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12 Steps to Creating an Outcome-based Pricing Plan

SaaS Metrics School · 2026-06-12 · 7 min

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Key moments - from our scoring

Substance score

43 / 100

Five dimensions, 20 points each

Insight Density11 / 20
Originality9 / 20
Guest Caliber6 / 20
Specificity & Evidence13 / 20
Conversational Craft4 / 20

Ben Murray walks through a comprehensive 12-step framework for building outcome-based pricing plans, drawing on analysis of real pricing pages from companies like Intercom, Help Scout, and Zendesk. The framework addresses critical decisions: determining whether your product actually delivers measurable outcomes (step 1), defining atomic billing units tied to customer workflows (step 2), writing precise success criteria with product logic (step 3), and building in failure forgiveness so customers don't pay when the product underperforms (step 4). Murray covers practical execution challenges including measurement windows for delayed outcomes (step 5), choosing between dollar or credit-based billing (step 6), planning for AI training periods before charging begins (step 7), and selecting the right commercial structure - whether pure pay-as-you-go, hybrid subscription-plus-outcomes, or enterprise custom models (step 8). He emphasizes anchoring prices to value created (labor savings, revenue generation, risk avoidance), implementing spend controls to address CFO budget anxiety, and making every billing transaction auditable to build customer trust. The episode concludes with the crucial counterpoint: not all products should use outcome pricing, and founders must evaluate whether their customer segment and use case actually warrant this approach.

Key takeaways

  • →Outcome-based pricing only works if your software directly produces measurable customer results, not just activities - first verify you have a genuine outcome before implementing this model.
  • →Success criteria must be precisely defined with product logic (like Help Scout's requirement that AI provides a full response with no further customer questions) to prevent billing disputes and maintain customer trust.
  • →Failure forgiveness mechanisms and measurement windows (e.g., Zendesk's 72-hour pattern before charging) are essential to insulate customers from execution risk and drive conversion.
  • →Spend controls and monthly limits should be built in before customers request them to address CFO budget anxiety when outcome pricing causes variable costs to scale unpredictably.
  • →Every billable outcome must be auditable and transparent to customers - outcome pricing creates inherent trust problems since vendors both define and invoice the outcomes.

In this episode

  1. 1Determine if Your Software Has an Outcome
  2. 2Define the Outcome-Based Pricing Unit
  3. 3Define Success Criteria for Self-Serve and Mid-Market
  4. 4Build in Failure Forgiveness
  5. 5Use a Measurement Window
  6. 6Choose Billing Method: Dollars or Credits
  7. 7Plan for the Training Ramp Period
  8. 8Select the Commercial Structure

Mentioned

IntercomHelp ScoutZendeskBen Murray

Topics in this episode

Intercom Fin AI agentHelp Scout AI answersZendesk automated resolutionoutcome-based pricing modelsfailure forgivenessmeasurement windowscredit-based vs dollar-based pricingspend controlsaudit logs for billing transparencySaaS pricing frameworks

Questions this episode answers

What is an outcome-based pricing unit and what makes it effective?

An outcome-based pricing unit is the atomic base billing event that should be easy to count and tied to a workflow the customer already cares about. For example, Intercom charges $0.99 per outcome where an outcome is an AI agent resolving an issue end-to-end or executing a configured procedure.

Why is failure forgiveness important in outcome-based pricing?

Failure forgiveness is both a conversion tool and billing logic that insulates customers from execution risk. If the product fails or stalls, customers shouldn't pay, which reduces adoption barriers and builds trust in the pricing model.

How do companies handle measurement delays in outcome-based pricing?

Companies use measurement windows to ensure outcomes are actually achieved before billing. Zendesk, for example, waits 72 hours of inactivity and confirms via LLM that an issue was resolved before counting it as a billable automated resolution.

What are the different commercial structures for outcome-based pricing beyond pure pay-as-you-go?

Options include pure outcome-based pricing, pay-as-you-go with billing in arrears, subscription plus outcome credits, hybrid pricing plus outcomes, and enterprise custom outcome pricing - not all models use simple rate times volume calculations.

Why do customers need to audit billing transactions in outcome-based pricing?

Outcome pricing creates a trust problem because the vendor defines, measures, and invoices the outcome. Making every billing event auditable allows customers to inspect transaction records supporting the bill and builds confidence in the model.

