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EP1012: The current trends in B2B payments for 2026

IBS Intelligence Global FinTech Interviews · 2026-06-15 · 13 min

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Key moments - from our scoring

Substance score

59 / 100

Five dimensions, 20 points each

Insight Density12 / 20
Originality11 / 20
Guest Caliber13 / 20
Specificity & Evidence10 / 20
Conversational Craft13 / 20

The consumerization of B2B payments isn't about oversimplification but rather applying the speed and user experience consumers expect from their digital devices to business payment workflows. Pat Bermium explains how this differs fundamentally from consumer finance: B2B transactions involve complex procurement processes, purchase orders, and multi-party approvals that must be streamlined without compromising safety. A major shift is straight-through processing, where buyers can choose their payment method (card, bank transfer, financed options) while suppliers receive payment faster and more consistently. Digital identity and KYC remain significant bottlenecks - onboarding suppliers for merchant accounts can take weeks, compared to hours for consumer accounts. The upcoming Digital ID Act from government should establish legal identifiers for both companies and authorized personnel, accelerating this. ISO 20022 standardization, now implemented, is already reducing onboarding friction by creating consistency in payment messaging. AI is reshaping the landscape through autonomous sourcing agents that can search, match, and recommend suppliers, though trust and security guardrails are still being developed. Bermium notes that compliance benefits, data-rich transactions, and automation-ready infrastructure are emerging, but AI-powered payment authorization on behalf of users remains a complex unsolved problem requiring new security frameworks.

Key takeaways

  • →Straight-through processing lets buyers choose payment methods while suppliers receive faster, automated payments regardless of the underlying payment rail.
  • →KYC onboarding for B2B merchant accounts still takes weeks compared to hours for consumers, but Digital ID Act and ISO 20022 standardization are accelerating the process.
  • →AI sourcing agents can automate supplier discovery and matching, but require explicit authorization before executing purchases and payment decisions.
  • →Digital identity must verify both the company and the authorized individual making the payment, creating more complex compliance than consumer-only KYC.
  • →Security guardrails around AI in payments are still being built by security vendors, creating uncertainty around how AI-powered payment authorization will evolve.

In this episode

  1. 1Consumerization of B2B Payments
  2. 2Digital Identity and KYC Challenges
  3. 3Straight-Through Processing as Game Changer
  4. 4ISO 20022 Standard Impact on Cash Flow
  5. 5AI Transformation in Payment Processes
  6. 6AI Agents for Sourcing and Procurement
  7. 72026 Predictions: Automation and Integration

Mentioned

AdFlexIBS IntelligencePat BermiumRobin AndlerDigital ID ActISO 20022

Guests

Pat Bermium

Topics in this episode

KYC (Know Your Customer)Digital identityISO 20022B2Bstraight-through processingAdFlexconsumerization of B2B paymentsAI sourcing agentsmerchant account onboardingDigital ID Actpayment authorizationProcurementtrendspaymentsconsumerisation

Questions this episode answers

What is straight-through processing in B2B payments?

Straight-through processing lets the buyer choose the payment method (card, bank transfer, or financed options) and make the payment on the supplier's behalf, rather than the supplier initiating it. This automates the payment process and lets suppliers receive payment faster while buyers can build financing into card payments.

How long does KYC onboarding take for B2B merchant accounts versus consumer accounts?

B2B merchant account onboarding can take weeks or longer because it requires verifying the company, beneficial owners, and sanctioned list checks, whereas personal consumer accounts open in hours or a day due to lower risk profiles.

How is ISO 20022 transforming B2B cash flow?

ISO 20022 creates a standardized message format for payment information, allowing faster conversion to actual payments, quicker onboarding, and more consistent data handling across payment workflows.

What role will AI play in B2B payments by the end of 2026?

AI is becoming embedded in sourcing and CRM systems to automatically search, match, and recommend suppliers, but requires explicit user authorization before executing purchases. Systems without AI integration built in will struggle to survive competitively.

What is the Digital ID Act and how will it affect B2B payments?

The Digital ID Act, coming in the next couple of years from government, will establish legal identifiers proving both company identity and authorized personnel status, helping accelerate KYC and payment approval processes.

