Strong, Balanced & Thriving: Women’s Health Over 40 | Jess Olmeda

Michele DiMeo: All right, everyone. We're back for another episode of Dine and Dish. boy, what a crazy week that we've had in Annapolis. There was so much going on here with commissioning week at the Naval Academy.

And ⁓ my God, so many different parties and graduation parties and then Memorial Day weekend. And ⁓ now we're going to talk about. Getting ourselves healthy and nutrition and fitness and what a better person to have on the show than my very good friend Jess. And I'll get her introduced in just a minute.

But we have to talk about why we're doing a show on women's health. Because hospitality and the restaurant world is long hours, standing on your feet, crazy schedules. And if you don't take care of yourself, you can't take care of others. So I thought what a great way to jump off summer because everybody always says, ⁓ I gotta get in shape, I gotta lose weight.

It's not just about New Year's resolutions, it's also about health and fitness and taking care of yourself mentally, spiritually, emotionally, physically, and nutrition. And Jess, that I know from lifetime, who is amazing, ⁓ she has an amazing military background, she has an amazing fitness background, she's now focused on women's health and peptides and nutrition and so many cool things. And I said, let's do a show together. So with further ado, I am going to introduce my very good friend Jess.

So are you on the line with me, Jess? Jess Olmeda: Get fun here, miss Dow. Michele DiMeo: Hi! I'm so excited to actually be on the air than just in the gym taking a psychoclass.

Jess Olmeda: I I'm so excited. We're not sweaty. We're like all glammed up and showered. I actually washed my hair today.

Michele DiMeo: I know. I know so much better, right? Well, I still have my my workout due going, but yes. Much cleaner and makeup.

Jess Olmeda: Oh, you're fabulous always. Michele DiMeo: So let's jump into the show because I already know 40 minutes is gonna go so fast and everybody's gonna want more about all your information and what you're gonna bring to the table. So let's jump right into it and talk about who you are, what you do, what you stand for, talk a little bit about your background, and then I'll get into all the questions I have for you because I'm gonna pick your brain on nutrition and health and peptides and net and all these questions that people have about what to take and when to take them.

Jess Olmeda: Thank Okay, great. Well, I'm super excited. First of all, thank you for having me. This is so exciting.

I think I was coming up the stairs at the gym and we just started organically talking after class and you were like, hey, do you want to come on and do my podcast? And I said, hell yeah, because you know, I'm about using bad words here and there because you got to light your fire. ⁓ There are levels of bad words and I'll try to behave myself. ⁓ Michele DiMeo: Yes.

Ha ha ha ⁓ All right, if not, Steve is gonna bleep you out. So for every bleep word, you're gonna hear bleep bleep. Jess Olmeda: Yeah, bleep, bleep, bleep me, me, Steve. So my name's Jess, obviously.

I've been in the military for 18 years. I'm from Connecticut originally. I am a proud wife. I have four beautiful children.

I also teach indoor cycling classes at Lifetime, which is how we met. And I think where my passion for Michele DiMeo: Ha ha ha. Jess Olmeda: women's health really came into play was in 2022 ⁓ when I started having perimenopause symptoms, but I didn't know that they were perimenopause symptoms because women, weren't talking about it, right? It wasn't something that you were going to your GYN to talk about.

It's not something that you would talk about at brunch with your girlfriends. ⁓ And so I started having periods and my menstrual cycles were all over the place. ⁓ Fast forward, I ended up having an ablation in a doctor's office, ⁓ which I don't know if we want to get into all the details, Michelle, of all the things you let me know, ⁓ but it's essentially a procedure where you stop having your menstrual cycle. So once I did that, life went back to normal.

It was fabulous. I started working out, moving my body, lifting. I'll talk about how important that is. Just eating really, really nutritious meals.

Because also, let's talk about when you're a mom, it doesn't matter if you have one child or four children, you tend to lose yourself, right? I think for a little bit of periods of time, and it's hard to focus on you and give yourself the self-care ⁓ that you should give to yourself that you have. ⁓ So, I think there was a period of time, about a year, where everything was going well. Michele DiMeo: Mm-hmm.

Yeah. Jess Olmeda: ⁓ I was in a good trajectory. I had lost a good amount of body fat. ⁓ I fell into the indoor cycling world, right?

Which totally lit my fire. I mean, who doesn't want to be in a dark room with loud music and LED lights and just, yes, and strobe lights and just, yes, and just really like not connecting right to watts or like RPMs, just literally, literally. Michele DiMeo: And strobe lights. Woo!

It's like a disco. Jess Olmeda: feeling the energy move through your body and connecting to what you need to connect to. And then all of a sudden, I mean, it was like last year, so between the ablation and now it was probably four years, I just had an absolutely hellacious year. ⁓ I didn't know who I was.

I had completely lost myself. mean, ⁓ Everything from my sleep changed, right? I started waking up at 3 a.m.

and then it got a little worse. It was, it turned into full-fledged insomnia, right? I wasn't sleeping. I was always anxious.

I was having panic attacks. The hot flashes and then night sweats were absolutely unreal. I would be at work in the middle of a meeting and I would just start profusely sweating. I mean like sweat droplets on my forehead, on my back.

Michele DiMeo: Yeah. Jess Olmeda: I could see my pulse like skyrocketing on my Apple watch just sitting at dinner and also like libido, zero libido and for a year. Michele DiMeo: Yeah. You know, Jess, you know what?

It's so many people go through that and they don't say anything. You know, it's you you hear so many women that say, you know what, my whole life's changing. I feel like I'm fogged. I don't know what I'm doing.

I forget things. I'm not sleeping. And a lot of people don't even realize that not sleeping and waking up in the middle of the night at three o'clock in the morning or four o'clock in the morning is just changing your body. I mean, that's not healthy for you to get up.

I mean, I shouldn't say that because I get up. I'm not a sleeper. But ⁓ you know It changes so much and everybody's different. You know, some people go through it at 40, some people go through it at 50.

