, one non-negotiable that will help you do your best work?
Li Lian Tan: I would say empowerment. Empowerment is a non-negotiable for me. When people are trusted and given the freedom to make decisions, they take ownership and bring their full potential to the table. Empowerment creates accountability, innovation, and confidence.
Li Lian Tan: It turns good teams into great ones. Dorothy Yiu: Yeah, people always forget that, they expect the leaders to empower everybody else, but leaders themselves also needs to be empowered. Final question. What's one book or podcast that you will recommend to leaders listening to this podcast?
Li Lian Tan: I would recommend Dare to Lead by Brene Brown. Li Lian Tan: It is a powerful reminder that courage, vulnerability, and empathy are the heart of strong leadership. It helps leaders understand that creating trust and connection is not a soft skill. It is a strategic advantage in driving performance and culture.
Dorothy Yiu: I'm actually not surprised that you quoted Brene Brown because she was also very influential for me, and she's the one taught me that every human being is hardwired for connection, and that's the foundation to so many things that we spoke about. Dorothy Yiu: This has been an absolute joy speaking to you once again, Li Lian. Hopefully more to come. Thank you so much for joining the HR Impact Show.
Li Lian Tan: Thank you for giving this opportunity to be in this podcast. Dorothy Yiu: To our listeners, thank you for tuning in to our HR Impact Show. If you have enjoyed the conversation, please like and subscribe on YouTube, Apple, Spotify, or any of your favourite podcasts. You can also subscribe to our community at engagerocket.
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