Building Your Global Advantage - The Rise of GCC's
Going Global · 2025-09-26 · 31 min
Substance score
43 / 100
Five dimensions, 20 points each
What our scoring noted
Our reviewer’s read on each dimension, with quotes from the episode.
Insight Density
The episode delivers some real market statistics and a useful GCC vs. outsourcing distinction, but the bulk of the content is definitional and introductory - aimed at audiences who have never heard the term GCC. The 90-day setup framework is the most operationally useful element, but it stays surface-level.
there are more than 1700 active GCCs across India...64 billion dollars, the current annual revenues from these GCCs...by 2030, the projected revenue is 120 billion dollars
the whole transition takes around 90 days or three months, and we divide it into three parts
Originality
The only genuinely contrarian point is the preference for tier 2/3 cities over the obvious Bangalore/Hyderabad choices, grounded in attrition and cost arguments. Everything else - India's talent pool, AI tailwinds, GCC-vs-outsourcing control narrative - is recycled market commentary with no first-principles analysis.
I don't think that's the smart move, to be brutally honest with you. I think the smart move is in the smaller cities, the tier two, the tier three cities. Firstly, obviously, costs are lower, there's less less attrition
Before it used to be seen as outsourcing, ship off the low-cost work. But things have changed over the last, well, five, 10 years rapidly
Guest Caliber
Arun Mehra is a genuine practitioner who has built his own GCC and speaks from lived experience - rare and credible. However, the session is explicitly a promotional webinar for Samara Global's services, which limits candour and depth; Deepak Madolia's role and credentials are never clearly established.
our AI center that we've set up is solving problems that we've identified in our businesses in the UK
when I set up my own GCC back in back in a few years back, it took much longer, okay, because I didn't know what I was doing
Specificity & Evidence
The episode cites several named market figures (1,700 GCCs, $64B revenue, 1.9M professionals, 70% of new GCCs in India, $120B by 2030 projection) and references real companies (Rolls-Royce Hyderabad, DAZN, HCA Healthcare, Renault). However, sourcing is vague ('the NASCOM, the FICI, the global reports'), the 90-day process lacks granular cost or headcount benchmarks, and company examples are name-dropped without depth.
70% of the new GCCs are being established in India
more than 1.9 million professionals work under these GCCs
Conversational Craft
The host asks only broad, setup-style questions and never challenges a claim, follows up on a vague assertion, or introduces any productive tension. The session reads as a scripted promotional event; the host repeatedly affirms guest answers with 'that was actually a great insight' and 'totally agree,' foreclosing any genuine interrogation.
So, what is the current market right now when you look at it? How big is the GCC industry?
So, in 90 days, guys, you could probably have a department set up in India or could be an entirely new company, that is also possible.
Conversation analysis
Computed from the transcript - who did the talking, and the verbal tics along the way.
Filler words
Episode notes
The global business landscape is witnessing a revolutionary shift as UK firms increasingly establish their own Global Capability Centers (GCCs) in India. This strategic move transcends traditional outsourcing models, creating fully-owned innovation hubs that align perfectly with parent company culture while leveraging India's exceptional talent pool. As Arun Mehra, CEO of Samara Global, explains in this eye-opening discussion, GCCs have evolved dramatically from mere back-office operations to comprehensive capability centers developing cutting-edge technology and AI-powered solutions. With over 1,700 active GCCs generating $64 billion annually and employing 1.9 million professionals, India has emerged as the premier destination for companies seeking global competitive advantage. What makes this trend particularly exciting is how it's democratizing global operations. While GCCs were traditionally the domain of multinational giants like Rolls-Royce or Google, they're increasingly accessible to small and medium-sized enterprises.
Full transcript
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1 00:00:20,170 - > 00:00:21,289 Speaker 01: Okay, hi everybody. 2 00:00:21,289 - > 00:00:24,969 Welcome to this live stream of our first of seven webinar 3 00:00:24,969 - > 00:00:25,289 series. 4 00:00:25,289 - > 00:00:28,890 I'm here with Arun Mehra, CEO of Samara Global and Deep 5 00:00:28,890 - > 00:00:29,050 ak Madolia . 6 00:00:29,769 - > 00:00:30,650 How are you guys today? 7 00:00:31,449 - > 00:00:32,010 Speaker 00: Hi, Arun. 8 00:00:32,010 - > 00:00:32,890 All good, thanks. 9 00:00:32,890 - > 00:00:33,289 All good. 10 00:00:33,289 - > 00:00:33,850 All good. 11 00:00:34,409 - > 00:00:41,850 Well in our first of seven webinar series today, the first 12 00:00:41,850 - > 00:00:44,650 thing we're going to be going through is, well, as the title 13 00:00:44,650 - > 00:00:48,410 you can see is why UK firms are building their own GCCs in 14 00:00:48,410 - > 00:00:48,810 India. 15 00:00:48,810 - > 00:00:52,170 So, guys, if you could give me like a short and sweet answer 16 00:00:52,170 - > 00:00:55,689 for the audience, first off, what is a GCC and why are UK 17 00:00:55,689 - > 00:00:57,530 firms going to India for this? 18 00:00:57,850 - > 00:01:00,649 Speaker 00: Okay, let me give my my kind of tuppence worth. 19 00:01:00,649 - > 00:01:00,969 Okay. 20 00:01:00,969 - > 00:01:02,570 So hi, I'm Arun. 21 00:01:02,570 - > 00:01:07,849 And we only saw just last week, I think Rolls-Royce, a large UK 22 00:01:07,849 - > 00:01:10,409 company, announced that they're going to do a GC, they open up 23 00:01:10,409 - > 00:01:12,569 their first GCC in Hyderabad in India. 24 00:01:12,569 - > 00:01:14,569 And so what does that actually mean? 25 00:01:14,569 - > 00:01:18,009 So historically, GCC's global capability centers is what it 26 00:01:18,009 - > 00:01:21,930 means, is that they were they would be allowed to they would 27 00:01:21,930 - > 00:01:23,530 be their back office effectively. 28 00:01:23,530 - > 00:01:23,770 Okay. 29 00:01:23,770 - > 00:01:27,289 Accounting, HR, the back office type of stuff would be 30 00:01:27,289 - > 00:01:30,090 happening, basic processing work, that type of thing would 31 00:01:30,090 - > 00:01:30,969 have been historic. 32 00:01:30,969 - > 00:01:33,930 But now what we're seeing is that organizations from the UK 33 00:01:33,930 - > 00:01:36,650 and other countries across the world are going to India to not 34 00:01:36,650 - > 00:01:39,930 just have their back office but their whole capability run from 35 00:01:39,930 - > 00:01:40,090 there. 