You just you don't know. There's no like Bible of what to do and how to do it and when to do it. So it's like you're kind of winging it. It's funny because you have kids and there's no Bible on how to have kids and how to raise kids.

And you kind of wing it, you're like, you know, how the F do I do this? And then you get to like 40-50, and you're like, okay, now I gotta take care of myself, not my kids. And it's like, how the hell do I do this? So, you know, it's It's funny that you talk about that because it's such a huge topic.

And there's so many shows out there and so many podcasts and so many books. And everybody just says, What do I do and how do I do it? You know, is it hormones? Is it health?

Is it what is it? You know? So nobody really knows. So, you know, to jump into a topic like this and talk about like hormonal shifts and metabolism changes and energy levels and sleep and stress.

I mean, it's such a hot topic right now. It's funny because every show I do. The two hot topics we talk about is okay, how did COVID change the landscape and how's AI changing the world? But no one ever talks about like how our bodies change.

You know, what and that's probably when you're in the restaurant business and hospitality, even the military, let's talk. Your body is you need your body. You're so strenuous. You need your mind, you need to be sharp, and you need to be strong.

And when you go through menopause and you go through changes and you're all screwed up, like, Those are the two things that go first. Your mind goes. They always say the first thing to go is your mind. And then your body goes and then your mental state goes because your body went and you th you think, ⁓ my God, I look like crap.

So it's like this whole circle of hell, right? Jess Olmeda: Yes, and then you just look like one big effing hot mess. You're walking around like a hot mess. You know what I mean?

You come home and you're a hot mess. I literally remember my husband saying to me, what is wrong with you? Like, can you please figure out what is wrong with you? We were standing in the kitchen.

I think it was Thanksgiving. I don't know when it was, but that sticks in my brain. And I think literally a light switch went off in my head and I'm like, you know what? I don't know what's wrong with me.

Michele DiMeo: Ha ha ha. Jess Olmeda: But I need to figure out what's wrong with me. And figuring it out is a whole journey in and of itself because you have to be your best. No one else is gonna advocate for you like yourself.

So you have to advocate for yourself. Michele DiMeo: Yeah. Yeah. ⁓ a thousand percent with anything.

I mean, health or whatever, business health, you should you have to be your you have to advocate. And because first off, let's not talk about doctors, but they that's why it's called practicing medicine, because they like to practice on you, right? But that's a whole nother podcast. So we're not gonna digress and talk about medicine, but talk to me about exercise and diet because You know, we're gonna talk in a couple of minutes about peptides and you know the whole GLP one and all the different solutions out there and how they help and how they don't help and the pros and cons.

⁓ because everybody's different and everybody has different results and side effects and and thoughts and beliefs on on all these different shots and peptides. But talk to me about like exercise, because exercise And diet is so important. And and you know, you training at lifetime has made such a huge change. I mean, I love going there.

I'm there five days a week. ⁓ exercise is my like mental clarity. And, you know, if I'm in a bad mood and I'm miserable, I'm like, God, I gotta go take a cycle class. Like Saturday, I was like, I woke up and I was on a rampage and I'm like, I'm going to cycle.

And I took edge and you leave and you feel so good. You know what I mean? So talk about how exercise and diet can totally help with focus and clarity and And what it does for your body. Jess Olmeda: So movement is medicine.

I'll start with that. So movement is medicine. And we also want to talk about consistency over intensity, right? That's kind of how I break that down.

⁓ Movement is probably the best addiction you could or will ever have ⁓ in your life, right? And movement maybe is just getting outside and going for a five minute walk. It's also important to meet yourself where you're at. So if you used to be a marathon runner 20 years ago, you're probably not gonna be able to catch up to that speed, which is fine.

So I always talk about meeting, you know, make sure that you're meeting yourself where you're at and just starting. Cause I think it's really easy to overthink, right? Well, I wanna get through a 40 minute workout or I wanna get a 50 minute workout. So moving your body.

Showing up doing this thing even if that means you step into the cycle studio and you sit on the bike for 40 minutes Or you sit on the bike for 50 minutes you clipped in you made it you're there. You're pedaling your legs. You're taking a walk ⁓ I think what else Michele DiMeo: You know, it's fun it's funny you said that. I'm gonna kind of cut you off for a second.

You know, I used to be a runner and ⁓ there was a time when Janar and I first met and we started dating. I used to run five to eight miles a day. Like I was a runner runner. Like I loved run.

It was like therapy for me. I would get out and he would bite because he would say, Okay, you're a maniac. Like I'm not gonna run five miles with you on a daily basis. So he would bike next to me and I would be running.

And today I can still run. But now as I get older, it's like, okay, it's not really great for my knees. It's I'm already having hip issues. And I'm like, to get out and do five or seven miles is just not realistic anymore.

You know, first off, I don't have an hour, an hour and a half to just get out and run and then go do weights. And, you know, my schedule was more flexible when I was younger. So getting into a gym or getting into a program or getting into something that gives you the space to just move, like I love that you said movement. is medicine because it is.

It's medicine for your mind, it's medicine for your body. Even if it's just like being in the restaurant and you know you have to be at work from 10 to 10 every day or 11 to 11, that hour before, even if you just walk around the building or, you know, go up and down the stairs in an office building, there's so many things that you can do for movement that doesn't have to be like true focused exercise, like getting in a cycle studio or exercising. So Movement is so important and I love that you say that.

And I mean, for me, getting on I mean, I'm not supposed to be cycling as much as I do, but I love it. It's such mental, it's even when you get in and the music's pumping and you're doing all the exercise and you're dancing and I mean it it makes it fun. And you know, it it's like you have this little sisterhood of of exercising, you know, that gives you the outlet that you need to get away from the kids. Right?

Jess Olmeda: Absolutely, yes, absolutely. It's about community and right and like I think it's really important what you said to you, right? We we go to lifetime, right? We have our community so we leave our house To go to the gym, but I'm gonna be honest when I was in the thick of it I had just a little garage gym at home, right?