What our scoring noted

Our reviewer’s read on each dimension, with quotes from the episode.

Insight Density

11 / 20

The episode moves briskly through a 12-step framework and includes a few genuinely useful distinctions - measurement windows, training lag, failure forgiveness as a conversion tool - but several steps are thin or obvious (e.g., 'decide whether you have an outcome') and depth per step is constrained by the format. At 7 minutes it is more checklist than analysis.

Failure forgiveness is a conversion tool, just billing logic. So customers try outcome based pricing because they are insulated from execution risk.
outcome pricing lowers adoption risk because customers only pay when it works. But it also creates a little budget anxiety. If it works really well, then we're going to be charging that customer more and more.

Originality

9 / 20

The framework is a logical synthesis of observed pricing pages rather than first-principles or contrarian thinking. The reframe of failure forgiveness as a commercial adoption lever is the sharpest moment; the rest largely follows conventional SaaS monetization logic.

Failure forgiveness is a conversion tool, just billing logic.
know when not to use outcome pricing. And I think this is the big thing just with usage, with consumption, not uh, I don't think everything is moving to outcome pricing.

Guest Caliber

6 / 20

This is a solo episode by the host, who is a credible SaaS finance practitioner, but there is no guest at all - the content is explicitly a narration of a blog post, which limits the experiential depth and practitioner perspective that a real operator guest would provide.

one of my recent blog posts, I'll have the link in the show notes because there's a lot of depth to this post but I'll cover the highlights of this the 12 steps

Specificity & Evidence

13 / 20

Named companies with concrete dollar figures (Intercom $0.99, Help Scout $0.75 per resolution, Zendesk's 72-hour inactivity window, Help Scout's free 3-month training trial) elevate this well above vague framework content; however, one company is unnamed due to a recall failure and several steps cite no evidence at all.

Intercom's Fin AI agent charges $0.99 per outcome where an outcome is fin resolving an issue end to end or executing a configured procedure
for support cases like Zendesk, there's a 72 hour pattern where it counts an automated resolution after 72 hours of inactivity once its LLM confirms the issue was resolved

Conversational Craft

4 / 20

There is no interview dynamic whatsoever - the episode is a listicle read from a blog post with no probing questions, no pushback, and audible stumbles mid-sentence. Conversational craft as a scoring dimension is almost inapplicable in this format.

Ex God, I can't even say the name of this company.

Conversation analysis

Computed from the transcript - who did the talking, and the words that came up most.

Most-used words

outcome32pricing23based12number12customer9help7example6creating5customers5define5issue4step4product4scout4answers4outcomes4

Episode notes

Everyone says seat-based pricing is dead, but do you actually have an outcome you can charge for? In episode #377, Ben Murray breaks down the 12 steps to building an outcome-based pricing plan, drawn from analyzing real, live outcome-based pricing pages and the fine print buried in their terms and conditions. Outcome pricing is complex to design and even harder for customers to understand: when are they charged, and where is the failure point at which they aren't? For SaaS founders and CFOs weighing a move to outcome- or agentic-AI pricing, getting the unit, success criteria, and spend controls right is the difference between a model customers trust and one that creates budget anxiety and billing disputes. How to decide whether you even have a billable outcome, and why a completed customer result is not the same as an activity. How to define the outcome unit and write success criteria twice, with real examples from Intercom's Fin, Help Scout's AI Answers, and Zendesk's 72-hour resolution window. Why failure forgiveness is a conversion tool, not just billing logic, and how measurement windows protect you from outcomes that unravel later.

Full transcript

7 min

Transcribed and scored by The B2B Podcast Index.