What our scoring noted

Our reviewer’s read on each dimension, with quotes from the episode.

Insight Density

12 / 20

The episode covers multiple B2B payment trends (consumerization, straight-through processing, ISO 20022, AI) with reasonable depth on how they function, but relies heavily on general explanations rather than novel insights. The host does push back on digital identity claims and challenges the AI hype, which adds some substance, but much of the content is descriptive rather than revealing non-obvious dynamics. The guest recycles familiar concepts like 'agentization' and 'automation' without deep interrogation of second- or third-order effects.

So we're kind of bringing the um the consumer world into the um business world. In other words, we'd take the best bits of it and hopefully make the experience better.
Straight through processing is um a game changer in the way it works. Instead of the card or the payment being transmitted to the buyer uh to the supplier, the it is actually made by the buyer on the supplier's behalf.

Originality

11 / 20

The framing of consumerization and straight-through processing is standard fintech discourse. While the guest does offer some contrarian flavor (calling AI 'the most overhyped thing'), the rest of the conversation tracks well-worn paths: KYC friction, ISO 20022 standardization, and AI agents automating sourcing. The discussion of trust and security concerns around AI payments is somewhat fresher, but underexplored and not distinctly novel.

It doesn't mean it's it's making it simplistic, it's just making it work with real people who are used to working in the in with their personal kind of digital devices
Uh, but the key thing here is um authentication authorization. How do we know that data is correct? So do we have a source of truth? We don't quite have all that in place yet.

Guest Caliber

13 / 20

Pat Bermium is a CEO of a B2B payments company (AdFlex), which indicates relevant operational experience in the space. However, the transcript reveals limited concrete detail about AdFlex's business model, scale, customer outcomes, or proprietary insights. The guest speaks knowledgeably about industry mechanics but doesn't provide evidence of exceptional depth or first-principles thinking that would justify a higher score. A returning guest suggests some credibility.

You're listening to the IBS IVs podcast. With me today is Pat Bermium, Chief Executive Officer of AdFlex. And a welcome return to the podcast for Pat.
We're working with acquirers to try and make that quicker.

Specificity & Evidence

10 / 20

The episode is light on concrete examples, metrics, and data. The guest mentions ISO 20022 (a real standard) and alludes to onboarding timelines (weeks vs. hours/days), but provides no specific customer names, transaction volumes, cost savings, or measurable outcomes. The sourcing agent example (steel pipes, wedding planning) is illustrative but generic. No revenue figures, adoption rates, or performance benchmarks are cited.

For example, if somebody uh if a supplier wants to open up a merchant account, it can take weeks and weeks of um to in and throwing to get it. And that's that's compared to a personal account, which I could open in a couple of hours, a day?
I mean, for example, you know, steel pipes, uh, you know, 30 mil diameter, somebody has to go off and source it

Conversational Craft

13 / 20

The host asks targeted follow-up questions and occasionally pushes back (e.g., 'surely the ability to access digital information should make that faster?' and probing digital identity limits). However, the questioning lacks sharpness; the host often restates rather than interrogates, accepts vague answers without drilling deeper, and moves through topics quickly without exploring tensions or contradictions. The flow is competent but safe - rarely does the host challenge the guest's assumptions or demand specifics.

You may be working with acquirers to try and make that quicker, but surely the ability to access digital information and rich data should of itself make that process faster.
What do you see transforming B2B payments in the rest of 2026?

Conversation analysis

Computed from the transcript - who did the talking, and the words that came up most.

Most-used words

payment14payments10process9different7card7digital6consumer6making5world5whole5source5identity5supplier5quicker5last4happening4

Episode notes

Pat Bermingham, CEO, Adflex We review the top trends that will transform how businesses make and take payments in the modern world. Robin Amlôt of IBS Intelligence speaks to Pat Bermingham, CEO of UK-based B2B digital payment processor Adflex. The company is Europe’s leading processor of commercial card payments, processing over 7 million transactions a year for more than 4,000 businesses. Among the topics discussed: the consumerisation of B2B payments, digital identity, ISO 20022, straight-through processing and the role of agentic AI.

