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Growth + Exit

Hosted by Susan Kearney and Heather Bennett

Listed under Business › Management, Business › Entrepreneurship

This is the Growth + Exit Podcast, where owners of privately held, middle-market companies talk about founding, scaling, and exiting their businesses successfully.

61 episodes · publishes weekly · latest 2026-08-12 · ~40 min/episode

Rank

#1096

Substance

64.0

/ 100

Breakdown

Scored 2026-08
Updated monthly

Marketing rank

#135 of 224

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Across the index

#1096 of 1878

Substance

Top 58%

outscores 42% of the index

Why it scores where it does

Growth + Exit ranks #1096 on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 64.0 out of 100, scored across 2 recent episodes. It scores highest on guest caliber and insight density. Jeff Aplin is a credible second-generation operator who has successfully grown a family business from inception through PE partnership. He holds an MBA, worked at Deloitte, and has won awards (Business in Calgary Leaders, EY Entrepreneur of the Year finalist). However, he is not a household name or recognized thought leader in his space, and his company ($110M revenue) is respectable but not exceptional by middle-market standards. His experience is directly relevant but not at the top tier of business leader caliber.

The five-dimension breakdown

Averaged across 2 recently scored episodes, with cited evidence.

Insight Density

13.5 / 20

The episode delivers solid practical wisdom around family business succession and culture transformation, particularly the 'hats' communication framework and client-centric model. However, much of the content consists of broad principles (importance of team, listening to customers, meditation) rather than dense, non-obvious insights. Several segments are repetitive recap and the episode lacks the specificity or counterintuitive thinking that would push this higher.

“we ended up with the system which was just the hats. Like you know on Wednesday we're going to have a business partner meeting so we'll put our business partner hat on. But on Saturday the family barbecue were family.”

“we brought in um, you know, a model which we call the client centric model, which was really selling as a team sport.”

Originality

11.5 / 20

The core ideas presented - separating family and business relationships, building strong teams, listening to customers, culture transformation - are well-established in business literature and podcasts. While the 'hats' framework is a nice personal articulation, it's not fundamentally novel. The guest acknowledges reading Tom Dean and John Maxwell, and the overall thinking reflects conventional wisdom rather than fresh or contrarian perspectives.

“we pretty early on realized and were aware that we needed a communication system”

“what do you like about us? What do we do well that you like about our service or our product?”

Guest Caliber

14.0 / 20

Jeff Aplin is a credible second-generation operator who has successfully grown a family business from inception through PE partnership. He holds an MBA, worked at Deloitte, and has won awards (Business in Calgary Leaders, EY Entrepreneur of the Year finalist). However, he is not a household name or recognized thought leader in his space, and his company ($110M revenue) is respectable but not exceptional by middle-market standards. His experience is directly relevant but not at the top tier of business leader caliber.

“Jeff Aplin is the CEO of Aplin, a national Canadian staffing firm recognized as a Platinum member of Canada's Best Managed Companies”

“He previously worked as a management consultant with Deloitte, specializing in strategy and operations”

Specificity & Evidence

12.0 / 20

The episode includes some concrete details: $110M annual revenue, 75% recurring revenue from temporary/contract hours, 10-year buyout timeline, 8 offices across Canada, acquisitions from 2021-2025. However, most strategic decisions and outcomes lack specifics - no named acquisition targets, no dollar figures for deals, no concrete metrics on culture transformation results, no specific numbers on organic growth or margins. The due diligence discussion is notably vague despite having specific potential (landlord lease subordination is an outlier).

“we're about 75% of our, you know, 110 million annual revenue is, is reoccurring in the form of temporary and contract billable hours”

“we made a number of moves just, just buying uh, other, other companies to accelerate growth coming out of the pandemic”

Conversational Craft

13.0 / 20

Host Helena Bennett asks generally sound questions and shows familiarity with relevant concepts (Tom Dean's book, Newport resources), but the conversation rarely pushes back or challenges the guest's assertions. Follow-ups are often soft confirmations or expansions rather than probing queries. When the guest mentions 'downward spiral' or 'difficult people decisions,' the host doesn't drill into specifics or ask for real examples. The due diligence discussion is an exception where she prompts more detail, but overall this reads as a friendly narrative interview rather than investigative dialogue.

“Yeah, there's the two things you mentioned I think are really important to point out.”

“I love that. Communication is such an important part of that.”

Standout episodes

  • The Strategic Plan for Second-Generation Leaders Wanting To Buy and Grow a Family Business

    2026-08-12

    78
  • How To Build a High-Trust Marketing Agency

    2026-07-01

    50

Rank over time

2 periods tracked.

Episodes

2 scored on substance · 61 tracked in total.

  • The Strategic Plan for Second-Generation Leaders Wanting To Buy and Grow a Family Business

    2026-08-12 · 37 min

    78 / 100
  • How To Build a High-Trust Marketing Agency

    2026-07-01 · 54 min

    50 / 100

Frequently asked

What is Growth + Exit's substance score?
Growth + Exit scores 64.0 out of 100 for substance and ranks #1096 on The B2B Podcast Index. That puts it ahead of 42% of the B2B podcasts we rank and #135 of 224 in Marketing. The score reflects insight density, originality, guest caliber, specificity and conversational craft across recent episodes - not downloads.
Is Growth + Exit worth listening to?
Growth + Exit is ranked on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 64.0/100. See the five-dimension breakdown above to judge whether it fits what you're after.
Who hosts Growth + Exit?
Growth + Exit is hosted by Susan Kearney and Heather Bennett.
How often does Growth + Exit publish?
Growth + Exit publishes weekly, has 61 episodes, released its most recent episode on 2026-08-12.
Which Growth + Exit episode should I start with?
Our highest-scoring recent episode is "The Strategic Plan for Second-Generation Leaders Wanting To Buy and Grow a Family Business" (78/100) - a good place to start.

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Steady Growth PartnersNewport LLCApple

Guests who've appeared

Jeff AplinAri Paratinsky

Topics this show covers

The themes that come up most across this show's episodes.

Aplin (staffing firm)Patrick Lencioni team frameworkTom Dean's Every Family's BusinessClient-centric sales modelRecurring revenue business modelPrivate equity partnershipTemporary and contract staffingFounder-friendly Capital ConferenceDeloitte Entrepreneur SummitPrivate capital marketsPaid media advertisingSteady Growth Partnerspaid searchpaid socialmarketing agency leadershipauthenticity in client relationshipsemployee training and philosophyexpert network staffing

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