Scaling with AI · 2026-06-18 · 44 min
In this episode of Scaling With AI , Alex Bacon speaks to Sue Turner, founder of AI Governance and Professor in Practice for AI and Digital Tech at the University of Bristol Business School, about what it takes to use artificial intelligence in business with wisdom and integrity. Sue explains why responsible AI should not slow innovation, why shadow AI is already inside most organisations, and why leaders need to treat governance as a living system rather than a one-off policy. The conversation covers practical AI use cases, AI risk, human oversight, data protection, the EU AI Act, ISO 42001 and the uncomfortable trade-offs leaders face as AI adoption accelerates. Sue also shares why AI governance is a “wicked problem”, and what founders, operators and senior teams can do next to build confidence without drifting into recklessness. A grounded episode for anyone leveraging AI in business and trying to scale responsibly.
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