36 00:01:40,090 - > 00:01:43,449 So you have organizations developing technology, doing 37 00:01:43,449 - > 00:01:46,650 engineering designs, you name it, everything is now happening 38 00:01:46,650 - > 00:01:48,729 at some of these GCCs across India. 39 00:01:48,729 - > 00:01:51,210 And historically, it's always been for some of the large 40 00:01:51,210 - > 00:01:53,610 corporates across the world who've been doing this, people 41 00:01:53,610 - > 00:01:58,169 like Ford or Renault or Mercedes-Benz or the Googles and 42 00:01:58,169 - > 00:01:59,449 Amazons of this world. 43 00:01:59,449 - > 00:02:02,569 But now it's becoming more amenable to smaller 44 00:02:02,569 - > 00:02:06,810 organizations because the struggle to hire manpower in the 45 00:02:06,810 - > 00:02:11,210 West, the cost of manpower, the um the challenges of manpower. 46 00:02:11,210 - > 00:02:14,330 So India is perfectly positioned with a young 47 00:02:14,330 - > 00:02:17,849 workforce, a skilled workforce, an English-speaking workforce to 48 00:02:17,849 - > 00:02:20,650 really support many organizations globally. 49 00:02:20,650 - > 00:02:24,170 So I personally see the growth of GCCs as a is a big area. 50 00:02:24,170 - > 00:02:27,849 And I think with the recent announcement by Trump about H1B 51 00:02:27,849 - > 00:02:32,170 visas changing in America, I think more and more US 52 00:02:32,170 - > 00:02:34,890 corporates will think, you know what, um, we don't want to spend 53 00:02:34,890 - > 00:02:36,890 that hundred thousand dollar fee. 54 00:02:36,890 - > 00:02:40,650 Um we're gonna say, well, we're gonna just operate more from 55 00:02:40,650 - > 00:02:41,290 India. 56 00:02:42,409 - > 00:02:42,730 Speaker 01: Okay. 57 00:02:42,730 - > 00:02:44,170 Deepak, what about you? 58 00:02:44,170 - > 00:02:45,689 What's your understanding of GCC? 59 00:02:46,090 - > 00:02:48,890 Speaker 02: So just adding to that, uh, the transition from 60 00:02:48,890 - > 00:02:52,570 the back office to the innovation hubs as we see GCs 61 00:02:52,570 - > 00:02:54,090 today and the future. 62 00:02:54,090 - > 00:02:57,050 It is all driven by AI cloud computing. 63 00:02:57,050 - > 00:03:00,170 We have the infrastructure, the economic structure, the 64 00:03:00,170 - > 00:03:01,210 policies in place. 65 00:03:01,210 - > 00:03:04,330 But this transition is very beautiful, you know, from back 66 00:03:04,330 - > 00:03:06,250 offices to innovation hubs. 67 00:03:06,250 - > 00:03:10,409 Now India is being seen as a leader, as a leader of uh, you 68 00:03:10,409 - > 00:03:13,689 know, uh cloud computing, as a leader of uh providing 69 00:03:13,689 - > 00:03:16,650 cost-effective solutions as it has been traditionally. 70 00:03:16,650 - > 00:03:21,290 But uh at present, or the future outlook is above, much 71 00:03:21,290 - > 00:03:22,250 above the cost. 72 00:03:22,250 - > 00:03:26,810 Now India is not seen as a low cost-effective center, but it is 73 00:03:26,810 - > 00:03:30,250 seen as an uh you know, center who is center of excellence, 74 00:03:30,250 - > 00:03:34,090 I'll say rather, who can produce future leaders who can help in 75 00:03:34,090 - > 00:03:36,490 innovation, in tech support, AI. 76 00:03:36,490 - > 00:03:38,490 So it's huge, it's huge. 77 00:03:38,490 - > 00:03:40,650 Uh the opportunities are huge. 78 00:03:40,969 - > 00:03:43,770 Speaker 00: And I think the key is in the word capability, okay? 79 00:03:43,770 - > 00:03:46,570 They're called capability centers because there's capable 80 00:03:46,570 - > 00:03:47,210 people out there. 81 00:03:47,210 - > 00:03:49,290 And I think that's that's the key message. 82 00:03:49,290 - > 00:03:52,090 Before it used to be seen as outsourcing, ship off the 83 00:03:52,090 - > 00:03:53,129 low-cost work. 84 00:03:53,129 - > 00:03:57,129 But things have changed over the last, well, five, 10 years 85 00:03:57,129 - > 00:03:58,090 rapidly. 86 00:03:59,050 - > 00:03:59,370 Speaker 01: Okay. 87 00:03:59,370 - > 00:04:01,530 I mean, we also, like you mentioned, I don't know that 88 00:04:01,530 - > 00:04:03,930 Rolls Royce has set up their own GCC in India. 89 00:04:03,930 - > 00:04:07,849 We recently also had DAZN, a famous streaming c in the UK, 90 00:04:07,849 - > 00:04:12,650 set up in Hyderabad for their tech operations and also for, I 91 00:04:12,650 - > 00:04:15,210 think, also for other back-end services. 92 00:04:15,210 - > 00:04:18,490 So, with that being said, guys, we mentioned India as well, a 93 00:04:18,490 - > 00:04:21,129 market right now that's currently growing and growing 94 00:04:21,129 - > 00:04:24,250 each day with new businesses coming up every day. 95 00:04:24,250 - > 00:04:27,689 So, what is the current market right now when you look at it? 96 00:04:27,689 - > 00:04:29,689 How big is the GCC industry? 97 00:04:29,689 - > 00:04:32,969 And where do you why do you think a lot of people just want 98 00:04:32,969 - > 00:04:36,569 to come set up in India, whether it be a tier one city or 99 00:04:36,569 - > 00:04:38,250 whether it be a tier two city? 100 00:04:39,289 - > 00:04:41,529 Speaker 00: Okay, I'll give you my so good deeper. 101 00:04:41,529 - > 00:04:42,089 You go for it. 102 00:04:42,089 - > 00:04:42,409 You go. 103 00:04:42,649 - > 00:04:42,889 unknown: Yeah. 104 00:04:43,129 - > 00:04:45,769 Speaker 02: So uh as we can see on the screens, you know, the 105 00:04:45,769 - > 00:04:49,129 the GCC market, it's not a market which evolved, which uh 106 00:04:49,129 - > 00:04:50,329 is uh the current topic. 107 00:04:50,329 - > 00:04:52,729 So GCCs have been in India from decades. 108 00:04:52,729 - > 00:04:57,129 So as of now, as we talk, there are more than 1700 active GCCs 109 00:04:57,129 - > 00:05:01,449 across India, spanning across India from uh major centers, 110 00:05:01,449 - > 00:05:04,569 cities like Mumbai, Bangalore, Hyderabad to tier two, tier 111 00:05:04,569 - > 00:05:05,449 three cities. 112 00:05:05,449 - > 00:05:09,689 And in terms of revenue, if we talk, so they the revenue, the 113 00:05:09,689 - > 00:05:11,849 annual revenue is far, far ahead, you know. 114 00:05:11,849 - > 00:05:13,449 India is far ahead the curve. 115 00:05:13,449 - > 00:05:17,449 So 60 uh it's more than 64 billion dollars, the current 116 00:05:17,449 - > 00:05:19,769 annual revenues from these GCCs. 117 00:05:19,769 - > 00:05:23,769 And then, since as we talked about that, India produces, uh, 118 00:05:23,769 - > 00:05:27,609 has the uh youth have the capability, the capability to 119 00:05:27,609 - > 00:05:28,810 work, the task force. 120 00:05:28,810 - > 00:05:32,569 So more than 1.9 million professionals work under these 121 00:05:32,569 - > 00:05:33,449 GCCs. 122 00:05:33,449 - > 00:05:36,089 And it it does not end here, it does not end here. 123 00:05:36,089 - > 00:05:40,089 I see the outlook and the reports, the NASCOM, the FICI, 124 00:05:40,089 - > 00:05:42,409 the global reports, if you uh go through. 125 00:05:42,409 - > 00:05:47,049 So by 2030, the projected revenue is 120 billion dollars. 126 00:05:47,049 - > 00:05:49,370 It is expected to cross 120 billion dollars. 