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inTheir20s

Hosted by Landon Campbell

★5.0on Apple Podcasts · 23 recent reviews

Host Landon Campbell interviews the most influential people in the world about their 20s. Guests have included Steve Wozniak, Jason Calacanis, David Sacks, Cathy Bessant, Ev Williams, Beto O'Rourke, Chantel Jeffries, Mayor Francis Suarez, Dr. Meg Jay, Kat Cole, AJ Vaynerchuk, Sekou Kaalund, and Andy Dunn.

106 episodes · publishes weekly · latest 2023-03-20 · ~26 min/episode

Rank

#4086

Substance

57.0

/ 100

Breakdown

Scored 2026-07
Updated monthly

Startups & Founders rank

#594 of 926

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Across the index

#4086 of 6219

Substance

Top 66%

outscores 34% of the index

Why it scores where it does

inTheir20s ranks #4086 on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 57.0 out of 100, scored across 1 recent episode. It scores highest on guest caliber and specificity & evidence. Fred Hoch is a genuine practitioner who co-founded the Illinois Technology Association, launched TechNexus pre-1871, and was an early SaaS evangelist going toe-to-toe with Larry Ellison - real credentials. However, he is an ecosystem organiser rather than a founder who scaled a measurable product company, limiting his operational depth.

The five-dimension breakdown

Averaged across 1 recently scored episode, with cited evidence.

Insight Density

11.0 / 20

The episode is heavily padded with pleasantries, weather chat, and generic life advice. A handful of interesting anecdotes (Divine Intervention's collapse, SaaS evangelism vs. Ellison) emerge, but the ratio of novel ideas to filler is low and most 'insights' are standard entrepreneurial wisdom.

“I don't believe that there's any substitute for hard work. Just isn't. There's no shortcuts.”

“you got to learn to say no. Right? You could. And I'm his fault of. Anyway, this is in, uh, my 30s is I could spend every single night of the week out going to an event, getting free pizza, meeting some people.”

Originality

10.0 / 20

Nearly all the frameworks recycled: hustle, work-life harmony vs. balance, travel in your 20s, quality over quantity in networking. The Michael Jordan/Steph Curry analogy for Chicago is mildly fresh but the underlying advice is well-worn, and no genuinely contrarian positions are staked.

“Michael Jordan is the greatest basketball player of all time. Um, you're never going to be as good as Michael Jordan. You're always going to be in favor if you're trying to lead up to him. Um, so be Steph Curry.”

“I don't know how not to work 10, 12 hours a day.”

Guest Caliber

14.0 / 20

Fred Hoch is a genuine practitioner who co-founded the Illinois Technology Association, launched TechNexus pre-1871, and was an early SaaS evangelist going toe-to-toe with Larry Ellison - real credentials. However, he is an ecosystem organiser rather than a founder who scaled a measurable product company, limiting his operational depth.

“we coined the phrase software as a Service. Our organization, SaaS. And uh, we went out and then I would go and sort of talk about it from a business perspective. So we would go out to the Bay Area, I'd go and get yelled at by Larry Ellison”

“I started a number of software companies. This is early days of Internet, sort of late 90s. Uh, I started a test company and a security company and a warranty company.”

Specificity & Evidence

12.0 / 20

A few concrete specifics lift the score - the Divine Intervention failure story, the 2007 TechNexus founding date, 38 countries visited, the SaaS coinage claim - but the episode largely stays anecdotal with no portfolio data, market metrics, or hard outcome numbers to validate claims.

“all of Chicago got behind one company, a company you may have heard of called, uh, Divine Intervention... everybody put money into this company. And so when I bust, it turned out to be sort of a house of cards.”

“early 2007, uh, long before 1871, long for anything, um, was simply meant to be a place for people, a common watering hole.”

Conversational Craft

10.0 / 20

The host rarely challenges the guest, frequently agrees and echoes back what was just said, and spends notable airtime promoting his own fund and events. Questions are standard podcast boilerplate with almost no probing follow-ups when genuinely interesting threads appear.

“I think my second winter here was the, uh, polar vortex... Negative 30. So, uh, that woke me up.”

“That's a really great advice... That's really, really great advice.”

Standout episodes

  • #113 - What was Fred Hoch from TechNexus doing in his 20s

    2023-03-20

    57

Rank over time

First period on the Index - history builds from here.

Episodes

1 scored on substance · 60 tracked in total.

  • #113 - What was Fred Hoch from TechNexus doing in his 20s

    2023-03-20 · 38 min

    57 / 100

What listeners say on Apple Podcasts

★★★★★
Love it
Love the format and incredible interviews. Very big guests every 10 episodes. Check out Landon’s other podcast, Venturing in VC.

- ponderluster

★★★★★
A MUST LISTEN. Fresh and new Points of View
Landon is absolutely a natural behind the mic. His fresh perspective and this unique format is exactly what the podcast space was missing for young founders. I highly encourage you to subscribe and pay close attention to what Landon is doing.

- #KDC16

Frequently asked

What is inTheir20s's substance score?
inTheir20s scores 57.0 out of 100 for substance and ranks #4086 on The B2B Podcast Index. That puts it ahead of 34% of the B2B podcasts we rank and #594 of 926 in Startups & Founders. The score reflects insight density, originality, guest caliber, specificity and conversational craft across recent episodes - not downloads.
Is inTheir20s worth listening to?
inTheir20s is ranked on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 57.0/100. See the five-dimension breakdown above to judge whether it fits what you're after.
Who hosts inTheir20s?
inTheir20s is hosted by Landon Campbell.
How often does inTheir20s publish?
inTheir20s publishes weekly, has 106 episodes, released its most recent episode on 2023-03-20.
Which inTheir20s episode should I start with?
Our highest-scoring recent episode is "#113 - What was Fred Hoch from TechNexus doing in his 20s" (57/100) - a good place to start.

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