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Expedia × Profound | Competing in an AI-Driven Search World // With James Cadwallader and Daniel Shin Un Kang

The CMO Podcast · 2026-02-04 · 1h 2m

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We’re living through one of the biggest shifts in the internet since it began: a move from building content for people to building content for machines, on behalf of people. On this week’s episode, Jim Stengel is joined by James Cadwallader , Co-Founder and CEO of Profound , and Daniel Shin Un Kang , Head of Organic and Agentic Search at Expedia , for a thoughtful, practical conversation about AI search, answer engines, and what this shift means for the future of marketing. James founded Profound in 2024, raising $60 million and earning recognition from Redpoint Ventures as one of the most promising private AI companies shaping applied artificial intelligence. Today, Profound works with brands like US Bank, Chime, Expedia, and DocuSign to help them navigate the transition from traditional search to a world of answer engines, agents, and AI-led experiences. After building companies and investing in high-growth technology businesses, Daniel moved from the venture world into operating at global scale. He now leads Organic and Agentic Search at Expedia, where he’s helping redefine how one of the world’s largest travel platforms shows up in AI-powered search and discovery.

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