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Moving Up

Hosted by Alex Grodnik

Hear directly from marketing and business leaders. Secrets to success, struggles along the way, optimal career paths and life in general.

172 episodes · publishes fortnightly · latest 2024-03-19 · ~28 min/episode

Rank

#793

Substance

74.0

/ 100

Breakdown

Scored 2026-07
Updated monthly

Leadership rank

#57 of 1041

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Across the index

#793 of 6182

Substance

Top 13%

outscores 87% of the index

Why it scores where it does

Moving Up ranks #793 on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 74.0 out of 100, scored across 1 recent episode. It scores highest on guest caliber and specificity & evidence. Adam Dell is a genuine practitioner - four founded companies, a real 18-month exit to Goldman Sachs, and hands-on experience at credible venture firms. He speaks from direct operational experience rather than secondhand framework-pedaling, though the interview format never fully unlocks the depth his résumé would suggest is available.

The five-dimension breakdown

Averaged across 1 recently scored episode, with cited evidence.

Insight Density

15.0 / 20

There are genuine non-obvious insights around using subscription cancellation as a behavioral trust-bridge with consumers, and a substantive critique of Mint as 'emotionally tone deaf' with a past-only orientation. However, the first third of the episode is largely a generic 'breaking into venture' hustle narrative, and the closing career advice is pure platitude, dragging density down considerably.

“by leading with subscriptions, uh, what we showed to the consumer was that this tool called Clarity Money could help them figure out something about their financial life, would help them take tactical steps that would improve that life”

“Mint was a great, uh, dashboard about your past, but wasn't a step you could take to improve something about your future”

Originality

14.0 / 20

The behavioral economics framing (Kahneman, Thaler, Ariely) applied to fintech UX is a legitimately interesting intellectual thread, and the 'emotionally tone deaf' critique of Mint is a fresh angle. But the VC career narrative - cold call your way in, work for free, find a mentor - is recycled territory, and the closing advice is entirely generic.

“Could you use behavioral economics and the notions of nudging and anchoring and framing, um, as ways to help consumers make steps toward a better financial life?”

“Mint was emotionally tone deaf. It didn't take into account the, um, the psychological, uh, barriers that consumers face when thinking about their money”

Guest Caliber

18.0 / 20

Adam Dell is a genuine practitioner - four founded companies, a real 18-month exit to Goldman Sachs, and hands-on experience at credible venture firms. He speaks from direct operational experience rather than secondhand framework-pedaling, though the interview format never fully unlocks the depth his résumé would suggest is available.

“Clarity is the fourth company that I've started, and, um, they've all worked out pretty well”

“we were in the process of um launching a ah loan offer uh to our customers and reached out to Goldman Sachs uh and the Marcus business”

Specificity & Evidence

16.0 / 20

The episode earns credit for named companies with outcomes (OpenTable, Hot Jobs/Yahoo, Ingenio/AT&T), concrete user milestones (25,000 day-one, 1M in under a year), a clear timeline (18-month cradle-to-exit), and named behavioral economists. It loses points for conspicuously omitting the acquisition price despite being teased as 'a really big number,' and for offering no CAC data or revenue figures.

“we had over 25,000 customers. That was in part due to the fact that Apple, um, really fell in love with our product”

“over a million customers in less than a year”

Conversational Craft

11.0 / 20

The host repeatedly narrates back what the guest just said rather than probing further, asks no challenging follow-ups, and opens the episode with a lengthy self-promotional segment about the podcast's download numbers. Questions are consistently confirmatory ('So you raised this Series A based on a PowerPoint - that's the benefit of connections') rather than interrogative, and no claim is pushed back on.

“So you raised this Series A on basically a PowerPoint presentation. So that's the benefit of the connections and experience that you carved out in your, uh, earlier life”

“Yeah, I mean, that's a. That's a good testament to anything in life”

Standout episodes

  • E179: Adam Dell (Clarity Money acquired by Goldman Sachs) - Run towards what you’re good at

    2024-03-19

    74

Rank over time

First period on the Index - history builds from here.

Episodes

1 scored on substance · 60 tracked in total.

  • E179: Adam Dell (Clarity Money acquired by Goldman Sachs) - Run towards what you’re good at

    2024-03-19 · 39 min

    74 / 100

Frequently asked

What is Moving Up's substance score?
Moving Up scores 74.0 out of 100 for substance and ranks #793 on The B2B Podcast Index. That puts it ahead of 87% of the B2B podcasts we rank and #57 of 1041 in Leadership. The score reflects insight density, originality, guest caliber, specificity and conversational craft across recent episodes - not downloads.
Is Moving Up worth listening to?
Yes - Moving Up outscores 87% of the B2B leadership podcasts and shows we rank on substance, so a leadership operator is likely to come away with something useful.
Who hosts Moving Up?
Moving Up is hosted by Alex Grodnik.
How often does Moving Up publish?
Moving Up publishes fortnightly, has 172 episodes, released its most recent episode on 2024-03-19.
Which Moving Up episode should I start with?
Our highest-scoring recent episode is "E179: Adam Dell (Clarity Money acquired by Goldman Sachs) - Run towards what you’re good at" (74/100) - a good place to start.

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Adam Dell

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Behavioral economicsCredit KarmaSoFiProsperNerdWalletClarity MoneyGoldman Sachs acquisitionKahneman and ThalerRocket MortgageMint (personal finance app)

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