Full transcript

13 min

Transcribed and scored by The B2B Podcast Index.

I'm Robin Andler of IBS Intelligence. You're listening to the IBS IVs podcast. With me today is Pat Bermium, Chief Executive Officer of AdFlex. And a welcome return to the podcast for Pat.

So hello again, Pat. Let's start with what we're talking about business payment trends. And the point I wish to start on is the consumerization of B2B payments. What do we mean by consumerization?

Yes, consumerization. It doesn't mean it's it's making it simplistic, it's just making it work with real people who are used to working in the in with their personal kind of digital devices, all this kind of stuff. So we're kind of bringing the um the consumer world into the um business world. In other words, we'd take the best bits of it and hopefully make the experience better.

It's not just the best bits, it's perhaps also the newest bits, because what we've seen happen in retail finance over the course of the last five to ten years was not necessarily always being mirrored by what was happening in B2B finance. That's correct. I mean the financial models are very different. I mean, a consumer sees something, wants it, pays for it, gets it.

Whereas in the B2B world, it's somewhat different. Um there could be a whole kind of process behind the scenes to source the item, to raise a procurement process, uh purchase order, and so on and so forth. Uh so this is the difficult bit, is making the payment fit in there seamlessly and safely. Uh, but there are kind of steps that we can take uh to make that easy, easier.

All right. Well, how is the technology changing the way B2B payments are made? I'm thinking in particular of the digital identity. How is digital identity changing the way payment approvals are being done?

Yes, well, firstly I'll say that it's different that digital identity, you know, discussion is really gummy about people in the real world, not in a kind of consumer, sorry, in a consumer space and not in the business world, where the business is um more reliant on do I is this the real company, which brings in kind of identity for the company as well as the person that's making the the approval to make the payment. Onboarding is really down to KYC. KYC traditionally has taken a long time.

For example, if somebody uh if a supplier wants to open up a merchant account, it can take weeks and weeks of um to in and throwing to get it. And that's that's compared to a personal account, which I could open in a couple of hours, a day? Even quicker, yes, because um in the consumer space, it's very, very quick because the risk profile is different, you know, because you're dealing with individual people who who pose a smaller risk to the whole organization. But if it's a business and it's large payments, that's a lot of difference.

So therefore, there's a lot more KYC. And simply because you're not KYC in just the person, you're KYC in the organization they're within. Are they a beneficial owner? Are they on any sanctioned lists, etc.?

So it's kind of a different process. And it is slowly being speeded up, but it it is very much a problem of today, where um somebody to be on boarded to get a merchant account can take weeks. And we're we are working with acquirers to try and make that quicker. You may be working with acquirers to try and make that quicker, but surely the ability to access digital information and rich data should of itself make that process faster.

It should do, yes. Uh, but the key thing here is um authentication authorization. How do we know that data is correct? So do we have a source of truth?

We don't quite have all that in place yet. I mean, the Digital ID Act that's coming in in the next couple of years from the government is gonna kind of overlap onto the business side as well, because there will be a structure in place that companies will be able to take advantage of. I mean, for example, legal identifiers, um, which that would be kind of proof that you are the company and as well as you are the authorised person within that company. So, what's happening right now in B2B payments?

Um, there's quite a lot happening. The biggest um story really is straight-through processing. Straight through processing is um a game changer in the way it works. Instead of the card or the payment being transmitted to the buyer uh to the supplier, the it is actually made by the buyer on the supplier's behalf.

So it doesn't matter if it's a card or if it's a bank transfer or whatever. The fact is the supplier has been relegated to delivering the service and receiving the payment. The buyer, on the other hand, can choose which payment method they want. And typically, if they're using a card, they will have something like a line of finance built into it.

So that gives um a lot of advances with cards, and also the payment can be made quicker to the uh supplier. So it does automate, it does a really quick way of automating the payment process in and simplifying it. Moving on, I thought I'd put this issue to bed. Obviously, I haven't, because it still keeps cropping up in conversations.

ISO 2022, which was implemented as of November last year. How is that transforming business cash flow? Indirectly, um, if if I could just deviate from the question, uh what it's done, it's created a standard. That's number one, that's the most important thing.