Because I just needed that space to be able to go to because the fact of driving 20 or 30 minutes to a gym You know what? I mean spending 40 or 50 minutes and let's be up left Michele DiMeo: Mm-hmm. Jess Olmeda: When you walk into the gym, go to the locker room and then you pee and then you spray deodorant on your armpits, right? Like whatever your routine is.

Michele DiMeo: And then you talk to somebody going into the locker room and talk to somebody going out of the locker room, by the time you even work out, it's thirty-five minutes. Jess Olmeda: Yes, and when the hustle and bustle of my life was happening, I mean, I'm still in it, don't get me wrong, but when the kids were really little, the fact of that would even, it would stress me out. ⁓ So if you're able to have a little space at home. ⁓ Michele DiMeo: Yeah.

Jess Olmeda: Yeah, think however you can make it work for you is how you should make it work for you. However you can show up and start. I mean, maybe it's in the kitchen, you know, doing some squats here and there, or watching TV and doing a plank or doing push-ups if you're not able to actually get to a gym. Michele DiMeo: Yeah.

Well, it's funny that we're doing this show. So before my restaurant days, I actually did weight loss. ⁓ I worked for LA weight loss for 10 years and ⁓ I was a regional VP there and I ran all the DC, Virginia, and Maryland area. So I helped thousands of people lose weight.

And we did it through diet and and changing of habits and ⁓ and bringing protein and different balance and harmony in the whole package into helping people lose weight. So doing this show is so my passion because I loved it. I did it for 12 years, you know, and it changes people's lives. You know, it's funny because we we cycle with somebody and, you know, you don't know people's stories until you actually talk to them.

And ⁓ you know, one of the girls that we know at the gym, she's lost a ton of weight. And I just see her and I'm like, God, she's in such great shape. What does she do? And then she's leaving thinking, ⁓ my God, I I'm not, I don't feel my best.

I just lost 60 pounds. I'm struggling. I'm having a hard time. So it's funny because everybody's perception of what goes on is.

is just so different. You know, you you just don't know somebody else's story until you sit down and you actually talk to them, you know? But so talk about let's let's jump right into like peptides and net and I mean you're you're doing this whole video every single day and you talk about like what's in your toolbox and what you need. And I want to jump into that because there's so much valuable information.

And you know, you don't need to just take a GLP one or you know what all these different Jess Olmeda: Absolutely. Michele DiMeo: For weight loss. It can also be used for, you know, helping with swelling and all these different other solutions. So jump into that and talk about what you're doing and your your pot.

It's not really a podcast, but you actually talk every day and you have a website. And so talk about those solutions because I'm sure there's so many people listening that would say, ⁓ my God, I I want those. Like what do I do to change how I feel? Because a lot of people don't talk about it.

Jess Olmeda: Yeah, absolutely. And I think it's really, it kind of points to the movement in nutrition, right? So, GLPs, peptides, NAD +, which is a coenzyme, they're all tools, right? That are meant to be stacked with habits, right?

Good habits. So, right? Moving your body, ⁓ walking, you know, if it's five minutes a day, great. If you can walk for 30 minutes a day, great.

Or maybe it's four times a week. Strength training, right? lifting, picking up heavy things and putting them down at least three times a week because also movement is medicine and muscles is longevity, right? We wanna have strong bodies, good bones, good muscle mass, all of those things.

And then leading with protein is really, really important too, right? I think we hear about that a lot too, protein, protein, protein. So movement, ⁓ getting your protein in, hydrating. and then Michele DiMeo: And you always talk about creatine.

So, I mean, how does that play in, right? Isn't that another supplement that everybody says, ⁓ my God, it's I see it now. It's funny because you and I are talking, and I'm sure my smartphone is listening to everything I talk about. So I'm gonna go to my smartphone in a little bit.

But I'll go and open up Instagram and there'll be ads for creatine. There'll be ads for peptides because you know it's sitting here listening to me, you know. So talk about. Jess Olmeda: you For sure!

Michele DiMeo: creatine because that's one of the supplements that you were focusing on last month about muscle and building muscles. Jess Olmeda: Creatine is a non-negotiable, okay? You can drink it with your water. I call it like my morning or my afternoon mocktail.

So I'll put some ice, some water, some flavorless creatine, and maybe some electrolytes and drink it. I cannot tell you, it has helped with my brain fog twofold, twofold. So typically when you start taking it, ⁓ you can... Michele DiMeo: Wow.

Jess Olmeda: stack it a little bit. So five grams is what it suggested. But I did 10 grams for five to seven days. And what it does is it goes it.

I'm sorry, helps with brain fog and I'm blanked out. crosses. ⁓ It crosses the blood brain barrier. And it really does help with mental clarity, cognitive function, and also helps support lean muscle mass.

Michele DiMeo: There you go, there's the brain fog. Jess Olmeda: Bone mass, literally is one of the most fabulous supplements and every single woman should take it. Hands down. Hands down.

It's fabulous. It really, really is. And I Michele DiMeo: Yeah. Yeah.

So everybody, everybody always asks, and I'm gonna ask you because you're both. Everybody always says cardio or weights? Like it's like that scale, right? So it's I know really in a perfect world, you should do both.

I mean, everybody says you should have a balance of both, but in your mind, for those, and and we're focusing now mostly on women over 40. So let's focus on, you know, going through all these changes to your body. what do you feel is probably the best to focus on? So if you only have thirty minutes a day or forty minutes a day and then you go and you're in the hospitality world and you have this crazy busy schedule.

What would you say is is the the way to go? What should you focus your time on? Jess Olmeda: So I don't want as I don't want to assume because I'm not all in the hustle and bustle of the restaurant entry industry, but as a customer who has dined at many restaurants, I would lead with strength training first because correct me if I'm wrong. It seems like the restaurant.

mean, I was a waitress like a really long time ago and I was walking all over the place. So I would probably gather that steps is not that much of an issue, guess depending on where you are in the restaurant industry. But I would lead with steps. Michele DiMeo: ⁓ yeah.

