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In the Business of Change

Hosted by In the Business of Change

The Magazine of Social Enterprise & Entrepreneurship

95 episodes · publishes monthly · latest 2026-05-31 · ~23 min/episode

Rank

#2544

Substance

64.0

/ 100

Breakdown

Scored 2026-07
Updated monthly

Startups & Founders rank

#382 of 923

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Across the index

#2544 of 6183

Substance

Top 41%

outscores 59% of the index

Why it scores where it does

In the Business of Change ranks #2544 on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 64.0 out of 100, scored across 1 recent episode. It scores highest on guest caliber and specificity & evidence. Ed Dugger III is a genuine 30-year practitioner who built and harvested multiple funds and created a corporate business-development initiative that moved tens of millions of dollars - he is a real operator, not a circuit speaker - but the conversation fails to surface the depth of his track record, named portfolio successes, or hard-won lessons at any meaningful level.

The five-dimension breakdown

Averaged across 1 recently scored episode, with cited evidence.

Insight Density

12.0 / 20

The episode contains a handful of actionable ideas - older founder thesis as risk mitigation, intentionally capping portfolio at 13 with max 4 per partner, and the Co-Pilot fundraising program - but the majority of runtime is personal narrative, ancestry storytelling, and SVI promotion that yields nothing an experienced B2B operator could act on.

“Our founders tend to be older. Oh our average in founder uh, is 47... Typically have anywhere from uh, a minimum of 10 years and more like 15 to 20 of um, real world experience”

“we can cut down by at least half the amount of time that they spend on fundraising, um, by letting us uh, give them our experience”

Originality

12.0 / 20

The older-founder-as-risk-mitigation angle is mildly contrarian versus the typical Silicon Valley 20-something founder worship, and consciously rejecting unicorn hunting in favour of portfolio-wide success is differentiated, but neither idea is developed with enough rigour or novelty to stand out to a sophisticated impact-investing or VC-adjacent reader.

“unlike venture funds today, which aspire to having unicorns... we were looking for one success after another”

“making a profit while making a difference. So those things were equal”

Guest Caliber

17.0 / 20

Ed Dugger III is a genuine 30-year practitioner who built and harvested multiple funds and created a corporate business-development initiative that moved tens of millions of dollars - he is a real operator, not a circuit speaker - but the conversation fails to surface the depth of his track record, named portfolio successes, or hard-won lessons at any meaningful level.

“my 30 year sort of career in venture capital has always had a focus on founders of color”

“I had been doing venture capital for 25 years, uh, under the name of UNC Ventures”

Specificity & Evidence

13.0 / 20

The episode offers a thin but real layer of numbers - 13 portfolio companies, 4 per partner, founders aged 35 - 60 averaging 47, 1 - 50 annual meetings, sub-2% VC allocation to women and sub-1% to Black founders - but returns data, named portfolio companies, and outcome metrics are entirely absent, leaving most claims unverifiable.

“less than 2%. And but for founders of color, collectively, I mean black founders, it's more like 1% or less”

“we have 13 intentionally because we don't want to have more than four, uh, portfolio companies assigned to each of the partners”

Conversational Craft

10.0 / 20

Both hosts default to admiration and affirmation throughout, interrupting with 'wonderful,' 'amazing,' and 'remarkable' rather than probing on returns, specific failures, or the basis for claims; one co-host spends noticeable airtime on his own career anecdotes, further diluting the interview's depth.

“How fortunate are they? That's wonderful. That's really wonderful.”

“I am positive about that. I am delighted”

Standout episodes

  • Inclusive Capital: Edward Dugger III of Reinventure Capital

    2026-05-31

    64

Rank over time

First period on the Index - history builds from here.

Episodes

1 scored on substance · 60 tracked in total.

  • Inclusive Capital: Edward Dugger III of Reinventure Capital

    2026-05-31 · 30 min

    64 / 100

Frequently asked

What is In the Business of Change's substance score?
In the Business of Change scores 64.0 out of 100 for substance and ranks #2544 on The B2B Podcast Index. That puts it ahead of 59% of the B2B podcasts we rank and #382 of 923 in Startups & Founders. The score reflects insight density, originality, guest caliber, specificity and conversational craft across recent episodes - not downloads.
Is In the Business of Change worth listening to?
Yes - In the Business of Change outscores 59% of the B2B startups & founders podcasts and shows we rank on substance, so a startups & founders operator is likely to come away with something useful.
Who hosts In the Business of Change?
In the Business of Change is hosted by In the Business of Change.
How often does In the Business of Change publish?
In the Business of Change publishes monthly, has 95 episodes, released its most recent episode on 2026-05-31.
Which In the Business of Change episode should I start with?
Our highest-scoring recent episode is "Inclusive Capital: Edward Dugger III of Reinventure Capital" (64/100) - a good place to start.

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Edward Dugger III

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Impact investingVenture capitalReinventure CapitalUNC VenturesSeries A and seed financingPete Hart (Harvard recruiter)Marsh Carter (State Street CEO)Business Collaborativeportfolio company engagement modelfounder age demographics

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