Caught in Clerkenwell - Part 2

So I'm out in Clerkenwell and I'm going to just grab some designers things like that and ask them what they think about their place, what's cool products are trending, what they want to see or even what they think is going to date in the next five years. Let's go. Three years after we've started this podcast, we thought it was time to make sure that those lessons and the takeaways from our amazing guests were actually actionable. So something you can really put into place. So we have launched Show Notes, a bi weekly email. Get into your inbox and that will give you the key headlines that is indexable, findable, actionable and we can really start to make a difference in creating healthy, happy workspaces. So the links below or you can head to stansons.co.uk space now. Look forward to seeing you sign up. What do you want to find when you walk around today? What are you looking for? Innovative new ideas, Something that we haven't seen before. Varieties inspired by. Yes. Yeah. What does like a really cool new product look like? What would you love to see? Something that goes against the grain, that's a bit more out there. There's a lot of things that I think are playing it safe at the moment. So something very bold, add a bit of edge. Colorful. Yeah, colorful, vibrant color. We're done with the beige. We're done with the beig. Yeah. Right. We actually love the beige but we are trying to be more colourful. We do love the beige, but. Okay. And what? Trying to embrace a little bit more colour. Wicked. One more question, what color do you think we should be seeing? Pink, Green. Controversial yellow. But it's my favorite color. Light green. Light green. Wicked. Thanks so much, girls. I want to know from you what you are hoping to find in Clackenmill. Oh, well, we've recently gone through freelance so we're having to do a lot of specification ourselves now for furniture and things like that. So anything new that's been around in the last sort of will come up in the last few months. Really unique pieces. What does unique look like from the crowd so standing out look like, I don't know, like statement pieces. I think looking for something a bit unusual, something that people haven't seen before. There's a lot of like things that people have seen before. So we're going to places where we're like, oh, that's new and exciting. I could see myself specifying that product. That's. That's the plan. And have you found any of those things? Yeah, I mean Helen has introduced you to quite a few new places today, which is good. And yeah, I think we're, we've still got a few to tick off our list. So we're trying to actually find lunch first. So you know. Yeah, who's got the best lunch? Let us in. And which place should I go to to find this cool piece that you've already seen that. Where should I be going? We've just been to Nor11. They've got really nice furniture, really nice statement pieces. So yeah, I'd recommend going in there and obviously I'd go into Stanson's as well. Cool. So what's one thing you're like hoping to see in Clark and well that you haven't been seeing around much? I understand like Clark and well, always showcase a lot of good materials and also nice design. But, but I think this time while we're joining Cloud Commercial Design Week, we hope to bring in an idea of how a public space can be designed for everyone. So that's why apart from a good material that we're using this time, we also want to challenge how people see colors. Because these colors we tailor made the colors so that with different color visions and so people they can see it differently. Yeah. And so together with this physical piece we also designed a web app so, so that when you scan our QR code in the web apps, we'll get the camera filter so that you can understand how other people see the same things. So I think that's I would say another layer of social meaning or social discussion that we think the Clyton Wild design we can bring on. And how did you pick the colors that you have chosen? Oh, the colors. So we try to study the three main types of color deficient visions and so we want to look at what are the colors that they will mix up. Or so that when we design this, we work with the manufacturer and see how we can tailor the colors so that everyone see it, they can see it differently. What are the three color deficiencies? So now here we have the pink, the yellow and also the purple one. So actually the pink and the yellow one under one of the color deficient and then you will see it as the same thing. So that when we, when we ask you a question like oh, how many this type of beads that you can identify in the insulation? So some people will tell us five, but some people, they will tell us three because the way that they see it differently. Amazing. That must be great for neurodiversity. Oh yes, that's something that because our company is from Hong Kong. So neurodiversity is something we have been working on a lot in Hong Kong. So that's why we think it will be quite a meaningful conversation that we can bring to Kraken Rome. Thank you so much for your time. So what's something you want to see when you're walking around later today? I walk around today. More to be inspired. Yeah. Yeah. To find, like, little detail or, like, really, like, nice piece. I mean, a lot of piece of furniture, but also, like, nice installation and, like, how to sell a project or so. So a bit mix of, like, nice project and nice marketing, I would say. Yeah. So what would make a really nice, like, little detail for you? What sort of things do you enjoy? That's a tricky question. I think it's, like. Can be, like, detailing