Actually that's a good point. Because on holidays I used to put my Apple Watch on and I'd be like, ⁓ I closed another ring. Like as I was running the restaurant doing my circles, I was like, ding, ding. It's like ring closed, ring closed.

So you know what? You're probably right. Strength training is probably more important than cardio because running around the restaurant is definitely cardio when you think of it on that level. Jess Olmeda: Yeah, for sure.

Michele DiMeo: Yeah. So what type of strength training? So like if you're focusing on, you know, what's more focused for women? Because let's talk, just you and I, because we're both women, what would you say is most the focus that you should do in terms of strength training?

I mean, do you focus on legs? Do you focus on weights? Do you focus on squats? I mean, like I took a barbell class today at lifetime and you know, it's a guy that teaches it.

And of course, guys focus on different things than what women need. So what would you say if you're going to the gym and ⁓ you're looking for a focus for strength training, what should you focus on? Jess Olmeda: So full body if you have three days a week and Though that's the only amount of time that you have which is great It's not the only amount of time right you're putting in the time if you have 30 minutes to put in three times a week I would focus on full body. So upper body, lower body, and then maybe your third day is a combination of both.

And if we're talking about women in our age group, you wanna lift heavy. So it's heavy weight and a max of six to eight reps. Michele DiMeo: So you're saying heavyweight? Really?

So I I heard the opposite where you say low low weights, but more rats. So you're saying to go heavier and do less. Jess Olmeda: Yes, heavyweight. Yep.

Yes, you want to go heavier and you want to do less. And at the last two to three reps, you should not be able to talk. You should be breathless. Michele DiMeo: Hmm, interesting.

So, okay, well, there you go. There's the difference between a guy trainer and a girl trainer. The guys say go light and do more reps, and the girls go, go heavy and do less. There you go.

There's the beast mentality. Women go stronger. Jess Olmeda: Yep. Yes, yes, because when we're older, we start having those hormonal imbalances and picking up the heavy weight really, really helps you with ⁓ estrogen, testosterone, because women, as women, we do have testosterone and also progesterone levels.

Michele DiMeo: Yeah. Interesting. Jess Olmeda: It's important to fire up those pathways and lifting heavier with fewer reps is really what does that. It's also really important for cardiovascular health as well because that's also something we have to focus on as we get older.

Michele DiMeo: Okay, so what you're telling me is when I take your AMP class, I should throw away the five pound and pick up the fifteen. Are you telling me I'm lifting weights that they're not heavy enough? Pick up the heavier weights. Jess Olmeda: Yes.

Yes. That's why I walk around. I think it's usually always the second arm song. I'm like, does anybody need a weight change?

And the smirks I get are like ridiculous. Michele DiMeo: Well All right, so I guess that's the hint next time you walk by me, pick up the damn heavy weights, Michelle. Jess Olmeda: I'll just take those ones away from you and give you the heavy ones and you'll just smirk at me. Michele DiMeo: So you mentioned hormones, and I want to talk about that because hormones play, they almost play with you.

They're they it's almost like the joker in your body because you never know what you're gonna wake up with or what you're gonna go to bed with, because it's always different, especially when you know over 40 and things change so much. And talk about cortisol because that seems to be a big one these days. I'm seeing that everywhere. That, you know, cortisol helps with weight loss, cortisol helps with sleeping, cortisol helps with stress.

And I mean. Jess Olmeda: Good night. Michele DiMeo: And you know, the restaurant business is really stressful. I mean, especially for an owner.

I'm gonna talk from my standpoint. I mean, owning your own business, even if it's not just restaurants, it's very stressful. And stress messes with cortisol cortisol levels when you're over 40, actually over 50. but talk about that and why, you know, and how you can fix those or are is there anything you can do to help?

Because sleep and cortisol and hormones are so important. Jess Olmeda: Okay. Yes, absolutely. for cortisol, it's really, really important to try to have a couple solid habits.

So your sleep routine is probably number one, right? So 10 minutes before, and I'm sure we've all heard this, but 10 minutes before, Like don't doom scroll on your phone. Turn the TV off, right? Try to turn all the lights off.

And that's easier said than done when we have, you know, just a lot going on, right, at home. all the time, but you really want to try to set a good night time routine, progesterone, if you don't have enough in your body and getting your labs checked, right? I haven't talked about that yet, but please go get your hormones done and ask for estrogen, progesterone, testosterone. It's not just about your thyroid.

I think a lot of folks focus on their thyroid typically. ⁓ But I know for me personally, when I got my labs done, I had zero progesterone in my body. So there's no wonder I was waking up at 3 a.m.

every night and had insomnia. So progesterone helps with lowering cortisol levels, trying to establish a good nighttime, you know, before bed routine, cortisol levels, ⁓ ensuring that your room is pitch black dark and at 64 degrees, right? Sleeping in a cold bedroom as well. Michele DiMeo: Mm-hmm.

⁓ I love that. Actually, I gotta tell you something really funny. It's funny you said to sleep in a cold dark room because I used to make the room so cold. Jannaro would be like, I feel like I'm in a walk-in.

He used to come in and he'd be like, ⁓ my God, I'm in the walk-in freezer at the restaurant. And he'd say, Are you trying to like freeze me to my bones? He would get in the freeze to my bones. I'm like It's healthy for you.

It's healthy to sleep in cold. It's healthy for your your mind. It helps you sleep better. And it's funny because now we travel.

He's so used to sleeping in like a cooler environment that now when we travel, like certain rooms, he'll be like, ⁓ my God, it's so hot in here. And it'll be at like 67. He's like, Why is the hotel room so hot? I'm like, No, you're just used to sleeping in a walk-in box.

Jess Olmeda: Yes, you know what my husband's the same way I remember the first night he was like I'm gonna get frostbite and I'm like you're fine He was in a sleeping bag with like, you know, no, I'm not even kidding you He was in a sleeping bag with a blanket on top of him and wearing like LL bean socks like he was literally out in the frozen tundra and now the rooms at 64 degrees every night, know He he talks about that's a really important. I think that's really important to that.