127 00:05:49,370 - > 00:05:52,409 So it's it's it's a huge impact and huge market. 128 00:05:52,409 - > 00:05:56,810 And uh, you know, uh uh if you talk about the new GCCs coming 129 00:05:56,810 - > 00:06:00,649 over, uh offshoring uh companies, foreign companies 130 00:06:00,649 - > 00:06:02,329 setting up new GCCs in India. 131 00:06:02,329 - > 00:06:06,409 So 70% of the new GCCs are being established in India. 132 00:06:06,409 - > 00:06:10,969 So it's it's a huge market and a huge uh uh the world sees a 133 00:06:10,969 - > 00:06:12,649 huge capability in India. 134 00:06:13,209 - > 00:06:14,969 Speaker 00: Uh 100% agree there. 135 00:06:14,969 - > 00:06:18,089 And I think something to add is these statistics I think are 136 00:06:18,089 - > 00:06:22,810 kind of um just some kind of headline numbers, but and these 137 00:06:22,810 - > 00:06:25,930 1700 are probably large companies that you might hear on 138 00:06:25,930 - > 00:06:29,609 day-to-day, such as the Mercedes-Benz, the Rolls-Royces, 139 00:06:29,609 - > 00:06:30,649 that type of thing. 140 00:06:30,649 - > 00:06:34,250 But the reality is that there are many smaller, medium-sized 141 00:06:34,250 - > 00:06:37,529 businesses across UK, US that are already have their own 142 00:06:37,529 - > 00:06:39,049 little operation, like ourselves, really. 143 00:06:39,049 - > 00:06:42,409 We have our own GCC that we've set up over the last few years. 144 00:06:42,409 - > 00:06:44,969 Um, but I'm sure we're not in that 1700 number. 145 00:06:44,969 - > 00:06:47,529 So, the what we've seen historically are the large 146 00:06:47,529 - > 00:06:48,569 corporates doing it. 147 00:06:48,569 - > 00:06:51,689 Now the opportunity is really in the middle market, in my 148 00:06:51,689 - > 00:06:51,930 mind. 149 00:06:51,930 - > 00:06:54,729 Um, that's where the opportunities for these 150 00:06:54,729 - > 00:06:58,329 businesses that want to have a global team to support their 151 00:06:58,329 - > 00:07:00,409 business for growth, that's what they will do. 152 00:07:00,409 - > 00:07:03,049 They will set up a GCC in somewhere like India. 153 00:07:03,609 - > 00:07:05,930 Speaker 01: Okay, so that's a I mean, that's an impressive 154 00:07:05,930 - > 00:07:06,409 insight. 155 00:07:06,409 - > 00:07:10,329 Another thing I also want to ask was we have a lot, it's not 156 00:07:10,329 - > 00:07:12,889 just a one specific industry that's going to India. 157 00:07:12,889 - > 00:07:15,689 It's not just automobiles, it's not just tech, it's also 158 00:07:15,689 - > 00:07:20,089 accounting firms, it's also fashion, fashion like they're 159 00:07:20,089 - > 00:07:22,810 not just opening up an entire company there, but it's also 160 00:07:22,810 - > 00:07:26,009 small, small departments in various cities across. 161 00:07:26,009 - > 00:07:30,250 So if you as a if you as a person were to advise someone to 162 00:07:30,250 - > 00:07:34,409 open up a GCC, does it matter about does the sector really 163 00:07:34,409 - > 00:07:37,289 matter, or does it it's just based upon can you find the 164 00:07:37,289 - > 00:07:37,449 people? 165 00:07:37,689 - > 00:07:39,609 Speaker 00: Yeah, let me get give you a quick example. 166 00:07:39,609 - > 00:07:43,049 Uh we we if you look at last week another company, HCA 167 00:07:43,049 - > 00:07:46,810 Healthcare, US healthcare business, opened up a GCC in 168 00:07:46,810 - > 00:07:47,129 India. 169 00:07:47,129 - > 00:07:50,329 And that kind of is a massive healthcare organization in 170 00:07:50,329 - > 00:07:50,729 America. 171 00:07:50,729 - > 00:07:54,009 Now they're in the Indian market with their GCC, not 172 00:07:54,009 - > 00:07:57,129 operating in India, but having the GCC to support their US 173 00:07:57,129 - > 00:07:57,769 business. 174 00:07:57,769 - > 00:08:01,529 Um, so I think it goes across all industries, okay. 175 00:08:01,529 - > 00:08:04,089 All industries have a finance team, all industries have an 176 00:08:04,089 - > 00:08:06,969 innovation team, all industries have perhaps an AI team now. 177 00:08:06,969 - > 00:08:10,889 Um, and they're kind of looking at India at the talent bottom 178 00:08:10,889 - > 00:08:15,289 line to find and use, okay, in their businesses. 179 00:08:15,289 - > 00:08:20,649 Um, so I think it's not restricted to any particular 180 00:08:20,649 - > 00:08:22,250 industries at all, Praju. 181 00:08:22,250 - > 00:08:24,169 Really isn't. 182 00:08:25,049 - > 00:08:25,289 Speaker 01: Okay. 183 00:08:25,289 - > 00:08:29,129 And another thing I would say is like when a lot of people 184 00:08:29,129 - > 00:08:32,970 hear about GCCs, you hear back office, you hear stuff like 185 00:08:32,970 - > 00:08:33,210 that. 186 00:08:33,210 - > 00:08:37,289 Kind of sounds something similar to outsourcing, o 187 00:08:37,289 - > 00:08:38,250 offshoring. 188 00:08:38,250 - > 00:08:41,450 So when you compare outsourcing, offshoring and 189 00:08:41,450 - > 00:08:43,210 GCCs, what would be the difference? 190 00:08:43,210 - > 00:08:46,410 Like you would explain it to somebody just to make it a bit 191 00:08:46,410 - > 00:08:47,690 more clear. 192 00:08:48,810 - > 00:08:51,690 Speaker 02: So uh I'll I'll take the lead on this, and then uh 193 00:08:51,690 - > 00:08:53,290 maybe Arun can add on the view. 194 00:08:53,290 - > 00:08:58,090 So uh as as I started with saying that uh GCCs are being 195 00:08:58,090 - > 00:09:02,730 seen or India offices are seen as an innovation center rather 196 00:09:02,730 - > 00:09:03,850 than a cost center, right? 197 00:09:03,850 - > 00:09:05,290 A cost-effective center. 198 00:09:05,290 - > 00:09:09,370 So the the main differences, the main differences is first, I 199 00:09:09,370 - > 00:09:10,650 think is the culture alignment. 200 00:09:10,650 - > 00:09:14,250 You know, you can have a third-party vendor, you can 201 00:09:14,250 - > 00:09:17,850 outsource your work, but that culture alignment, the vision 202 00:09:17,850 - > 00:09:21,370 and the mission of your entity, of the companies, of the uh you 203 00:09:21,370 - > 00:09:23,930 know, foreign company does not align with that of the 204 00:09:23,930 - > 00:09:24,970 outsourcing firm. 205 00:09:24,970 - > 00:09:28,730 Wherein we see hiccups, we are wherein we see uh 206 00:09:28,730 - > 00:09:32,570 disengagements, unsatisfied team members, uh then comes the 207 00:09:32,570 - > 00:09:32,889 control. 208 00:09:32,889 - > 00:09:37,690 You know, uh if I if I if we go uh if we talk especially about 209 00:09:37,690 - > 00:09:42,570 the different sectors, about the GCCs and how they you know are 210 00:09:42,570 - > 00:09:43,769 different from outsourcing. 211 00:09:43,769 - > 00:09:46,009 The first is the first and foremost is the control. 212 00:09:46,009 - > 00:09:49,370 You have 100% control of your GCC, you know. 213 00:09:49,530 - > 00:09:53,129 Speaker 00: Uh you because you own it effectively, your US or 214 00:09:53,129 - > 00:09:57,129 UK company will have a hundred percent stake in the business in 215 00:09:57,129 - > 00:09:57,690 in India. 