Whereas where we are working with companies that want to make payments, there is a plethora of standards, different ways of getting us back that payment information. If they are able to send us a 20 oh 22 message, we're able to act upon it really quickly and convert that into a payment. So therefore, you know, onboarding is quicker, the kind of the data is more consistent. It's just a win all the way, all the way round.

What's the role of AI? I have to ask that. Do we hate it or love it? Um that's not this this is not the forum for that.

But um, yes, AI, probably the most overhyped thing this last 10 years, I guess. Um, there are some really good um things coming out of AI, but it and it's gonna completely transform the way payments are made. But that's without doubt. And I'm not just talking about agentisation where you know something is going to go off and automatically make payments for you on your behalf.

It's how the whole process interacts. Currently, we're going from entering a card from a piece of plastic or a wallet, which is effectively just still a card, and we're still suffering from identity theft, you know, to use that card. Someone steals your card, you can't make the payment. They'll become more seamless where AI will be able to be a custodian of you and act on your behalf.

Now that's the tricky bit, uh, which has not been kind of completely solved yet. Do you trust AI to make payments on your behalf? That's a big question. And the the other problem is that security companies, because of the threat of AI, is so high outside of payments to the very existence of the company from ransomware attacks and all this kind of stuff, that there are a lot of security tools now that are kind of building their own guardrails around any AI stuff that may be inserted into that process.

So we don't know exactly how that's going to pan out. There's a trust relationship required with the company, the payer, the the the actual security company that is is protecting your your network, your business. It's it's a whole different problem that's been kind of created over the last couple of years that we're still coming to terms with, I think. On a cheerful note, there are benefits that we've seen already, though, in the uh data-rich transactions that are now possible, automation-ready infrastructure, and compliance and transparency benefits, provided people follow the right steps.

Yes, you're right. I mean, one of the big things is sourcing uh for companies if they want to buy, you know, steel pipes, uh, you know, 30 mil diameter, somebody has to go off and source it and then compare and do all this sort of stuff. All that can be kind of agentised now, where you can tell AI to say, I am a sourcing agent for this company, I want to source the follow-in goods and give it a whole clear prompt of what to do. Then what the agent will do then will go and search, match, and recommend the best route forward.

Where in the early stages there'll be, do you wish to buy these now? And then you have to give the authority to say yes, so I would like to purchase these now. Then it will be which which ERP system do you want it to go through? Like, you know, are you going to be raising a purchase order, a requisition, the invoice?

Is it going to be paid on order or paid on delivery? So all these kind of decisions can be optimized by AI. All right, that's the decision-making process. And that's that's a a work in progress, I guess, is what we can say that uh at this point.

Yes, it's evolving rapidly, you know, week to week. If you just sat down and listened to all the the news coming from the payment industry and other industries, it's just a lot of information out there, a lot of kind of ideas and stuff. So it's going to take some time to consolidate and be become part of the infrastructure. Well, you say it's going to take some time, Pat, but the one thing I have noticed in recent months, even, if not recent years, is that I used to ask people the question like, what does the business look like in five years' time?

These days we're talking about what does it look like at the end of the year? Yeah. What do you see Which is crazy? What do you what do you see transforming B2B payments in the rest of 2026?

Um, I would say that the the agency thing is becoming big. I mean, from the consumer side of it, then you know, somebody planning a wedding or a party, it's perfect for that, you know, where you know, go and source me the food, the flowers, the tables, chairs, etc., and even the transport. Um, so it's gonna put, you know, kind of wedding planners under a lot of pressure.

From a business perspective, um, as the example I gave earlier, then I think it's gonna be more inbuilt into these sourcing and CRMs, which we're already seeing that. So therefore, when you're trying to do something, the inbuilt AI is then now offering to help you, where soon that'll become more to the forefront. And I'd say that's that's happening as we speak. Um, it's gonna be, you know, if if there's there are no systems that don't have that kind of integration built in if they're if if they're gonna survive.

So by the end of this year, we're gonna see a lot more automation in the payment process. Pat Birmingham, Chief Executive Officer of Adflex, thank you very much. You're welcome.

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