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Speaking of Risk and Audit

Hosted by AuditBoard

Listed under Business › Management

As organizations face increasingly complex risks, staying ahead requires more than compliance. It demands foresight, strategy, and agility.

26 episodes · publishes fortnightly · latest 2026-08-31 · ~21 min/episode

Rank

#767

Substance

75.4

/ 100

Breakdown

Scored 2026-08
Updated monthly

AI & Data rank

#84 of 495

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Across the index

#767 of 6219

Substance

Top 12%

outscores 88% of the index

Why it scores where it does

Speaking of Risk and Audit ranks #767 on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 75.4 out of 100, scored across 5 recent episodes. It scores highest on guest caliber and insight density. Charles King is a KPMG partner with genuine operational credibility: he spent years as an internal auditor, earned an NYU master's in data analytics, led revenue optimization in industry, and now leads innovation and AI integration at a Big Four firm. He is not a pure theorist but someone with hands-on experience building AI solutions and managing internal audit transformation. This is a relevant practitioner at scale.

The five-dimension breakdown

Averaged across 5 recently scored episodes, with cited evidence.

Insight Density

15.4 / 20

The episode covers several substantive topics - AI governance evolution, post-quantum cryptography, agentic AI use cases, and skill development for auditors - but spends considerable time on general introductions and conversational pleasantries. While there are actionable insights (e.g., the momentum game in building AI agents, starting with planning and reporting phases), much of the discussion restates common knowledge without dense, non-obvious claims that would surprise a seasoned audit operator.

“building your first agent is tricky. You've got to figure out how to navigate your organization's governance... But once you get to your second or third or fourth agent, you start to get some muscle memory”

“Usually where I see teams start is in the planning phase of the audit, when you're trying to synthesize a lot of documentation”

Originality

14.0 / 20

The guest makes one genuinely original contribution - post-quantum cryptography and harvest-now-decrypt-later threats - which is underappreciated in audit planning. However, the bulk of the discussion (AI governance maturation, skill development, treating AI as a tool requiring human judgment) tracks well-worn industry talking points. The framing of curiosity as the 'killer app' is memorable but not novel.

“We're one major breakthrough away from a quantum computer that can break all of our encryption”

“One of the trends that you're seeing now is a lot of organizations are taking a harvest now, decrypt later approach”

Guest Caliber

18.2 / 20

Charles King is a KPMG partner with genuine operational credibility: he spent years as an internal auditor, earned an NYU master's in data analytics, led revenue optimization in industry, and now leads innovation and AI integration at a Big Four firm. He is not a pure theorist but someone with hands-on experience building AI solutions and managing internal audit transformation. This is a relevant practitioner at scale.

“I started my career at KPMG as an internal auditor”

“Got a master's from NYU in data analytics and went off into industry to start a data analytics practice. Did that for about five years”

Specificity & Evidence

14.2 / 20

The episode lacks concrete data, named examples, or quantified metrics to anchor claims. Richard cites Optro research showing 25% of CAEs actively using AI, 50% piloting, and 25% not engaged, but Charles provides no specific client cases, ROI figures, timeline data, or named organizations to illustrate points. The discussion remains abstract about 'teams,' 'agents,' and 'organizations' without grounding in real-world examples.

“What came back from the population that we surveyed, chief audit executives, about 25% of them said they were actively using AI. About 50% said they're piloting or experimenting with it. And then about 25% said, you know what, we're not really going to do anything for at least a year”

“As we get more and more advanced along your journey, you can start to become more sophisticated”

Conversational Craft

13.6 / 20

Richard Chambers asks structured, logical follow-up questions that advance the conversation (challenges keeping CAEs awake, underestimated trends, evolution of AI conversation, immediate use cases, skill development). However, he rarely probes deeper when Charles makes bold claims - e.g., post-quantum cryptography is mentioned as critical but not interrogated further, and the metaphor of AI as 'precocious intern' is left unchallenged. The tone is collegial rather than press-like; missed opportunities to pressure-test claims.

“Let me ask you, what do you think are the most significant pressures and challenges that internal audits are currently facing”

“What would you say to a listener who's sort of on the fence? They know they want to try something”

Standout episodes

  • Auditing in the Age of AI: Risks, Rewards, and Practical Steps

    2026-04-27

    80
  • From GE Audit to AI

    2026-07-15

    79
  • Governing AI at Speed: Policies, Processes & People

    2026-04-14

    78

Rank over time

2 periods tracked.

Episodes

11 scored on substance · 25 tracked in total.

  • From GE Audit to AI

    2026-07-15 · 18 min

    79 / 100
  • Agentic AI Rewrites SOX Testing

    2026-05-28 · 16 min

    66 / 100
  • AI and the Future of Internal Audit

    2026-05-11 · 17 min

    74 / 100
  • Auditing in the Age of AI: Risks, Rewards, and Practical Steps

    2026-04-27 · 19 min

    80 / 100
  • Governing AI at Speed: Policies, Processes & People

    2026-04-14 · 16 min

    78 / 100
  • Optro Unveiled: Rebranding for an AI-Driven GRC future

    2026-03-17 · 6 min

    51 / 100
  • How AI Agents are transforming internal audit

    2026-02-11 · 19 min

    74 / 100
  • Audit Reports that drive action

    2026-01-13 · 17 min

    78 / 100
  • A career in public-sector internal audit

    2025-12-29 · 20 min

    68 / 100
  • AI vs. Cyber Risk: Is your organization resilient enough?

    2025-12-12 · 17 min

    72 / 100
  • Why corporate culture matters

    2025-11-03 · 25 min

    83 / 100

Frequently asked

What is Speaking of Risk and Audit's substance score?
Speaking of Risk and Audit scores 75.4 out of 100 for substance and ranks #767 on The B2B Podcast Index. That puts it ahead of 88% of the B2B podcasts we rank and #84 of 495 in AI & Data. The score reflects insight density, originality, guest caliber, specificity and conversational craft across recent episodes - not downloads.
Is Speaking of Risk and Audit worth listening to?
Yes - Speaking of Risk and Audit outscores 88% of the B2B ai & data podcasts and shows we rank on substance, so a ai & data operator is likely to come away with something useful.
Who hosts Speaking of Risk and Audit?
Speaking of Risk and Audit is hosted by AuditBoard.
How often does Speaking of Risk and Audit publish?
Speaking of Risk and Audit publishes fortnightly, has 26 episodes, released its most recent episode on 2026-08-31.
Which Speaking of Risk and Audit episode should I start with?
Our highest-scoring recent episode is "Auditing in the Age of AI: Risks, Rewards, and Practical Steps" (80/100) - a good place to start.

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Frequently discusses

Companies, products and tools that come up most across this show's episodes.

Audit Board · 9Optro · 5ChatGPT · 4Institute of Internal Auditors · 3Deloitte · 2Excel · 2FairNow · 2MidshipInstacartOpenAICalifornia Society of CPAsAICPALotus 1-2-3KPMGNYUCopilotEU AI ActGDPR

Guests who've appeared

Justin GreenbergerKieran TaylorAnthony PuglieseCharles KingGuru SathopathyRaul Villar, Jr.Richard PenfillMargie BastolaMike PeppersMichael RasmussenRenee MurphySandro Boeri

Topics this show covers

The themes that come up most across this show's episodes.

Audit Board · 4Agentic AI · 3Optro · 3AI agents · 3GRC (Governance, Risk and Compliance) · 2ServiceNowGeneral ElectricUiPathGE Corporate Audit Staffautonomous testingMidship acquisitionERP deploymentDeloitteInstacartMidshipSOX testingIGTC controlsPBC evidence

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