216 00:09:57,690 - > 00:09:59,690 That's that's the key because you have that means you have 217 00:09:59,690 - > 00:10:01,050 full control, right? 218 00:10:01,370 - > 00:10:04,090 Speaker 02: Okay, and you can you can align the efforts to 219 00:10:04,090 - > 00:10:07,690 achieve your mission and visions, you can be uh more 220 00:10:07,690 - > 00:10:11,050 focused and aligned, and the and the teams in the in the home 221 00:10:11,050 - > 00:10:14,889 country can more focus on business development, getting 222 00:10:14,889 - > 00:10:18,730 the you know, right set of clients can focus uh their 223 00:10:18,730 - > 00:10:19,769 efforts there. 224 00:10:20,889 - > 00:10:23,210 Speaker 01: Yeah, so basically, it's like so. 225 00:10:23,210 - > 00:10:27,370 If you can basically tell a US or UK company, a GCC model is 226 00:10:27,370 - > 00:10:31,769 where you have more control than in an offshore setting. 227 00:10:31,769 - > 00:10:34,889 You have more control and you also have more influence as to 228 00:10:34,889 - > 00:10:37,930 what goes on in and around the company and also the people that 229 00:10:37,930 - > 00:10:38,650 come in and come out. 230 00:10:39,050 - > 00:10:39,370 Speaker 00: Absolutely. 231 00:10:39,370 - > 00:10:42,810 So if you look at someone like um Rolls-Royce, they will own 232 00:10:42,810 - > 00:10:45,769 their whole entity in India, I imagine, okay, and they'll have 233 00:10:45,769 - > 00:10:47,610 control and they'll have well, they'll have people working on 234 00:10:47,610 - > 00:10:52,410 Rolls-Royce projects or working on between countries, um, and 235 00:10:52,410 - > 00:10:53,129 they control it. 236 00:10:53,129 - > 00:10:54,889 It's their bit it's their whole ecosystem. 237 00:10:54,889 - > 00:10:57,370 Whereas on the whole offshoring and outsourcing model, it's 238 00:10:57,370 - > 00:10:59,530 still with a third party you're dealing with, okay. 239 00:10:59,530 - > 00:11:02,009 And now for smaller organizations, that third party 240 00:11:02,009 - > 00:11:03,769 arrangement probably works, okay. 241 00:11:03,769 - > 00:11:06,730 But now, as we've said earlier, the the scope is for these 242 00:11:06,730 - > 00:11:09,690 smaller organizations to say, well, hold on a minute, I want 243 00:11:09,690 - > 00:11:12,570 to benefit from really from the GCCs, and that's what when that 244 00:11:12,570 - > 00:11:14,650 when when that when that happens, they realize that it's 245 00:11:14,650 - > 00:11:14,889 a thing. 246 00:11:14,889 - > 00:11:16,889 Well, I don't really want to go down the outsourcing model 247 00:11:16,889 - > 00:11:19,129 because the cultural alignment is in there, all these things, I 248 00:11:19,129 - > 00:11:22,250 want to set up my own, and that's again when we can kind of 249 00:11:22,250 - > 00:11:23,930 get involved and help. 250 00:11:24,889 - > 00:11:25,210 Speaker 01: Okay. 251 00:11:25,210 - > 00:11:28,970 So, in terms of also like the as we can see in the slide here, 252 00:11:28,970 - > 00:11:32,650 the evolution of what GCCs are right now and the direction it 253 00:11:32,650 - > 00:11:35,450 is going, it's now, as the book said, they're becoming 254 00:11:35,450 - > 00:11:38,330 innovation hubs, strictly innovation hubs. 255 00:11:38,330 - > 00:11:41,370 You are as mentioned over here, it's an AI-powered solution or 256 00:11:41,370 - > 00:11:43,370 like an AI-powered GCC over there. 257 00:11:43,370 - > 00:11:48,650 As many of you may not know, we recently opened up a AI GC, 258 00:11:48,650 - > 00:11:53,610 in Coimbatore maybe about two months ago, with our own uh team 259 00:11:53,610 - > 00:11:56,330 functioning over there, creating AI solutions. 260 00:11:56,330 - > 00:11:58,170 So, Arun, that was your vision. 261 00:11:58,170 - > 00:12:00,570 That was something that you wanted to do for yourself. 262 00:12:00,570 - > 00:12:04,730 So, and in terms of like, let's say the whole direction the 263 00:12:04,730 - > 00:12:09,450 world is going with AI, is setting a GCC specifically for 264 00:12:09,450 - > 00:12:12,970 AI something that you think a lot of companies should do in 265 00:12:12,970 - > 00:12:13,610 India? 266 00:12:14,250 - > 00:12:15,850 Speaker 00: In a nutshell, yes. 267 00:12:15,850 - > 00:12:17,370 Okay, yes, yes. 268 00:12:17,690 - > 00:12:21,530 Okay, India is a country full of smart engineers. 269 00:12:21,530 - > 00:12:25,450 Okay, they just perhaps need some um understanding of what 270 00:12:25,450 - > 00:12:28,490 the problems that uh businesses are facing across the world. 271 00:12:28,490 - > 00:12:32,250 Um, and there then they can solve those problems using 272 00:12:32,250 - > 00:12:35,370 software and um and and their engineering talent. 273 00:12:35,370 - > 00:12:39,129 Okay, so our AI center that we've set up is solving problems 274 00:12:39,129 - > 00:12:42,650 that we've identified in our businesses in the UK uh and 275 00:12:42,650 - > 00:12:46,009 beyond, and therefore we're using talent and teams and 276 00:12:46,009 - > 00:12:49,850 building an amazing team out there that will support um 277 00:12:49,850 - > 00:12:53,050 accountants, um, even dentists, to be honest, yeah, other dental 278 00:12:53,050 - > 00:12:55,530 businesses, so in those sectors that we operate in. 279 00:12:55,530 - > 00:13:02,250 Um and I think it's it's it's it's it's the and with this as I 280 00:13:02,250 - > 00:13:06,330 mentioned with this change in Trump's attitude, and um less 281 00:13:06,330 - > 00:13:08,650 engineers will be going to America, I imagine. 282 00:13:08,650 - > 00:13:12,170 Therefore, there'll be even more talent sitting in America 283 00:13:12,170 - > 00:13:16,889 in India to find to help people build their own GCCs as well, 284 00:13:16,889 - > 00:13:18,730 especially in the AI front. 285 00:13:19,930 - > 00:13:22,970 Speaker 01: Well, if anybody, if any AI engineer is actually 286 00:13:22,970 - > 00:13:25,690 watching this, well, this could be your calling card, guys, to 287 00:13:25,690 - > 00:13:29,129 set up your own maybe back office for another company in 288 00:13:29,129 - > 00:13:31,370 India and just offering your services out there. 289 00:13:31,370 - > 00:13:35,850 And another thing, also, Arn, like you mentioned HCA, the 290 00:13:35,850 - > 00:13:37,450 healthcare business that opened up. 291 00:13:37,450 - > 00:13:43,290 When someone thinks healthcare opening up a GCC in India, what 292 00:13:43,290 - > 00:13:46,250 departments would you normally think they would open up for? 293 00:13:46,570 - > 00:13:47,769 Speaker 00: Yeah, so good question. 294 00:13:47,769 - > 00:13:50,090 So initially, though, they would I imagine they open up to 295 00:13:50,090 - > 00:13:51,050 the back office function. 296 00:13:51,050 - > 00:13:55,290 So things like the accountings, um, things like the insurance 297 00:13:55,290 - > 00:13:58,330 payment processing, things like the billing, things like payment 298 00:13:58,330 - > 00:14:00,090 accounts payable, all that type of stuff. 