Speaker A: What are the 12 steps to creating an outcome based pricing plan? Well, let's find out in today's edition of SAS Metrical. Welcome. My name is Ben Murray. So one of my recent blog posts, I'll have the link in the show notes because there's a lot of depth to this post but I'll cover the highlights of this the 12 steps to create an outcome based pricing plan. And this is based on analyzing, uh, lots of pricing pages out there, real live outcome based pricing pages and of course all the fine print, the terms and conditions behind that pricing page. Because we know this is complex not only to create but also to understand as the customer. How are we getting charged and when don't we get charged? What's that failure point where we don't get charged. So let's dive in. So number one, decide whether you actually have an outcome. This is a big one because we've talked about, well, CP based pricing is dead, subscriptions are dead. But actually is your software the customers you're serving, the workflow, is it built? Is it, could you have outcome based pricing? So ask whether your metric is tied to a completed customer result or just producing an activity so an issue resolved etc. So one we've got to determine do we have an outcome that we're achieving with our software or that we could achieve with our software? Step number two, define the outcome based pricing unit. The outcome unit is that atomic base billing event. It should be easy to count and tied to a workflow the customer already cares about. For example, Intercom's Fin AI agent charges $0.99 per outcome where an outcome is fin resolving an issue end to end or executing a configured procedure. So define that outcome based pricing unit. Step number three, define success criteria and define them twice for self serve and mid market products. Write success criteria like product line logic. There's a lot of logic in creating these in these plans. For example, help scout charges when AI answers and that's the product. M um, AI answers gives a full response and the customer does not ask for more help. It does not charge for greetings follow up questions without an answer or when the customer requests help. So define success criteria and then review that and validate that. Step number four, build in forgive failure forgiveness. This is a big one. Failure forgiveness is a conversion tool, just billing logic. So customers try outcome based pricing because they are insulated from execution risk. If the product fails, stalls, whatever it might be, the customer shouldn't pay. So ex, ex God, I can't even say the name of this company. An AI recruiting platform makes drop offs and no shows free. So for example, step number five, use a measurement window. Many outcomes are not knowable in that moment. We don't know a customer can look satisfied and reopen the issue two hours later. So for example, uh, for support cases like Zendesk, there's a 72 hour pattern where it counts an automated resolution after 72 hours of inactivity once its LLM confirms the issue was resolved. So you may have a measurement window just to make sure that that outcome was actually achieved. Number six, halfway through, decide whether to bill in dollars or credits. Some companies publish dollar prices, income or sorry, intercom $0.99 per outcome, help scout $0.75 per resolution. Others use credits to price across multiple outcome types. So are we going to charge, you know, dollars, cents or credits that equate to some dollar amount and then number seven, plan for the training leg. Outcome pricing assumes the product uh, produces uh, outcomes immediately, which may not be the case. AI products often cannot produce immediate outcomes. We could have training, we could, you know, going through, you know, you know, feeding all ingesting data to make the outcomes better. So Help Scout for example offers a free three month trial to train AI answers before charges begin. So we charge them right away or do we have a little training ramp up? Number eight, choose the commercial structure. Outcome pricing does not have to mean pure pay as you go. So you could have pure outcome based pricing like Intercom's fin 99 cents for outcome, you could have pay as you go resolution build in rel in arrears, you could have subscription plus outcome credits, you could have hybrid plus outcome and you could have enterprise custom outcome pricing. So a lot of different ways. It's not just rate times outcome volume. Number nine, anchor price to the type of value created. So separate value anchors into three categories. Labor savings, revenue generation and risk avoidance. Where are we creating that value? Number 10, almost there. Add spend controls before customers ask. In my previous podcast, the previous episode, talking about AI pricing trends and sentiment about those hard caps, if we reach usage limits, just like outcome pricing, we may only want to spend so much. But outcome pricing lowers adoption risk because customers only pay when it works. But it also creates a little budget anxiety. If it works really well, then we're going to be charging that customer more and more. This of course causes headaches for CFOs, for forecasting, for budgeting. Help Scouts let Help Scout, for example, lets admin set a monthly limit by the number of resolutions. And this is a big one. Disables AI answers when the limit is hit. So boy, talk about creating a pain point shifting instead of agentic a workflow, now the person's got to do it. Oh yeah, well let's pay some more instead of pushing it over to a human number 11. This is a big one, especially for the invoice for them to pay make every outcome audible. So outcome pricing creates a trust problem because the vendor defines, measures and invoices the outcome. If customers cannot inspect the billing events, they will not trust the model. So we need to it audible all the transactions, all those records to support that bill and then finally know when not to use outcome pricing. And I think this is the big thing just with usage, with consumption, not uh, I don't think everything is moving to outcome pricing. AgentIC AI pricing, it depends on the customer that you're serving. I just interviewed a founder today, was back on the podcast again after a couple years and they price uh, based on a percentage of value and this is in the construction industry. So know when not to use outcome pricing. So really quick, I have a lot more details on my blog post at the sass cfo.com, i'll put a link in the show notes if you'd like to go in deep on creating that framework, that structure to create outcome based pricing. Hope you enjoyed the episode today. Thanks.

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