PERSONAL BRAND TALK Cam Roberts Podcast Show · 2026-02-02 · 7 min
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Substance score
47 / 100
Five dimensions, 20 points each
Webinars have become a saturated tactic that audiences now perceive primarily as sales pitches, making them increasingly difficult to leverage for conversions despite their long history as a marketing tool. Cam Roberts draws on direct client experience - including a golf coach with 40,000 active members who achieves only 400 webinar registrations from 20,000 email recipients - to illustrate the conversion funnel problem. Even when attendance is solid (200 people showing up), the perceived friction of sitting through an hour-long presentation deters participation. Rather than abandoning webinars entirely, Roberts advocates for testing them multiple times before dismissing the format, then strategically alternating with three-day challenges. He cites Russell Brunson and ClickFunnels as examples of how three-day challenges work: they're free but require account creation to participate, making them less obviously transactional while still achieving acquisition. Roberts recommends a hybrid approach where one month emphasizes webinars and the next emphasizes challenges, each lasting 45 minutes and running consistently at the same time daily, with progressive seeding of the value proposition and call-to-action throughout the three days.
Based on Cam Roberts' client data with a golf coaching list, approximately 50% of people who register for a webinar will actually attend; 400 registrations typically yield 200 attendees.
Webinars have been around long enough that audiences now perceive them primarily as sales pitches rather than educational content, making people more cautious about attending, and the time commitment of an hour-long session is a barrier.
A three-day challenge runs for three consecutive days at the same time (e.g., Tuesday-Thursday at 10am or 7pm) with 45-minute sessions each; participants discover value progressively while soft-seeding the offer early and placing the explicit call-to-action on day three, often requiring account creation to participate.
The challenge is free and valuable, but participants can only complete it with a ClickFunnels account, so the platform wins by acquiring accounts regardless of whether participants buy the paid product.
No; Cam Roberts recommends testing at least three or four webinars before deciding the format doesn't work for you, and suggests alternating webinars with three-day challenges monthly to find your audience's preference.
Our reviewer’s read on each dimension, with quotes from the episode.
The episode provides concrete conversion data (20k emails → 400 registrations → 200 attendees) and contrasts webinars with three-day challenges as alternatives, offering some tactical specificity. However, much of the content is anecdotal story-telling about 'Adam' the golf coach and lacks deeper analysis of *why* these conversion rates occur or how to improve them; the advice devolves into obvious suggestions (test multiple times, keep it short) and light operational guidance.
20,000 people get sent the emails... 400 people will register for the webinar... then half the people show up
I think because webinars have been around a long time and everyone's so used to doing a zoom, I think people think like a webinar's another way to be pitched
The core insight - that webinars suffer from audience fatigue and low conversion - is widely acknowledged in marketing circles and not novel. The suggestion to alternate webinars with three-day challenges is a reasonable tactical shift, but it largely echoes Russell Brunson's playbook without adding fresh thinking or contrarian frameworks. No original methodology or counterintuitive positioning emerges.
I think because webinars have been around a long time and everyone's so used to doing a zoom, I think people think like a webinar's another way to be pitched
Russell Brunson does it... the three day challenge is free... you can't do the challenge without a clickfunnels account
Cam Roberts is a self-identified 'mentor, motivator and marketer' but is presented as the primary voice offering anecdotal client experience rather than deep operator credibility. While he references clients like Adam (a PGA coach) and Trent, he is a service provider/consultant commenting on others' results rather than a founder or operator who has scaled a business directly. The guest lacks clear senior-level credibility for B2B SaaS or revenue-critical contexts.
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I'll just give you my experience based on some of my other clients
The episode includes concrete numbers (40k list, 25k active, 20k email reach, 400 registrations, 200 attendees, 45-60 minute webinars extending to 90 minutes) and names specific people (Adam, Trent, Russell Brunson, ClickFunnels). However, data is limited to one primary case study (golf coaching), lacks timelines, success metrics beyond attendance, and no dollar figures or revenue impact are disclosed. The three-day challenge recommendation lacks comparable hard metrics.
Adam's got a list of, I don't know what, 40,000 active members. But out of that we know that 25,000 go in there and check out their lessons
400 people will register for the webinar... 200 people will, um, will go to the webinar
This appears to be a monologue (single speaker) rather than a dialogue; there is no host pushing back, asking clarifying questions, or challenging claims. The speaker rambles through anecdotes without structured follow-up or synthesis. No evidence of disagreement, alternative hypotheses, or productive tension. The format is a one-way advice dump rather than an engaging back-and-forth exploration of the topic.