299 00:14:00,090 - > 00:14:03,530 But then really they could be looking at developing um 300 00:14:03,530 - > 00:14:07,610 software tools, technology, um, all that type of stuff to 301 00:14:07,610 - > 00:14:11,370 improve the uh patient journey, maybe in the US. 302 00:14:11,370 - > 00:14:14,570 Um the sky's the limit, to be honest with you. 303 00:14:14,570 - > 00:14:17,210 You could be also running marketing teams out of India, 304 00:14:17,210 - > 00:14:17,769 like we do. 305 00:14:17,769 - > 00:14:20,889 We have our marketing, a lot of marketing team members doing um 306 00:14:20,889 - > 00:14:24,970 video editing, video content writing, you name it, they're 307 00:14:24,970 - > 00:14:26,090 all based out of India. 308 00:14:26,090 - > 00:14:28,889 So, what's stopping anyone else doing that as well? 309 00:14:28,889 - > 00:14:29,850 That's that's the whole point. 310 00:14:29,850 - > 00:14:31,450 That's what I'm trying to get across here. 311 00:14:31,450 - > 00:14:35,370 It's not just limited to one function, it's across the board. 312 00:14:35,370 - > 00:14:40,490 And beyond HCA, it could even be things like they might want 313 00:14:40,490 - > 00:14:44,730 to develop, I don't know, uh hospital designs and that type 314 00:14:44,730 - > 00:14:45,450 of thing. 315 00:14:45,450 - > 00:14:48,410 That's why not, you've got architects, you've got 316 00:14:48,410 - > 00:14:51,210 engineers, you've got everyone in India that could capable. 317 00:14:51,210 - > 00:14:53,850 Perhaps they just need to understand some of the rules, 318 00:14:53,850 - > 00:14:54,970 but it's possible. 319 00:14:54,970 - > 00:14:59,530 I I know car companies that are sold, cars that are sold in 320 00:14:59,530 - > 00:15:02,889 Europe, in France, Renault, I believe, and they're designed in 321 00:15:02,889 - > 00:15:04,250 India, okay. 322 00:15:04,250 - > 00:15:07,610 Um, in collaboration with some of their French colleagues, but 323 00:15:07,610 - > 00:15:09,610 a lot of it's designed in India, as an example. 324 00:15:09,610 - > 00:15:13,850 So we are at a stage where we're in a global workforce, and 325 00:15:13,850 - > 00:15:16,490 whilst people are trying to put barriers up, or certain people 326 00:15:16,490 - > 00:15:19,290 are trying to put barriers up, these barriers won't last 327 00:15:19,290 - > 00:15:24,009 forever in my mind, and uh the the ultimately the the the the 328 00:15:24,009 - > 00:15:27,530 the cream will always rise to the top, as they say, and people 329 00:15:27,530 - > 00:15:30,170 the the skilled talent will be on it will be available on a 330 00:15:30,170 - > 00:15:33,290 global basis, and a lot of that talent sits in India. 331 00:15:34,170 - > 00:15:36,810 Speaker 01: Okay, I mean that was actually a great insight. 332 00:15:36,810 - > 00:15:38,090 Go ahead, Deepak 333 00:15:38,730 - > 00:15:38,970 unknown: Right. 334 00:15:39,129 - > 00:15:42,009 Speaker 02: Just to add in continuation to what Arun said, 335 00:15:42,009 - > 00:15:45,290 that you know, uh no business, no burn businesses hunters with 336 00:15:45,290 - > 00:15:45,610 AI. 337 00:15:45,610 - > 00:15:49,129 So we do bookkeeping, we use AI tools to process invoices. 338 00:15:49,129 - > 00:15:52,650 We in fact nowadays people have been using chat GPTs to 339 00:15:52,650 - > 00:15:55,129 infinite in fact frame their emails, right? 340 00:15:55,129 - > 00:15:59,210 Uh edit CPTs, we have gamma, we have various softwares, video 341 00:15:59,210 - > 00:15:59,850 editing, everything. 342 00:15:59,850 - > 00:16:03,850 We have various so first of all, no business is hunters with 343 00:16:03,850 - > 00:16:04,250 AI. 344 00:16:04,250 - > 00:16:07,450 And as Arun Rand, you rightly said that we have our own AI 345 00:16:07,450 - > 00:16:09,290 center in Combat 2, CP Center U1. 346 00:16:09,290 - > 00:16:10,330 We are exploring that. 347 00:16:10,330 - > 00:16:12,650 We are exploring opportunities, right? 348 00:16:12,650 - > 00:16:15,930 And and then then comes, of course, we were talking about 349 00:16:15,930 - > 00:16:17,050 the skilled mindset. 350 00:16:17,050 - > 00:16:20,410 So India, India produces thousands of STEM engineers 351 00:16:20,410 - > 00:16:21,129 every year. 352 00:16:21,129 - > 00:16:23,370 So here lies the opportunity. 353 00:16:23,370 - > 00:16:27,290 UN Trump, as Arun already mentioned, Trump increasing the 354 00:16:27,290 - > 00:16:28,250 H1B visa. 355 00:16:28,250 - > 00:16:31,050 We recently over the last week, we saw that he's been 356 00:16:31,050 - > 00:16:31,610 increasing. 357 00:16:31,610 - > 00:16:35,690 And the global the global market says that why to why to 358 00:16:35,690 - > 00:16:39,530 you know hide someone and bring him to America, why not be shift 359 00:16:39,530 - > 00:16:40,730 the trend to remote teams? 360 00:16:40,730 - > 00:16:42,250 COVID has taught us that. 361 00:16:42,250 - > 00:16:44,250 The world has been working remotely. 362 00:16:44,250 - > 00:16:48,570 So this this is the new trend, and and uh I firmly believe that 363 00:16:48,570 - > 00:16:51,930 this will have a very huge impact on the emerging GCC. 364 00:16:53,290 - > 00:16:55,129 Speaker 01: Well, we'll see by 2030, I guess. 365 00:16:55,129 - > 00:16:57,370 We'll have more and more companies coming towards that 366 00:16:57,370 - > 00:16:57,850 direction. 367 00:16:57,850 - > 00:17:02,570 And in terms of how India now remains a premier GCC 368 00:17:02,570 - > 00:17:05,210 destination purely because of the skill force that's there, 369 00:17:05,210 - > 00:17:07,769 because the amount of people that want opportunities and also 370 00:17:07,769 - > 00:17:10,490 with the, I would say the amount of resources available. 371 00:17:10,490 - > 00:17:14,490 Arun, you started this, let's say a few years ago when you 372 00:17:14,490 - > 00:17:19,450 decided like to open up a couple of departments in India itself, 373 00:17:19,450 - > 00:17:22,569 in Delhi, with a couple of teams for accounting, marketing, 374 00:17:22,569 - > 00:17:23,690 now AI. 375 00:17:23,690 - > 00:17:24,970 What was the vision? 376 00:17:24,970 - > 00:17:28,250 Like, what made you think at that time to go in this 377 00:17:28,250 - > 00:17:28,890 direction? 378 00:17:30,329 - > 00:17:33,690 Speaker 00: I'd always had a we'd always worked with various 379 00:17:33,690 - > 00:17:35,930 Indian parties historically, okay. 380 00:17:35,930 - > 00:17:39,049 And we'd had mixed success, to be honest with you. 381 00:17:39,049 - > 00:17:43,610 Um, but I think the the the challenges of running a firm or 382 00:17:43,610 - > 00:17:47,450 businesses in the UK and the industries that we were in, um, 383 00:17:47,450 - > 00:17:50,329 with the talent that was available for the price point, 384 00:17:50,329 - > 00:17:54,410 the first step was to go with the view to find great talent at 385 00:17:54,410 - > 00:17:56,329 a reasonable price, okay? 386 00:17:56,329 - > 00:17:59,450 But once you get into that market, you then realize, oh my 387 00:17:59,450 - > 00:18:03,690 goodness, um, it's not just this I can do, I can do that, I can 388 00:18:03,690 - > 00:18:04,970 do this, this is possible. 