You bring that up it is Michele DiMeo: It's funny. Jess Olmeda: So important, it's so important to have a spouse, a partner that supports you. And teamwork is so, important, right? All throughout life, it's just who doesn't want a partner that supports them?

But especially when you're figuring out how to navigate this like new you that you're becoming, it's even more important to have a supportive partner on your side. It can make it or break it. But cortisol, there was one other thing. Michele DiMeo: Yeah.

Yeah. So go back really quick. I know I know I I know I like changed the whole topic, but go back real quick about cortisol and stress because I know you and I are gonna just start laughing and talking and then we're gonna be all over the place. But I do want to focus on cortisol because it's such a hot topic right now.

And ⁓ I do want you to talk a little bit about what you're doing with Ellie. I don't know if you're allowed to mention the the ⁓ the website and some of the peptides and Different products that you're using in NAD. So talk a little bit about how that's helped you, what you're doing, how you've helped other people. Cause I mean, I watch everything that you're doing.

And I mean, I tried to do that. I'm not gonna lie to you, that NAD stuff. I mean, so okay, here we go. I'm gonna digress again.

But, you know, I I bought it and I was like, okay, I'm gonna try this, this NAD spray because I'm like, I'm not taking any more shots. So I go to put it up my nose and I was like, Jess Olmeda: Oof. Okay. Michele DiMeo: Okay, I'm really sensitive anyway.

So I was like, I'm just gonna try a teeny bit. I went, I was like, whoa! I mean, I screamed. It was it like it burned.

I felt it literally burn all the way up my nose into my brain. I was like, ⁓ okay, I'm gonna do that one time. Then I did on the left side. I was like, okay, the left side wasn't so bad.

I mean, I couldn't do it twice a day, every single day. Maybe my nose would go numb enough to the point where I didn't feel it. And maybe, but I mean. Jess Olmeda: Aww.

⁓ Thank Michele DiMeo: I do want to use it. So talk about what NAT is, what it does and the and what results you've seen because I hear amazing things. I might just have to go and do the shots and give into it. Jess Olmeda: Thanks.

Okay, yes, so NAD plus is absolutely fabulous. It's a coenzyme that we all are born with in our bodies and as we get older, the levels start to decrease. So in our 30s, it decreases by like 35 to 40 % and then as soon as we hit the age of 40 for some reason, I don't know why the universe decided that was the magic number. Yeah, like who made that up mother nature?

Michele DiMeo: Ha ha ha Jess Olmeda: But the NED plus levels decline by 50%. So, it's, no, it's meant to, it's meant to, and it's essentially your body's power plant. It's like where AMPK is made and it's your body's power plant. So it's literally what helps you recover faster.

It's what energizes you. It's just literally how our body gets and processes energy. Michele DiMeo: Does it decline in men too or only women? Wow.

Jess Olmeda: So I started learning about it. So when I started my, I went for my labs back in November of last year and I got everything tested, which is why I keep talking about, you know, it's really important to get your labs done, the estrogen, the testosterone, the progesterone. ⁓ And then a friend of ours at the gym, I noticed that she started, ⁓ she shared with me that she started taking peptides. Michele DiMeo: Mm-hmm.

Jess Olmeda: ⁓ to include like terzepatide, I know we're talking about the NAD +, and NAD +, isn't a peptide, but it's kind of like in the same realm, it's a sub Q injection. And I kind of just sat back and watched her results for three months because she was feeling puffy and felt like she was spinning her wheels and all of the nutrition and the movement and everything that once worked, it stopped working. ⁓ Michele DiMeo: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Jess Olmeda: and the inflammation just, it started to leave her body. It helps with insulin resistance, the NAD plus specifically. I take it three times a week and I don't get energy crashes in the afternoon anymore. I mean, I used to drink probably like four to 600 milligrams of caffeine.

I know I'm not the only one. You know, you need the caffeine. I'm not. Michele DiMeo: Wow, that's a lot of caffeine.

I don't drink any I don't drink any caffeine. I I just started drinking iced coffee. I didn't even I never used to even drink coffee because I'm so caffeine sensitive. But then I started liking the taste of iced coffee.

So now I have an iced coffee. But you know what I do find if I don't have it, I get a headache. So now I have to have it. Which now I'm in that like caffeine circle because I'm so sensitive to caffeine, you know?

Jess Olmeda: Mmm. ⁓ yeah, your body's like, I just... Maybe that's why the NED plus major nostrils burn. I don't know.

Michele DiMeo: Why maybe from the sensitivity? I would love to know because I'm so sensitive to every medication. Like if there's a side effect, there's like if they give you the, you know, they do the commercial and they're like, ⁓ well, you know, take this medication and then it could then they give you like the 30 minute side effect of it could cause this, it could cause that, blah, blah, blah, blah. You know, that would be me.

I would have every side effect that they would list as the back end because I'm so sensitive to medication. So I was so afraid to try, and then I was like, Jess Olmeda: Aww. Michele DiMeo: Okay, that's it. But I want I want the benefits of it.

So I might have to try it because you do it ⁓ w by the shots. You don't do the nose spray, right? Jess Olmeda: You're like, woo! No, I don't do no spray.

And I only do sub-Q injections. And I did a lot of research on it right before I decided to put something into my body. But the sub-Q injections, especially for 40 plus, it bypasses your liver and your digestive system, and it goes straight into your bloodstream. So that's typically why I choose to do the sub-Q injections versus the nasal spray.

mean, but NAD plus has just been absolutely fabulous. Like my workouts feel better. Michele DiMeo: Hmm. Jess Olmeda: my recovery feels better.

⁓ Like I said, I'm down to like one or two, I still like to have my morning cup of coffee and sometimes I'll have one at lunch, but I used to crash, I used to flatline at like three o'clock. Yes, I don't do lids. I'm not, can we just talk about really quickly how we went to brunch for my birthday? You're so sweet, we did like a psycho class and brunch and then you were like, Jess, here I bought you this.

