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Sales [UN]Training

Hosted by Kelly Riggs & Pod About It Productions

Your weekly sales strategy guide that will rewire your sales brain to bust bad habits and crush your number. The way that companies train salespeople is broken. Host Kelly Riggs discusses what ACTUALLY works in sales with leading experts in our industry. Forget what you think you know about sales.

159 episodes · publishes weekly · latest 2026-10-14 · ~26 min/episode

Rank

#4860

Substance

51.0

/ 100

Breakdown

Scored 2026-07
Updated monthly

Sales rank

#203 of 279

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Across the index

#4860 of 6212

Substance

Top 78%

outscores 22% of the index

Why it scores where it does

Sales [UN]Training ranks #4860 on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 51.0 out of 100, scored across 1 recent episode. It scores highest on insight density and specificity & evidence. The episode contains a few genuinely useful framings - particularly the three-bucket price-objection taxonomy and the point about negotiating away profit rather than selling value - but the core thesis ('value is perceived by the customer') is restated repeatedly rather than built upon, and large stretches are padding, subscription plugs, and rambling anecdotes.

The five-dimension breakdown

Averaged across 1 recently scored episode, with cited evidence.

Insight Density

12.0 / 20

The episode contains a few genuinely useful framings - particularly the three-bucket price-objection taxonomy and the point about negotiating away profit rather than selling value - but the core thesis ('value is perceived by the customer') is restated repeatedly rather than built upon, and large stretches are padding, subscription plugs, and rambling anecdotes.

“You can't negotiate price until you get value on the table. Otherwise, you're not negotiating you against them or you versus them or your value versus the price. You're simply negotiating how much of your profit you're going to give away in order to get a deal.”

“If people are objecting to your price, there's only really three answers. One, they love your product, but they want to negotiate because everybody on the planet is trying to get a better deal. Two, the value does not justify the price. Three, they're not interested at all.”

Originality

10.0 / 20

The central argument - customers buy outcomes, not products - is decades old, and the episode explicitly recycles a Ziglar framework from the 1980s; the 'easy button' framing and 'what's keeping you up at night is tired' observation are themselves well-worn sales-coaching staples with no genuinely contrarian twist.

“people don't buy products, as I've said a thousand times, they buy what that product does for them”

“what Ziegler said way back in the 80s”

Guest Caliber

9.0 / 20

This is a solo-host monologue; Kelly Riggs is a sales trainer and consultant whose credibility rests on anecdotal personal experience rather than documented operator outcomes at scale, and no guest practitioner appears to raise the caliber of the conversation.

“I've been traveling as a salesperson manager consultant now for i don't know 35 40 years whatever it is”

“I'm Kelly Riggs”

Specificity & Evidence

12.0 / 20

The Briggs & Riley luggage example is concrete, named, and carries a real price signal ('it was like double') with a multi-year personal timeline, but it's essentially the only specific named example in the episode; all other claims about customers, deals, and ROI stories are anecdotal and unnamed.

“I went and priced a Briggs & Riley carry-on bag and choked. What? It was like double.”

“That was, I'm going to say, 16 years ago, at least. It's been a very, very long time. Never missed a beat.”

Conversational Craft

8.0 / 20

The episode is an uninterrupted solo monologue with no guest, no probing follow-up questions, and no productive disagreement; the host simulates dialogue with imaginary objectors, but this is a pedagogical device rather than genuine conversational craft, and it frequently collapses into self-answering rhetorical questions.

“Well, we're always trying to add value. I'm like, what does that even mean? I was like, you know, add value. I go, yeah, I heard you the first time. What does it mean?”

“Have you ever closed a deal without talking about price?”

Standout episodes

  • Value Isn't Value Until the Customer Says So

    2026-06-29

    51

Rank over time

First period on the Index - history builds from here.

Episodes

1 scored on substance · 60 tracked in total.

  • Value Isn't Value Until the Customer Says So

    2026-06-29 · 24 min

    51 / 100

Frequently asked

What is Sales [UN]Training's substance score?
Sales [UN]Training scores 51.0 out of 100 for substance and ranks #4860 on The B2B Podcast Index. That puts it ahead of 22% of the B2B podcasts we rank and #203 of 279 in Sales. The score reflects insight density, originality, guest caliber, specificity and conversational craft across recent episodes - not downloads.
Is Sales [UN]Training worth listening to?
Sales [UN]Training is ranked on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 51.0/100. See the five-dimension breakdown above to judge whether it fits what you're after.
Who hosts Sales [UN]Training?
Sales [UN]Training is hosted by Kelly Riggs & Pod About It Productions.
How often does Sales [UN]Training publish?
Sales [UN]Training publishes weekly, has 159 episodes, released its most recent episode on 2026-10-14.
Which Sales [UN]Training episode should I start with?
Our highest-scoring recent episode is "Value Isn't Value Until the Customer Says So" (51/100) - a good place to start.

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Frequently discusses

Companies, products and tools that come up most across this show's episodes.

Briggs & RileyThe Hidden YesBusiness Locker Room

Topics this show covers

The themes that come up most across this show's episodes.

Customer experienceProactive communicationValue perceptionPrice objectionsCustomer dialogueEasy button (problem-solving)ROI storytellingZig Ziglar pricing principleBriggs & Riley guarantee modelSales training effectiveness

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