389 00:18:04,970 - > 00:18:07,850 And suddenly your eyes open up to like, oh my goodness, I 390 00:18:07,850 - > 00:18:10,009 didn't know I could get people who could do this, I didn't know 391 00:18:10,009 - > 00:18:11,289 I could get people who could do that. 392 00:18:11,289 - > 00:18:16,490 So suddenly you're developing and building on um building new 393 00:18:16,490 - > 00:18:21,130 departments with new people, with new skills, um, which is 394 00:18:21,130 - > 00:18:23,370 very rare to find in perhaps in Western countries. 395 00:18:23,370 - > 00:18:26,090 And and the only organizations that can typically do that in 396 00:18:26,090 - > 00:18:28,970 Western countries are large, large corporates with much 397 00:18:28,970 - > 00:18:32,090 bigger pockets than say who than me, who's a small to 398 00:18:32,090 - > 00:18:33,210 medium-sized business. 399 00:18:33,210 - > 00:18:37,210 So it's been uh I had a question earlier today on an 400 00:18:37,210 - > 00:18:38,970 earlier webinar, and I said, Well, what's the one thing 401 00:18:38,970 - > 00:18:41,289 that's transformed your business in the last 25 years? 402 00:18:41,289 - > 00:18:42,650 Honestly, India. 403 00:18:42,650 - > 00:18:46,090 Okay, India's transformed it, but not when I just did 404 00:18:46,090 - > 00:18:49,049 outsourcing, that was just a temporary step. 405 00:18:49,049 - > 00:18:52,250 It's when I immersed myself into India, when we set up our 406 00:18:52,250 - > 00:18:56,809 own GCC, and when we have team members dotted in the UK and 407 00:18:56,809 - > 00:19:00,890 India um working, and they're all part of one organization. 408 00:19:00,890 - > 00:19:04,730 Deepak, anything to add on? 409 00:19:05,210 - > 00:19:08,890 Speaker 02: No, as rightly Arun said that outsourcing, uh, you 410 00:19:08,890 - > 00:19:13,130 know, the business really topped up when we set up our own GCC 411 00:19:13,130 - > 00:19:13,529 in India. 412 00:19:13,529 - > 00:19:16,329 Outsourcing can, of course, be a temporary solution. 413 00:19:16,329 - > 00:19:17,930 You can have a temporary solution. 414 00:19:17,930 - > 00:19:20,809 But you if if you have the longer vision, if you have the 415 00:19:20,809 - > 00:19:24,730 longer side, I think GCC is the only solution because then the 416 00:19:24,730 - > 00:19:28,170 teams, the people working with you, they have a the 417 00:19:28,170 - > 00:19:32,009 headquarters and the offshore team or a GCC team, they have 418 00:19:32,009 - > 00:19:33,769 similar vision, they have the same vision. 419 00:19:33,769 - > 00:19:36,970 You know, you can align your vision, you can align your 420 00:19:36,970 - > 00:19:39,690 efforts, and which is often not seen with the outsourcing 421 00:19:39,690 - > 00:19:40,250 partners. 422 00:19:40,250 - > 00:19:44,410 Uh, there are we can, you know, we have plenty of plenty of uh 423 00:19:44,410 - > 00:19:48,329 uh areas wherein uh there are shared resources working on 424 00:19:48,329 - > 00:19:52,250 different clients, then there is high iteration because you 425 00:19:52,250 - > 00:19:55,370 can't you can't create the culture, the culture is embedded 426 00:19:55,370 - > 00:19:56,490 by the outsourcing partner. 427 00:19:56,490 - > 00:19:59,450 Yeah, for your teams, you are in full control to create 428 00:19:59,450 - > 00:19:59,930 policies. 429 00:19:59,930 - > 00:20:03,370 If one is not working, you can modify that, you can modify the 430 00:20:03,370 - > 00:20:03,769 policy. 431 00:20:03,769 - > 00:20:07,049 So it is in your hands to create that culture, and of 432 00:20:07,049 - > 00:20:09,850 course, then you can add value to the team members working for 433 00:20:09,850 - > 00:20:12,329 you, which is the foremost important thing. 434 00:20:12,650 - > 00:20:13,930 Speaker 00: Yeah, and I you're right. 435 00:20:13,930 - > 00:20:16,250 The culture is something that when you're outsourced, you have 436 00:20:16,250 - > 00:20:17,529 no zero control over that. 437 00:20:17,529 - > 00:20:20,650 Whereas now that we have control over our organization 438 00:20:20,650 - > 00:20:24,250 across the UK and India, the culture we're trying to set is 439 00:20:24,250 - > 00:20:27,049 the same, and that comes from the leadership team. 440 00:20:27,049 - > 00:20:29,850 Um, and we try to hold ourselves to a high standard. 441 00:20:29,850 - > 00:20:32,090 But if we're working with a third party, we have zero 442 00:20:32,090 - > 00:20:33,049 control over that. 443 00:20:35,289 - > 00:20:38,569 Speaker 01: So the company has full control of the culture 444 00:20:38,569 - > 00:20:41,850 that's being set, they have full control of what's happening, 445 00:20:41,850 - > 00:20:44,569 they have full control of the workforce that's coming in, and 446 00:20:44,569 - > 00:20:48,090 they also have full, I would say, freedom to set up anywhere, 447 00:20:48,090 - > 00:20:50,410 whether it be a tier one or tier two city. 448 00:20:50,410 - > 00:20:52,890 So that's the next thing we have to go into. 449 00:20:52,890 - > 00:20:55,930 A lot of people, when they look at GCCs, they're being set up 450 00:20:55,930 - > 00:21:00,009 in Bangalore, Chennai, Mumbai, Delhi, all these areas. 451 00:21:00,009 - > 00:21:02,890 But now tier two cities are also on the rise. 452 00:21:02,890 - > 00:21:05,289 Coaching, Corridor, all these places. 453 00:21:05,529 - > 00:21:05,930 Speaker 00: Yeah, yeah. 454 00:21:05,930 - > 00:21:10,009 So this this is this is where I think where um large 455 00:21:10,009 - > 00:21:12,250 organizations will go to things that where they feel safe. 456 00:21:12,250 - > 00:21:14,490 They'll go to Bangalore, they'll go to the Hydro Baza, 457 00:21:14,490 - > 00:21:15,850 they'll go to the big cities. 458 00:21:15,850 - > 00:21:19,690 But um, I don't think that's the smart move, to be brutally 459 00:21:19,690 - > 00:21:20,329 honest with you. 460 00:21:20,329 - > 00:21:23,130 I think the smart move is in the smaller cities, the tier 461 00:21:23,130 - > 00:21:24,650 two, the tier three cities. 462 00:21:24,650 - > 00:21:28,009 Firstly, obviously, costs are lower, there's less less 463 00:21:28,009 - > 00:21:30,970 attrition, okay, um, team members. 464 00:21:30,970 - > 00:21:36,490 Um, and um, you find amazing talent in those places. 465 00:21:36,490 - > 00:21:39,850 Um, and we're finding now infrastructure improving in all 466 00:21:39,850 - > 00:21:40,970 of those places as well. 467 00:21:40,970 - > 00:21:45,210 So I think um whilst you might set up your first, what we've 468 00:21:45,210 - > 00:21:47,210 seen with some of the large organizations, they set up their 469 00:21:47,210 - > 00:21:49,930 first base in one of the big cities, such as Hyderabad or 470 00:21:49,930 - > 00:21:52,970 Bangalore, then they realize, oh my goodness, it's a a 471 00:21:52,970 - > 00:21:53,529 challenge. 