The CTO Show with Mehmet Gonullu · 2026-06-12 · 45 min
In this episode of The CTO Show with Mehmet, Mehmet sits down with Jason Li, CTO at Laurel. Jason brings experience from enterprise software, Salesforce, Ironclad, and AI-native product development. The conversation reframes AI adoption away from replacing work and toward understanding work. Faster code generation does not eliminate engineering bottlenecks. Quality, technical debt, review processes, and organizational design are becoming the limiting factors. If you are leading engineering teams, building AI products, or investing in enterprise software, this conversation provides a practical view of how AI is changing software development and technical leadership. About the Guest Jason Li is the CTO at Laurel, an AI company focused on time intelligence and productivity. Previously, he worked in enterprise software and held roles at Salesforce and Ironclad. His work spans AI-native products, developer productivity, legal technology, and engineering leadership. His perspective comes from operating AI systems inside production environments while managing the realities of software quality, technical debt, and team structure.
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