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Leading for Business Excellence

Hosted by PMI - Process Management International

PMI’s podcast, Leading for Business Excellence, brings you inspiring stories from leaders who share their experiences gained around the globe and across a multitude of sectors. Hear how Business Excellence is a key part of being a great leader, and how it has enabled our guests to achieve outstanding results.

136 episodes · publishes weekly · latest 2025-10-21 · ~11 min/episode

Rank

#2821

Substance

64.0

/ 100

Breakdown

Scored 2026-07
Updated monthly

Leadership rank

#323 of 1042

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Across the index

#2821 of 6219

Substance

Top 45%

outscores 55% of the index

Why it scores where it does

Leading for Business Excellence ranks #2821 on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 64.0 out of 100, scored across 1 recent episode. It scores highest on guest caliber and specificity & evidence. Sue Thexton is a legitimate practitioner - founding UK employee at Adobe, parallel role at Macromedia, bootstrapped-to-acquisition journey at OneFile, and now a genuine group operator role at Harris overseeing a portfolio - giving her real credibility, though the scale and public prominence of the roles fall short of the top tier.

The five-dimension breakdown

Averaged across 1 recently scored episode, with cited evidence.

Insight Density

12.0 / 20

A few genuinely useful observations surface - the Harris AI champion structure and the weekend Claude CRM build - but the bulk of the episode is standard leadership fare about curiosity, humility, feedback culture, and execution discipline that experienced B2B operators will already know well.

“each business has its own AI champion and in some companies that champion then has departmental champions that can then uh, experiment and try things and see what everyone's doing”

“this gentleman just tried to build something using Claude. And later on that weekend he'd finished the core of the product. Now it still took a couple of weeks to refine.”

Originality

11.0 / 20

The Harris perpetual-ownership acquisition model and the per-business AI champion concept are the most distinctive ideas, but the broader leadership philosophy - embrace failure, have difficult conversations, be curious - is entirely conventional and recycled throughout the B2B leadership podcast genre.

“their mission is to buy companies and then they keep those companies and they carry on investing in them. They never sell them, which again is a very unusual thing”

“those relationships are what I m would call single threaded. You've got a person who knows a person”

Guest Caliber

17.0 / 20

Sue Thexton is a legitimate practitioner - founding UK employee at Adobe, parallel role at Macromedia, bootstrapped-to-acquisition journey at OneFile, and now a genuine group operator role at Harris overseeing a portfolio - giving her real credibility, though the scale and public prominence of the roles fall short of the top tier.

“I was the number one employee in the UK and ran that from my living room but you know, built that up over many years”

“did the same with another similar kind of software company in the creative space, Macromedia, that was then subsequently bought by Adobe”

Specificity & Evidence

13.0 / 20

Named companies (Adobe, Macromedia, OneFile, Harris, Salesforce, Claude) and a handful of concrete anecdotes provide some grounding, but there are zero quantitative metrics - no revenue figures, growth percentages, retention rates, or time-to-value data - leaving most claims unsubstantiated.

“doing simple things like code reviews that can take seconds instead of people, you know, spending a day or two on it”

“he one weekend uh, had been talking to one of the businesses and they were struggling because they were a small business. They didn't have a CRM technology that really gave them what they needed from a forecasting perspective, couldn't afford Salesforce.”

Conversational Craft

11.0 / 20

The host asks broadly relevant questions but repeatedly inserts her own anecdotes rather than probing the guest deeper, never challenges a single claim, misses obvious follow-ups (e.g. asking for metrics behind any growth story), and frequently validates instead of interrogating.

“I'm a skier. We're afraid of falling over, um, not just from hurting ourselves, but from looking silly”

“one of our team described how they've just started to um, they thought they'd write, you know, I've learned about AI, so let me have a go at something”

Standout episodes

  • Cultivating Curiosity to Become the Leader You Aspire to Be - with Sue Thexton, Harris Computer

    2025-10-21

    64

Rank over time

First period on the Index - history builds from here.

Episodes

1 scored on substance · 60 tracked in total.

  • Cultivating Curiosity to Become the Leader You Aspire to Be - with Sue Thexton, Harris Computer

    2025-10-21 · 42 min

    64 / 100
  • Empowering Teams Through Behavioural Change: Inside SSEN’s CI Journey

    2025-08-19 · 36 min

    Not yet scored
  • Culture by Design: How Tesco Made CI Everyone’s Business - with Anu Kalia, Tesco

    2025-07-15 · 31 min

    Not yet scored
  • Leading Transformation in the Age of AI - with Hayley Glasby-Ringham, KPMG

    2025-06-17 · 45 min

    Not yet scored
  • Inside NHS Leadership: Driving Everyday Excellence - with Richard Best, NHS

    2025-05-20 · 40 min

    Not yet scored

Frequently asked

What is Leading for Business Excellence's substance score?
Leading for Business Excellence scores 64.0 out of 100 for substance and ranks #2821 on The B2B Podcast Index. That puts it ahead of 55% of the B2B podcasts we rank and #323 of 1042 in Leadership. The score reflects insight density, originality, guest caliber, specificity and conversational craft across recent episodes - not downloads.
Is Leading for Business Excellence worth listening to?
Yes - Leading for Business Excellence outscores 55% of the B2B leadership podcasts and shows we rank on substance, so a leadership operator is likely to come away with something useful.
Who hosts Leading for Business Excellence?
Leading for Business Excellence is hosted by PMI - Process Management International.
How often does Leading for Business Excellence publish?
Leading for Business Excellence publishes weekly, has 136 episodes, released its most recent episode on 2025-10-21.
Which Leading for Business Excellence episode should I start with?
Our highest-scoring recent episode is "Cultivating Curiosity to Become the Leader You Aspire to Be - with Sue Thexton, Harris Computer" (64/100) - a good place to start.

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Frequently discusses

Companies, products and tools that come up most across this show's episodes.

pmi · 3PMI M · 2HarrisOneFileAdobeMacromediaChatGPTMicrosoft CopilotSSESSENNational ExpressBQFPERFORMTescoBQF AwardsFord Motor CompanyGEBT Group

Guests who've appeared

Sue ThextonAlex DonaldsonBen McCreadyAnu KaliaHayley Glasby-RinghamRichard Best

Topics this show covers

The themes that come up most across this show's episodes.

business transformationHarris ComputerOneFile (apprenticeship management software)Adobe UKMacromediaAI adoption in B2B softwareSoftware scaling frameworksOrganizational psychology and feedback cultureR&D productivity measurementAI champions and departmental experimentationContinuous improvementDaily huddlesbehavioral changePERFORM programScottish and Southern Electricity Networks (SSEN)connections and engineering departmentbootcamp simulationchange curve

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