472 00:21:53,529 - > 00:21:56,170 Then they start opening up secondary sites in smaller 473 00:21:56,170 - > 00:21:59,690 cities like Coinbattle, like Coach in various places. 474 00:21:59,690 - > 00:22:00,250 Okay. 475 00:22:01,529 - > 00:22:05,690 Speaker 01: So, and if a company were to set up a GCC in any of 476 00:22:05,690 - > 00:22:10,009 these cities, what's the skill level that let's say, regardless 477 00:22:10,009 - > 00:22:12,970 of the industry, what's the skill level that people should 478 00:22:12,970 - > 00:22:16,650 be looking at to set up GCCs in these specific cities? 479 00:22:16,650 - > 00:22:19,130 What skill set? 480 00:22:19,130 - > 00:22:20,170 Is it AI? 481 00:22:20,170 - > 00:22:22,170 Is it is it cybersecurity? 482 00:22:22,170 - > 00:22:23,450 Is it marketing? 483 00:22:23,450 - > 00:22:24,569 Is it HR? 484 00:22:24,569 - > 00:22:25,450 Which one is it? 485 00:22:25,450 - > 00:22:27,049 Maybe you know better than me. 486 00:22:27,610 - > 00:22:30,090 Speaker 02: So actually, just in continuation to what we 487 00:22:30,090 - > 00:22:33,210 discussed earlier, so who are the people uh working in tier 488 00:22:33,210 - > 00:22:33,289 one? 489 00:22:33,289 - > 00:22:36,569 They are the people migrating from tier two and tier three 490 00:22:36,569 - > 00:22:40,170 cities because they do not have those opportunities in their 491 00:22:40,170 - > 00:22:41,610 home states or home cities. 492 00:22:41,610 - > 00:22:45,690 So if if the if more and more centers are open to GCCs, 493 00:22:45,690 - > 00:22:50,250 companies set up centers in tier two, tier three cities, so they 494 00:22:50,250 - > 00:22:53,289 will be competing with tier one pop population because the 495 00:22:53,289 - > 00:22:54,170 people are the same. 496 00:22:54,170 - > 00:22:55,610 The people are the same. 497 00:22:55,610 - > 00:22:59,930 People people come out from their home cities to study, to 498 00:22:59,930 - > 00:23:03,450 work in search of opportunities, and if the opportunities reach 499 00:23:03,450 - > 00:23:05,930 to their home, so why wouldn't one leave that? 500 00:23:05,930 - > 00:23:08,650 Now, coming to these skill sets. 501 00:23:08,650 - > 00:23:12,650 So, since uh working in a globalized environment and 502 00:23:12,650 - > 00:23:16,569 working for clients across the globe, UK, US, uh, Norway, 503 00:23:16,569 - > 00:23:17,690 Denmark, anywhere. 504 00:23:17,690 - > 00:23:22,890 So, first of all, you know, uh, of course, you can get a uh AI 505 00:23:22,890 - > 00:23:25,450 engineer, you can get a dinner scientist who is very proficient 506 00:23:25,450 - > 00:23:28,170 in his core field in preaching side of things. 507 00:23:28,170 - > 00:23:32,410 But the key sets will of course be uh fluent English speaking, 508 00:23:32,410 - > 00:23:36,090 which uh you know the Indian the Indian youth has the correct 509 00:23:36,090 - > 00:23:39,130 mindset, the attitude, because the skills can be taught, but 510 00:23:39,130 - > 00:23:41,049 the mindset, the attitude cannot be taught. 511 00:23:41,049 - > 00:23:44,809 So you have to look for that, the correct mindset, the English 512 00:23:44,809 - > 00:23:49,610 speaking uh uh population, then the AI, AI efficient, people 513 00:23:49,610 - > 00:23:53,529 using uh people being tech-savvy using new tools, and then the 514 00:23:53,529 - > 00:23:54,090 hunger. 515 00:23:54,090 - > 00:23:58,009 You know, the hunger to grow, the hunger to innovate, the 516 00:23:58,009 - > 00:24:00,970 hunger to discuss ideas, to reach at the top. 517 00:24:00,970 - > 00:24:04,250 And this is what makes tier two and tier three cities more 518 00:24:04,250 - > 00:24:05,210 attractive. 519 00:24:05,210 - > 00:24:07,690 The the infrared is improving, no doubt. 520 00:24:07,690 - > 00:24:10,090 The government is really pushing up, giving different 521 00:24:10,090 - > 00:24:13,610 incentives to these tier two, tier three cities for companies 522 00:24:13,610 - > 00:24:14,970 setting up GCs there. 523 00:24:14,970 - > 00:24:19,450 But then the correct mindset, the tech savvy population, as 524 00:24:19,450 - > 00:24:23,610 India is one of among one of the uh youngest uh countries in the 525 00:24:23,610 - > 00:24:23,930 world. 526 00:24:23,930 - > 00:24:28,730 So tech savvy uh fluent English speaking, then you have 527 00:24:28,730 - > 00:24:33,210 AI-driven people, people who have hunger to grow and to you 528 00:24:33,210 - > 00:24:33,930 know succeed. 529 00:24:33,930 - > 00:24:38,410 I think these are some of the key skill sets we need to see. 530 00:24:39,130 - > 00:24:40,090 Speaker 01: Totally agree. 531 00:24:40,090 - > 00:24:45,049 So, based on what you guys have said throughout the entire 532 00:24:45,049 - > 00:24:48,170 session so far, when someone looks at this and they're like, 533 00:24:48,170 - > 00:24:52,170 Okay, I'm I'm curious to know how I can set something up like 534 00:24:52,170 - > 00:24:53,049 this in India. 535 00:24:53,049 - > 00:24:56,170 I'm curious to know what the process is going to take. 536 00:24:56,170 - > 00:24:58,809 And based on the transparency of what you guys have been and 537 00:24:58,809 - > 00:25:02,650 what the vision could be for my company or for me looking to set 538 00:25:02,650 - > 00:25:05,049 up something, what is the process? 539 00:25:05,049 - > 00:25:06,890 Like, and how will we go about this? 540 00:25:06,890 - > 00:25:09,690 And what's the duration of actually setting something 541 00:25:09,690 - > 00:25:11,769 something up like this in India? 542 00:25:13,049 - > 00:25:16,090 Speaker 00: Okay, so I I I'll give you very short answers. 543 00:25:16,090 - > 00:25:19,850 DPUC is more the man of the expert here, but it when I set 544 00:25:19,850 - > 00:25:23,370 up my own GCC back in back in a few years back, it took much 545 00:25:23,370 - > 00:25:25,529 longer, okay, because I didn't know what I was doing. 546 00:25:25,529 - > 00:25:27,850 Um, but we learned through that process. 547 00:25:27,850 - > 00:25:32,730 But um, because there are legal issues, there's um ownership 548 00:25:32,730 - > 00:25:34,890 issues, but if you're based overseas, there's director 549 00:25:34,890 - > 00:25:37,610 issues, all these things that come um which were kind of all 550 00:25:37,610 - > 00:25:38,809 new to me, okay. 551 00:25:38,809 - > 00:25:41,769 But once you overcome all of those things and have a team who 552 00:25:41,769 - > 00:25:45,049 can actually support you to address these issues, it's a 553 00:25:45,049 - > 00:25:46,250 relatively simple process. 554 00:25:46,250 - > 00:25:48,009 It's just having the right people in the right place. 555 00:25:48,009 - > 00:25:50,090 When I did it the first time, I didn't have the right people, I 556 00:25:50,090 - > 00:25:51,450 was just learning how to do it. 557 00:25:51,450 - > 00:25:56,250 But now we've built a team um and we can happily execute on 558 00:25:56,250 - > 00:25:58,569 this for other people looking to do this in India. 