Michele DiMeo: You mean your coffee without the lid? Jess Olmeda: this coffee cup with a lid because I roll up to the gym. I just don't like lids. I don't know why when I drive I don't have a lid.

I don't have lids on anything. Lids are not for me. They're not for Jessel and Ada. Michele DiMeo: With a lid.

It it's fun it and you're like you come into cycle class and the first thing you say is, ⁓ I never spill everything. ⁓ sorry, guess not today. I was like, Okay, she needs a coffee cup with a lid. Jess Olmeda: RRRR And he spilled it all over the floor.

Yes. Michele DiMeo: That's okay. So, what other peptides would you recommend? So, why we're talking about true peptides, because there's a lot of them.

and talk about what you do with Ellie. So you do have a company you work with that you do rep a lot of their pro their products. not only the GLPs, but you do the NAD and there's other, is it NAD or NAD? I've heard everybody say different things.

Is what do you refer to technically? Is it N A D? Jess Olmeda: Thank you. I call it NAD +, yeah.

But I mean, guess we could call it NAD +, too. I'm sure people, I'm sure, you know what, call it whatever you want to call it because who the F cares? NAD, NAD +, whatever you want to call it. It doesn't matter.

It's those three letters. Michele DiMeo: Okay. Okay, perfect. Okay, so what other products do they sell that also could help with mindset?

And, you know, because one of the things that I know for women as they get older, it's not just about feeling good, it's also about confidence and body image. Because, you know, you look in that mirror and you go, first off, you're getting older, everything changes, your hair changes, your skin changes. I mean, you the way you look in the mirror, you look in the mirror and you think you look one way, and then what's coming back at you out of the mirror is like, who the hell is that person, right?

⁓ and it's like, okay, good thing for all the filters because you need to like put a filter on yourself. And that affects body image and confidence. And you know, so everybody's looking for the fountain youth and and what's out there that they can take. So are there any other supplements or anything that you've seen helping with Ellie or working with Ellie and helping people that could help make those changes and help with mindset and confidence and body image?

Jess Olmeda: ⁓ I mean, I would say, and right, it's, I like how you said that, right? Cause it's really kind of have to find what recipe works best for your body. But yes, the provider that I work with, that you mentioned has a fabulous line of peptides. ⁓ You already kind of talked about the GOP, which I will say, There's a lot of stigma around DLP's.

No one should poo poo that right? They can be that was the number one game changer for me because I had their life changing right? Anyone that says. Michele DiMeo: They're life changing.

Jess Olmeda: If it's not for you, it's not for you, but it's not cheating for me, right? And don't you tell me it's cheating. If you know what I mean, if you haven't done your research and educated yourself, I had like 15. Michele DiMeo: you know what once not to cut you off but not everybody does it for weight loss you know there's people that take it for health reasons i mean like I know doctors that take it and a year ago they were all like ⁓ my god don't take it it's weight loss you shouldn't be doing this you shouldn't be doing that and now there's so many people that I know that are doctors that are microdosing similar to ⁓ you know I I had a horrible reaction from semiglutide I told you that I tried it with the microdosing and it it like it made me sick.

It slowed my entire body down. So, you know, knowing what works for you and what doesn't, you know, terzepatide doesn't have the same side effect. So like you said, the recipes so important and knowing what works for you and what doesn't. And, you know, I was with somebody this past weekend, again, doctor, surgeon, a year ago, hell no, don't take it.

Now he's taking it too, just for cardiovascular health and, you know, and inflammation and and other health reasons where they told him to take it. So it's like you don't know, you hear, I feel like whoever you talk to tells you something different, you know? And you have to find, like you said, we started the show by saying advocate for yourself. You have to know and advocate for yourself.

If something works, you know, you gotta do it. It doesn't who cares what somebody else is doing? I mean, you say this all the time when we're on a bike. You show up for yourself.

You're not showing up for somebody else and who cares what they're doing. You know, it's it's important how you feel when you do it. So don't be afraid to ask or like when we get to the end of the show and I say, just how can they find you and and how can you help people out there, whether it's through exercise or consulting or diet or peptides or GLP, they can't be afraid to ask for because somebody says to them, ⁓ my God, that's a weight loss drug and you shouldn't or that's a, you know, diabetes drug and you shouldn't be taking that.

Jess Olmeda: Absolutely, you know what I have, I run like a little, and I'll talk about those peptides, but you just made me think of something. I run a little accountability group on Instagram, right? And it's for, it's just literally for women who are on GLPs that maybe are starting to move their bodies again, right? Nutrition, it's just a big support group.

And I had one of my ladies share with me, maybe it was like a couple weeks ago that, she hopped on the GLP-1 journey, right? Her doctors weren't listening to her. She went to her doctor twice. They were gaslighting her.

They told her to push away from the table, literally drink water, try to figure it out. So, which is like absolutely ridiculous, right? Advocate for yourself. So she started, she started the teresepatide.

She started NAD+. She decided to share it with someone who she calls a friend. And the response she got from them was, don't understand why you're doing that. You're cheating.

It's not gonna help you. You should be ashamed of yourself. I mean, so it's just literally, you have to look out, you have to look up for you. And in my opinion, that's not a friend, right?

A friend would listen to you. You don't share something with them and then they come back telling you why it's so bad for them or why they would never do it. ⁓ But to get back to your question, so semaglutide is, I like to explain it in terms of like an iPhone update, right? Semaglutide was like version 1.

0. So you hear about the constipation issues, the stomach issues, the gut lining. It has a lot of side effects. Triseptide is the 2.

0 update. So it's a GLP and a GIP and it acts on two hormone receptors. And it's about 23 to 26 % more effective ⁓ with regards to weight loss. So typically, didn't use, I microdosed like you talked about.

I microdosed it right now. ⁓ Michele DiMeo: And you did great with it. I mean, you did it for health, but you wound up losing weight and it made you I mean I mean, I noticed it right away, like in your skin and your coloring. And I mean, I was like, what are you doing?

