Jon Myer Podcast

A handful of usable practitioner observations surface (governance as a people problem, trust-first adoption sequencing, time-to-provider targets) but they are buried under extended preamble, sports analogies, and promotional asides that consume significant runtime. Insight-per-minute is low for a 24-minute episode.

“None. Not one technology solution is solving a governance issue. Uh, um, because it's not the technology's problem.”

“I can't have a strategy without adoption or it's a failed strategy”

The blunt 'technology solves zero governance problems' framing and 'slow no over fast yes' heuristic are genuinely refreshing departures from conference-speak, but the rest of the episode recycles standard change-management and trust-first narratives found in any health-IT panel.

“None. Not one technology solution is solving a governance issue. Uh, um, because it's not the technology's problem.”

“I rather a slow no than a fast yes”

Nathaniel is a real, working CIO with clear operational ownership of a multi-site community health system - not a pure thought-leader - and he speaks from lived deployment experience. His scope is mid-market rather than enterprise scale, and the episode does not surface enough depth to demonstrate exceptional practitioner insight.

“54 million patients that community health centers see across the country. We're 1 in 7 in the entire country, but in rural health we're 1 in 3 with a cohort of 365 FTEs throughout our entire movement”

“if you don't pass our security requirements, it doesn't even get to my desk for review. And that's you got to have your SoC2, your high trust”

A few concrete numbers appear (54M patients, 1-in-7 nationally, 365 FTEs, 7-minute time-to-provider target, sub-5% robot error threshold) but most claims are asserted without supporting data, outcome metrics from actual deployments are entirely absent, and the 'primary care sees on average this amount of patients per day' formulation is literally left blank.

“54 million patients that community health centers see across the country. We're 1 in 7 in the entire country, but in rural health we're 1 in 3 with a cohort of 365 FTEs”

“primary care sees on average this amount of patients per day 24 to 21 and then we say how do I make that quick in a 15 minute touch point or 11 minute touch point”

The host lobs multi-part, leading questions, validates almost every answer with 'great question' or 'absolutely,' and closes with personal topics (robot surgery on yourself, kids' career paths) that yield zero operator value; the one moment the guest said something genuinely provocative ('None') was met with 'Okay' and no follow-up.

“Would you let a robot, uh, do a surgery on you in next three years?”

“That's a great question and I like the way that you put it”