Webinars is a real tricky one, I got to be honest with you. Um, yeah, it's just so tricky
You know, Adam's got a list of, I don't know what, 40,000 active members
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Welcome to another episode of Personal Brand Talk, the podcast where we break down the secrets of world-class branding and marketing so YOU can apply them to grow, scale, and dominate in your niche. Today's topic is about Why Webinars Are Tricky For Making Sales Why even large communities see low live attendance on webinars How Q&A-style webinars keep people engaged for longer than planned Why many people don't want to sit through long webinars The importance of testing multiple webinars before deciding they don't work How combining webinars with short 3-day challenges can improve engagement and sales ️ Enjoyed this episode? Don't forget to:
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Speaker A: Webinars is a real tricky one, I got to be honest with you. Um, yeah, it's just so tricky. Like I've, you know, so, uh, again, I'll just give you my experience based on some of my other clients. You know, Adam's got a list of, I don't know what, 40,000 active members. But out of that we know that 25,000 go in there and check out their lessons and stuff every month, right? So we see 25,000 logins. So that's pretty good. Like, you know, so half these members log into his customer hub area, which is your equivalent of school. Right? But when we host a webinar, like, you'll get about 400 people register for a webinar. Out of the 400 people that register for a webinar, um, 200 people will, um, will go to the webinar. So he's got a big list right. Now, having said that, Even though there's 40,000, 20,000 are active. So when we send the webinar, uh, invites out, and these are golfers, right? So they're not the most tech savvy people, you know, over 50 golfers. So when we send an email out, usually gets in the hands of 20,000 people by the end of it with the open rates and so forth. Right. So 20,000 people get sent the emails. We send four or five emails out, uh, 400 people will register for the webinar on Zoom. We just use Zoom, um, because it's easy. And then half the people show up that register in the way that, um, Adam does it. He does it really well. It's basically Q and A. And uh, it just works really, really well. Um, jumps on and just talks golf. And we usually aim for like a 45 minute hour webinar, um, and it ends up being an hour and a half to sometimes two hours. People just keep staying on and asking him questions. Um, having said that, Adam is a full time, um, PGA golf coach of the year type guy in America. So very well known, right. Got the good reputation. So for him it's quite good. Like it's, you know, he's not getting hundreds and thousands of people on a webinar, but you know, 200 people it's not. And we do it every Month. It's not the same people, you know, so it is great value. Add in Adam's list. When I look at other clients who have been business coaches, ah, Trent for instance, um, uh, you know, RTOs, registered training organizations, um, other businesses that have, that have sold investment, um, opportunities, uh, those guys have been hard to kind of get people on a webinar. And I think because webinars have been around a long time and everyone's so used to doing a zoom, I think people think like a webinar's another way to be pitched. You know, they're a bit kind of cautious. And the other thing is the time, like people don't want to sit and watch something for an hour sort of thing. So I would recommend at least testing it and testing at least three or four of them before you decide it's not for you. Um, but it's, but certainly as a way of adding some value, showing them some case studies. But one thing I did want to say, and you've seen this before and that is like a three day challenge. And you see, um, you know, uh, Russell Brunson does it, you know, and different kind of platforms do it. And they run a three day challenge. And the three day challenge is free. And what they're basically doing in three days is three days is trying to get people to achieve something. But why it works for Russell Brunson and click funnels and people like that is because it's a free challenge. Like the challenge is free, but you can't do the challenge without a clickfunnels account. So they're basically getting people hooked up on click funnels. Right? And then, hey, run the challenge, get your clickfunnels account, you know, sort of thing. So they kind of win anyway. Right. But I do think that there's some legs and merit in there for you to run a combination of, you know, social proofing, nurturing, value adding webinars. Um, and a three day challenge. And maybe for you it's uh, a month, about one month you push hard for a webinar. The next month you push hard for a three day challenge. Um, and the three day challenge works. It's three days. If you don't know about, I'm sure you do, but if you don't, it's three days, same time, same bat time, same back channel sort of thing. Right? So you run it for three days. Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, try a morning one, try a night one. But it's like Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, 10am, 10am, 10am or Tuesday, Wednesday Thursday, 7pm, 7pm, 7pm, right. And you run the three day challenge 45 minutes each. One short, sharp, straight to the point. And that can be a good way to upsell people as well because you start seeding on the first challenge about the second one. The second one you start seeding about the call to action. And the third one, you, you know, halfway through the three day challenge, on the third day, you're, you know, you're pitching for them to open an account and do it. And you know, the great thing with the challenge is you got to have an account, right, to, to make money and, you know, you're making money together and that sort of thing. So that's my, that's my take on that. I would recommend you give it a go, but don't be disappointed if you don't get the numbers show up because it is what it is. Webinar's been around for a while, can be a bit of a hard slug to get people to. But I think you've done well, um, and at the right times and tested a few times, it could be a really good tool for you, um, especially when interweaved with a three day challenge every other month.
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