
Next Man Up: An MCEL Podcast · 2026-01-16 · 32 min
About this Episode In this episode of Next Man Up, host Kareem Thomas speaks with guests Ray Pace and Dr. Wardell Hunter about the critical importance of leadership development programs for aspiring school leaders. They explore the frameworks for effective leadership training, the significance of mentoring and coaching, and the need for self-assessment and reflective conversations in preparing future leaders. The conversation also addresses the challenges faced by assistant principals and the importance of adaptability in diverse educational environments. Key Takeaways Reflective conversations help aspiring leaders understand their motivations. Self-assessment against leadership standards is essential for growth. Mentoring provides technical assistance, while coaching focuses on mindset. Transitioning to new roles can enhance leadership skills. About Raymond Roy-Pace Raymond Roy-Pace is an education leader and strategist with over 15 years of experience advancing instructional excellence, leadership development, and equity-driven school improvement.