And you didn't tell me you were doing it. But the first thing I said is, okay, what are you doing and how do you look so good? Right. Jess Olmeda: Yes, yes.

like, it's really it was life changing, like the inflammation left my body like right away. And my my weight loss trajectory was good. And I was able to maintain pretty much all of my muscle too, because like I said in the beginning, those you need to keep your habits, right? intact so you have to make sure that because sometimes when that food noise dulls because it does take away the food noise and that is all that is also wild right so you're not maybe creating the cookie so much or maybe you're going from having two glasses of wine to one glass of wine because I can't let go of the wine I like to have my glass of wine or the Prosecco especially in the hospitality industry right ⁓ that that's never going away ⁓ Michele DiMeo: ⁓ yeah, me too.

Right, exactly. Jess Olmeda: And then for the cardiovascular benefits and the skin, and even with NAD +, I've noticed too that my skin feels brighter. There's also GHKCU, which is a copper peptide, and that boosts collagen from the inside out, and it's fabulous for your hair, skin, and nails. We talk about libido, right?

There's a peptide called PT-141, which is fabulous for... sexual health because that's really important too, right? You don't want to lose your libido or human beings, okay? Making babies, doing all the things, it's important, it matters.

There's a clopeptide, there's ⁓ epimerelin, tessamerelin, semerelin, there's a sleep peptide, ⁓ peptides for muscle preservation. I mean, literally, there are so many peptides and our bodies are already creating them. So what a time to be alive in 2026, right? Where maybe we don't, they have peptides for mental clarity focus, ones that ⁓ are similar to Adderall, right?

But it's not a prescription drug. It's something that your body already makes. There's CMAX, there's C-Link. I mean, literally the peptide catalog is endless and it's fantastic and it's exciting.

It's great, great, great therapy to be able to support your body. ⁓ and make you feel your best, absolute best. So you can show it for yourself, so you can show it for others, everyone else who needs you to be there. Michele DiMeo: Yeah.

So what would you say are three simple things that women can start doing today? So we've talked about so many things, exercise and diet and peptides and nutrition and protein and I mean it's so overwhelming. So for the average person listening and they're sitting there sitting on the couch going, ⁓ my God, I gotta make that change and I'm gonna do it today. We motivated you to make it happen.

What would you say are three simple things you can start today to make that change? Jess Olmeda: Thank So protein, lead with protein, right? Cottage cheese, yogurt, beef sticks, chia seed pudding, chicken, right? There's so many, a shake, a smoothie.

I would say start leading all of your meals with protein. She should always be, I don't know why I refer to protein as a she, but I like it. She's the leader of the pack. That's what I say to everybody.

For some reason, she's a she, not a he. But if you're a he and you wanna lead with he, Do whatever you're gonna do, but protein, protein, protein is your first P. ⁓ What else? What is good?

If you can try to get some movement in, get some movement in and don't be afraid to start, right? If you wait to be motivated, you'll never be motivated. We have to create our own motivation, all right? So go for a walk, maybe press play on a video on Apple Fitness or ask a friend to do something with you or, know.

go to a gym, get a guest pass, movement, try to get in some movement. And then I would say get your labs tested. Get your labs tested for sure. It might take you a little bit.

You might have to go to multiple doctors, but I really would go get out there and get your labs tested to see where you're at. Michele DiMeo: There's actually ⁓ there's actually tests you can do at home now. I don't know if you've done it. I actually did it.

It's like a little thing that sticks on and it kind of drips down into a tube and then you mail that tube off and it gives you a full breakdown of all your labs. I actually did it for myself. It's so cool. So you can actually order it from a lab.

You don't have to go to a lab anymore. And it's ⁓ it looks like a dot and it sticks to the dot. And when you press the button, it's like a almost like what a diabetes, you know, when you have diabetes and they take it from your finger. Jess Olmeda: OOF Michele DiMeo: It's the same thing and it like pokes your skin and that thing sticks on there and the blood just drips into a thing, drip, drip, drip for like forty half hour and you walk around, do stuff, you don't even know it's dripping.

And then you unscrew it, you throw the little button thing out and you send that little thing off and you get in forty eight hours, you get all of your laps. All of them. It's it was amazing. I did it right from home.

Jess Olmeda: Whoo! So it's like a, it's a full panel. Michele DiMeo: Yeah. They did well, they this one tested for like cortisone, ⁓ you know, like estrogen.

It just it tests like women's health type things. It's it's not everything, but I mean it's enough that you get an idea. And it gave me like the top 10 or 12 things. Super cool.

And then you can actually change the little tubes too. So if it's like depending on what they're testing for, like you can do one tube, two tubes. It was super cool. I did it.

Like thirty days ago or forty five days ago. You don't even have to go to a lab if you don't want to anymore. Everything's they're making everything so easy. Jess Olmeda: Was it pain?

I know, was it painless? Was it okay? just... Michele DiMeo: Yeah.

I I mean, at first I was like, ⁓ okay. Like I it just it it shocks me a little bit because it's like, ⁓ you know, like the little red button at Staples where it's like, order this, order this. Yes, yeah, you know, the little red button. It looks like that.

So you stick it on and there's a red button and you like hit it. And I was like, ⁓ okay, didn't expect something to like come out and like bite you, you know, like 'cause it has like a little razor that comes out and like snaps your skin. But Jess Olmeda: Yeah. Michele DiMeo: It was great.

And I just kind of walked around and made the bed, did all kinds of stuff. And then I was like, ⁓ that one's full. Unscrewed it, put another one on and just walked around. It was so easy.

It was super easy. Jess Olmeda: That's super cool, I love that! Michele DiMeo: Yeah. So I mean there's no excuse.

So if you know, some people are like, ⁓ I don't want to go to the lab or too many sick people, blah. No excuses. You can actually do it at home now. I mean, you can do everything at home now.

Since COVID, you could do everything at home now. Jess Olmeda: I know, that's true, I know. You can get your peptides from at home, you can get your labs done at home. Michele DiMeo: Okay, you can even nowadays you can door dash prescriptions.

Like, what the hell? Amazon delivers drugs to your house now. So it's like there's no excuse. There's no, yeah, you can literally have your drugs delivered, which is the craziest thing.

