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700: 108.00 Jennifer Garvey Berger on building our complexity fitness

Play to Potential Podcast · 2026-02-05 · 1h 12m

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GUEST: Jennifer Garvey Berger is a leadership thinker, author, and co-founder of Cultivating Leadership. Her work focuses on adult development and how leaders can grow their inner capacity to meet an increasingly complex world. She is the author of Changing on the Job and Unlocking Leadership Mindtraps . In this conversation, we explore why many capable leaders still feel overwhelmed, reactive, or stuck despite their experience. Jennifer introduces the idea of complexity fitness and explains how leadership today is less about having answers and more about expanding how we make sense of situations. We discuss the different stages of adult development, what it means to move from a socialized mind to a self-authoring and self-transforming mind, and why true growth often requires examining the beliefs and assumptions we are subject to without realizing it. Jennifer also talks about listening to be unsettled, securing the bridge on both ends when supporting change in others, and why playfulness is not a distraction but a signal of deeper maturity.

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