the material. For example, like, home furniture is going to be assembled together. It's like a piece of joint or. I saw a lot of, like, nice graphic also around. So, like, some things that is just going to catch the eye and be like, oh, interesting. Love it. Thank you so much. Everyone's talking about color, and a few people appointed me to come here. So talk to me about your paint. Tell me, like, how did you come up with your color palette? It just occurred to me that when you're making paint and you're making ice cream, it's essentially the same thing. This Calcarius, it's calcium. So when you're putting. When I put the colors together, it always looks like ice cream because it's a milky sort of, you know, backdrop. And then we put a little texture into it and then discovered that if you called it, we'd call it all sort of ice cream flavors and serve it as ice cream. And then it. That was the only thing, you know, the only way that we could present it felt like the right thing to do. I love it. It's confused everyone. No, no, I love the idea. So all your colors, they've. They've got the best name. So we've got, like, International Butterscotch International Kiwi International Banana Skin. Why has it always got international on the front? The International was a way of joining up the rarefied world of art and the lowly world of interior decorate or at least decorating. And I've always thought there was sort of snobbery and a divide between those two things. And yet when you're. As a small boy or a small girl, you might go and paint your bedroom. That is an act of art. And so I wanted a way to sort of present it to people where paint is more than paint, it is art. You know, you can create something really clever on your wall. And the. The polar opposites of that were always the Yves Klein blue, which is the rarefied world of art, which was called International Klein blue. And then there's a color called international orange, which is the color of the Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco. And that's like industrial paint. So they're the polar opposites. And I wanted to sort of unify that and make it sound exotic. And I think for me, when you call it international raspberry or international milk chocolate, it suddenly becomes more exotic, and it feels like something sort of magical. And that was my way of doing it. And I feel like it's quite a good brand. You could easily imagine someone with international chocolate on a T shirt, and you'd be like, I like that. That's pretty cool. I don't know why. And that's it, really. Yeah. I literally love your brand. Thank you very much. What's the thing that you've seen that you think is going to date the most, the fastest? Oh, this is a tricky one. I do think I'm more. I'm worried about the conversation on neurodiversity becoming dated only because it feels like it's becoming a trend rather than a real life, you know, something that we should be considering, you know, further on in design and continuing as a legacy of design. Some of the conversations have felt a little bit like we're approaching it, like it's a trend, and I worry then in that way, all trends die eventually, and we don't want that to happen. Okay, yeah, totally. Fair enough. And what have you seen that's really cool that you want to put on a project? I mean, this space is pretty cool, though, in right now. It's quite nice to see this kind of environment filled with plants. I am the kind of person that normally like a traditional pub freaks me out a little bit, if I'm honest. Especially when, you know, when it's dark and it's like you don't know who's in there. But filling it with plants, it's just made it really welcome and inviting. So I think it's just pushing the boundaries of how we kind of take biofilic design. I think that'll be really cool. Love it. Thank you so much. What are you wanting to see, like, from the industry to change the workplace going forward in the next five years? Well, I mean, speaking on a kind of biased level, I definitely like what we do plants, biophilia and nature to become a more intrinsic part of design. I know it's definitely. It's definitely on the rise. It's definitely changing, but I want to. I don't want to see it getting ve'd at every opportunity for a start. How do you make sure it doesn't date, though? Well, just staying ahead of the curve and introducing more innovative and more interesting ways of bringing plants into spaces, but also engaging people on, like, a higher level as well. So we're doing. We do a lot at the moment around staff engagement and how we can actually get people involved with the plants and the design in office space as well, as much as just putting them in the office and beautifying the space. And if you could do anything with plants, like, literally the world is your oyster, what would you do? I'd love to, like, fill something really important, like, like the Houses of Parliament. I'd love to, like, turn it into, like, a really amazing, like, arboretum for everyone to go and enjoy. Something like that, something crazy, that really important space or building full of plants that people can go and enjoy as a public space. Wicked. Love it. I find it simply fascinating how physical space can totally change how we think, feel and behave, Meaning it can pause distractions, it can connect us, it can mean we do our very best work. And that's where Stanson's steps in this show is created by Stansons, who design, make and install curtains and acoustics to create the perfect environment for people to flourish and do their very best work. You've got a project on, we know how it feels. Reach out and we'll start to talk.