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Ideas and habits worth stealing from top copywriters.
450 episodes · publishes weekly · latest 2025-10-21 · ~57 min/episode
Rank
#335
Substance
78.0
/ 100
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Scored 2026-07
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#335 of 6183
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outscores 95% of the index
The Copywriter Club Podcast ranks #335 on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 78.0 out of 100, scored across 1 recent episode. It scores highest on specificity & evidence and guest caliber. This is the episode's strongest dimension: pricing tiers (3k+7%, 5k+3%, $7.5k flat), subscriber growth (4,000 to 79,000), lifetime client revenue ($250K+), projected incremental revenue for a named prospect ($750-800K in 12 months from a $15M Australian course business), subscriber acquisition costs ($3-4), and newsletter margin/multiple estimates (70% margins, 5-7x) are all stated with unusual concreteness.
Averaged across 1 recently scored episode, with cited evidence.
There are genuine operational insights packed in - rev share pricing structures, email attribution ratios, list monetisation models, and the strategic logic of owning implementation to own results. However, the delivery is meandering and repetitive, and large stretches are padded by stream-of-consciousness rambling that dilutes the per-minute insight rate.
“if they've got a seven figure run rate, my 90% of the time we're running 20 to 30% of the revenue per month on the low end from the list”
“email leads in a book, a call funnel or even in a sales funnel or even an E commerce ordeal like they're going to convert magnitudes higher um, than anything that's coming in from cold”
The core thesis - move from project copywriter to strategic list owner by taking implementation responsibility - is sound but not novel; it's a well-worn path in freelance circles. The newsletter buy-build-flip model and the op-ed angle on newsletters are modestly fresher, but most frameworks here (retainers beat projects, own your audience, email endures) circulate widely.
“if you took A newsletter. And it was all op ed, right? Like if you took a newspaper, excuse me, and it was only op Eds. Sweet.”
“the one thing that's continued and held constant for the entirety of the Internet, it has been an email address. It's absolutely crazy to think that we have not graduated from that as a technology in the past 35 years”
Jacob is a genuine practitioner - not a thought-leader-on-tour - with verifiable operational track record: multi-year client retainers, claimed $25M+ in direct email attribution, and real list growth numbers. He is mid-tier rather than a top-of-market CMO or scaled founder, but his credibility rests on having actually done the work rather than theorised about it.
“that guy's got everything that I've learned uh, in the past four years doing about 25 million, maybe a little bit more um, in sales directly from email”
“we made four between four and a half and $5 million together just from the email list and like direct attribution”
This is the episode's strongest dimension: pricing tiers (3k+7%, 5k+3%, $7.5k flat), subscriber growth (4,000 to 79,000), lifetime client revenue ($250K+), projected incremental revenue for a named prospect ($750-800K in 12 months from a $15M Australian course business), subscriber acquisition costs ($3-4), and newsletter margin/multiple estimates (70% margins, 5-7x) are all stated with unusual concreteness.
“we go 3k plus 7%, 5k plus 3% or 7 ah, thousand five hundred flat per month”
“we also took that list from 4,000 people to 79, um, and graduated it from sending three times a week to twice a day”
The host asks competent clarifying questions and successfully structures the conversation around concrete topics (pricing, CMO role, newsletters), but never pushes back on any claim, never asks for methodology behind the revenue figures, and lets the guest ramble at length without redirecting. It reads as a friendly facilitation rather than a probing interview.
“And what is, and what does that buy me as a client?”
“What's that conversation look like though?”
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