559 00:25:58,569 - > 00:26:01,769 Deepak, maybe you can shed a little bit more light on this. 560 00:26:02,090 - > 00:26:02,410 Speaker 02: Yeah. 561 00:26:02,410 - > 00:26:08,009 So as Arunuli rightly said, that uh when the uh our own ECC 562 00:26:08,009 - > 00:26:09,690 was set up, there were hiccups. 563 00:26:09,690 - > 00:26:14,970 Uh so back then, if we talk about 22, 23, the infra, the 564 00:26:14,970 - > 00:26:18,490 policies were not in so much, you know, they were not simple, 565 00:26:18,490 - > 00:26:19,850 they were not so transparent. 566 00:26:19,850 - > 00:26:23,289 Now you have dedicated portals for opening GCCs. 567 00:26:23,289 - > 00:26:25,210 Many states have come up for them. 568 00:26:25,210 - > 00:26:29,370 We, as we have learned from the process, as we have uh, you 569 00:26:29,370 - > 00:26:32,170 know, with our own hands opening our own GCC. 570 00:26:32,170 - > 00:26:33,610 So now we are experienced. 571 00:26:33,610 - > 00:26:37,049 Uh taking the time frame as you were very precise on the time 572 00:26:37,049 - > 00:26:37,450 frame. 573 00:26:37,450 - > 00:26:40,250 So uh we start the process, it is pretty simple. 574 00:26:40,250 - > 00:26:43,049 We start with a feasibility, you know, the call. 575 00:26:43,049 - > 00:26:45,769 First, we have the consultation call, we understand the 576 00:26:45,769 - > 00:26:49,210 requirements, then we go for the feasibility study, whether 577 00:26:49,210 - > 00:26:53,370 operating or scaling uh operating your own GCC would be 578 00:26:53,370 - > 00:26:55,769 cost-effective, beneficial in the long term for the 579 00:26:55,769 - > 00:26:56,970 organization or not. 580 00:26:56,970 - > 00:27:01,930 Then comes the part wherein we give a blueprint of the process, 581 00:27:01,930 - > 00:27:05,930 what services you want to onboard, what is your vision to 582 00:27:05,930 - > 00:27:09,370 open your GCC, what are the requirements, what core of sales 583 00:27:09,370 - > 00:27:11,450 skill sets you'll need the people. 584 00:27:11,450 - > 00:27:15,049 Uh, typically the the whole transition takes around 90 days 585 00:27:15,049 - > 00:27:17,529 or three months, and we divide it into three parts. 586 00:27:17,529 - > 00:27:21,529 First is 0 to 30, wherein we uh do the feasibility study, the 587 00:27:21,529 - > 00:27:25,450 groundwork, uh, do these uh you know, maybe the site selection, 588 00:27:25,450 - > 00:27:30,490 the infra, the people, uh uh, the uh leadership hiring. 589 00:27:30,490 - > 00:27:34,490 Then we move on to the second range wherein we shape what is 590 00:27:34,490 - > 00:27:35,289 on the papers. 591 00:27:35,289 - > 00:27:39,049 We give your entity a name, we give your entity a legal 592 00:27:39,049 - > 00:27:44,650 incorporation, the the most, the most uh you know used uh legal 593 00:27:44,650 - > 00:27:47,049 entity in India is private limited company. 594 00:27:47,049 - > 00:27:50,569 So we form a hundred percent owned subsidiary of your foreign 595 00:27:50,569 - > 00:27:53,930 company in India, and then then comes appointing your 596 00:27:53,930 - > 00:27:57,130 directors, supporting you to obtain different registrations, 597 00:27:57,130 - > 00:27:57,370 etc. 598 00:27:57,370 - > 00:28:01,450 The last stretch, uh, since we'll be talking in detail in 599 00:28:01,450 - > 00:28:03,610 coming webinars about each step in depth. 600 00:28:03,610 - > 00:28:05,289 So this is just a quick summary. 601 00:28:05,289 - > 00:28:08,809 The last stretch, which is around uh you know 60 to 90 602 00:28:08,809 - > 00:28:11,289 days, we aim to go live. 603 00:28:11,289 - > 00:28:15,769 We aim to hire processes, we aim to go live. 604 00:28:15,769 - > 00:28:20,730 Uh, we also provide support in terms of policy drafting, in 605 00:28:20,730 - > 00:28:24,890 terms of uh cultural alignment, you know, people, people uh the 606 00:28:24,890 - > 00:28:28,410 HQ team in UK or US can have different mindsets. 607 00:28:28,410 - > 00:28:32,090 So we try to align, we host activities, we do corporate 608 00:28:32,090 - > 00:28:36,250 activities, we help and train the team here to align with the 609 00:28:36,250 - > 00:28:37,130 headquarters team. 610 00:28:37,130 - > 00:28:41,930 And then from 60 to 90 is also a period wherein you we can 611 00:28:41,930 - > 00:28:42,809 assess the initial. 612 00:28:42,809 - > 00:28:46,410 We you call it the initial assessment period wherein you 613 00:28:46,410 - > 00:28:51,690 can assess the uh effects and you you you see the results, you 614 00:28:51,690 - > 00:28:52,890 get to see the results. 615 00:28:53,610 - > 00:28:58,650 Speaker 00: So I think 90 the uh 90 days is our target day to 616 00:28:58,650 - > 00:28:59,610 get something set up. 617 00:28:59,610 - > 00:29:02,250 Obviously, there may be variables at play here, but it's 618 00:29:02,250 - > 00:29:03,610 a realistic target. 619 00:29:03,610 - > 00:29:06,890 Um, but it'll depend on various issues, legal issues, or 620 00:29:06,890 - > 00:29:09,130 various parties that maybe in the UK that needs to make 621 00:29:09,130 - > 00:29:10,970 decisions, and sometimes these things slow it down. 622 00:29:10,970 - > 00:29:14,569 But I think a 90-day window is a reasonable amount of time to 623 00:29:14,569 - > 00:29:16,090 get it off the ground. 624 00:29:18,009 - > 00:29:21,450 Speaker 01: So, in 90 days, guys, you could probably have a 625 00:29:21,450 - > 00:29:24,170 department set up in India or could be an entirely new 626 00:29:24,170 - > 00:29:25,930 company, that is also possible. 627 00:29:25,930 - > 00:29:28,970 So, with that being said, thank you for both of you for your 628 00:29:28,970 - > 00:29:32,730 clarity and your time for explaining to the public about 629 00:29:32,730 - > 00:29:36,170 what a GCC is and what the next wave is going to be. 630 00:29:36,170 - > 00:29:40,009 For more information, guys, for anybody who watches this later 631 00:29:40,009 - > 00:29:42,410 on or who is watching this right now, if you can head to 632 00:29:42,410 - > 00:29:46,730 SameraGlobal.com slash global capability centers for 633 00:29:46,730 - > 00:29:47,289 accountants. 634 00:29:47,289 - > 00:29:51,289 We have set up a guide that shows you the 90-day process of 635 00:29:51,289 - > 00:29:54,970 what it takes to build up a GCC, basically what Deepak and Arun 636 00:29:54,970 - > 00:29:55,529 have just said. 637 00:29:55,529 - > 00:29:57,130 And it's free to download. 638 00:29:57,130 - > 00:29:59,210 Nothing further, nothing further will be asked for. 639 00:29:59,210 - > 00:30:00,329 Have a look at it. 640 00:30:00,329 - > 00:30:04,569 and to our future clients, we're right here. 641 00:30:04,569 - > 00:30:06,090 We're not going anywhere. 642 00:30:06,090 - > 00:30:09,049 And we're help, we're willing to help you scale if you just 643 00:30:09,049 - > 00:30:09,850 give us the time. 644 00:30:09,850 - > 00:30:11,769 90 days is all we ask for. 645 00:30:11,769 - > 00:30:12,730 Thank you. 646 00:30:15,450 - > 00:30:15,769 Speaker 02: Thank you,
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