But all right, again, we're digressing. So before the show ends, because we're we're running out of this happens every show. We run out of time. I get to 40 minutes and I'm like, ⁓ my God, I missed all of my bullet points.

We've touched on three. But before we go, ⁓ we have to do my lightning round questions because I ask all my guests different questions. And I you know the first question I'm gonna ask you, coffee or workout first? Jess Olmeda: coffee.

Michele DiMeo: Yeah, with no lid. Jess Olmeda: With no lid, cause we the FKR- Michele DiMeo: All right, you kinda answered this one already. Cardio or weights? Jess Olmeda: weights, but I love an indoor cycling class, okay?

That moves, that makes me sizzle in all the places, okay? Michele DiMeo: ⁓ Jess Olmeda: Don't cut that. Michele DiMeo: Biggest nutrition myth. Jess Olmeda: Biggest nutrition myth.

⁓ Just because something says it's high in protein doesn't mean it's high in protein. Michele DiMeo: I ⁓ I agree with that. Because you know what? It could be high in sugar and then it negates the protein.

Like some protein bars. Jess Olmeda: Yes. Yes. So if you have a protein bar that has 20 grams of protein in it, you add a zero and that bar should be 200 calories or less.

So if you have a bar that has 20 grams of protein in it and the calorie count is 380, nope, not for you. is not the correct, yes, it is not the correct ratio of protein that should be in that bar. They're gas lighting you. Michele DiMeo: Really?

Okay, I never knew that. That's super cool. Huh. One food every woman should eat more of.

Jess Olmeda: Hmm. protein. Michele DiMeo: I knew you were gonna say ⁓ that. All right, one habit to drop immediately and it's not drinking.

I'm not gonna stop drinking wine, so come up with a different habit. Jess Olmeda: Hmm. Michele DiMeo: I'm not letting you use that answer. Jess Olmeda: would say less screen time on the phone.

Michele DiMeo: Yeah. You know what? That goes back to what you said. so many people, the first thing they do and get is they get in bed and they like they check their email, they check their text.

I mean, I do it because you're so busy all day long and I finally get Vivi to bed and then I'm like, I sit down, the first thing I do is look at the phone and they say looking at a phone and blue light disrupts all sleep patterns. And everybody does it. Everybody picks up the phone before they go to bed. It's crazy.

Jess Olmeda: I think it rewires your brain too. It has to because even with the kids on the iPads, they turn into like little gremlins, probably because their brains are smaller. I don't know. It's like they go on that thing for 30 minutes and then they're like, you're not my child.

Who are you? So I'm sure it the same to our brains as adults. So less screen time and more creatine. Michele DiMeo: Ha ha ha Okay.

worst habit that hospitality workers have when it comes to health. Think if you worked in a restaurant, what's the worst habit they have when it comes to health and being healthy? Jess Olmeda: ⁓ I would say late night eating. Michele DiMeo: That's what I was gonna say.

⁓ my god, that's the worst. We all that's I think that was my kiss of death always. Always. You know, because you work until nine, nine thirty and then you know what happens.

You sit down and have dinner at ten o'clock. It's the worst thing ever. Jess Olmeda: Did you know that you're supposed I say supposed to, you're supposed to not eat. two hours before you go to bed because it, like your digestive system can disrupt your sleep schedule.

Like it's all connected, it's crazy. But that's hard to do. So we just have to try, we just have to try our best. Cause we're not gonna be able to do everything.

We just have to show up and try to be consistent and just try, just try your best. Michele DiMeo: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

So I have to tell you, I mean, I'm laughing because as I'm talking to you about the worst habits in hospitality, Steve's texting me bad habits that our ex employees had. So I'm trying not to laugh because he's sending me texts and I'm like, okay, Steve, that's not for this show, but we'll just keep going. Jess Olmeda: He's like, wrap it up ladies, wrap it up. Michele DiMeo: Wrap it up.

Anyway, so as always, this is another amazing episode of Dina Dish. You got to meet my very good friend Jess. She's very entertaining, not only on TV and on my podcast, but she's also entertaining in cycle class. That's why I continue to come back.

You know, I do have to say though, you know, you are so motivating on the bike. But what's very cool about cycle class, and a lot of people don't know this, it's also a time for where you can reflect, you know, and you get that time to dedicate and you get time to really figure out your three minutes or four minutes and you talk through like this is your empowerment, this is your time to take that space and time before you go to work or whatever. And that's what I love. You know, it's not just about the exercise because I can bike at home.

I have a Peloton, but Peloton's freaking boring because you don't have a jest in the front of the room. So, you know, for everybody listening, you know, you have to find your recipe, whether it's, you know, getting in a gym and finding your excitement and your whether it's for health or weight loss or whatever you're doing it for, but it's there for motivation. And I love the fact that you said movement is medicine because it is for me. And, you know, for everybody that's sitting out there that are sitting on the couch watching my my podcast and watching you and I laugh and talk, there is somebody out there that needs to make a change.

And we're here to inspire and motivate and change people's lives. We do it in the restaurant, you do it in the gym. We do it every day in in some way, shape or form. So before we leave, You know, wrap it up and tell somebody out there that's motivated or wants to change what's one thing that they can do or one thing that you feel would make them feel stronger, feel better, feel healthier, and get off that couch and do something better.

What would be your one tip that you want to leave everybody with today? Jess Olmeda: Hmm. Michele DiMeo: I know there's a lot, but pick the top one. Jess Olmeda: I know, there is a lot.

I'm just trying to remember when I felt... Michele DiMeo: What motivated you to change? Jess Olmeda: ⁓ my goodness, what a question. I literally, I hit rock bottom.

I hit rock bottom. I was drowning in work. Family was super busy. I had this crazy job when I was stationed in Miami and I literally was working like 13, 14 hours a day, probably similar to hospitality in the restaurant industry.

⁓ I didn't make any time for myself and I was indulging in wine way too much, right? That was my vice. And I literally just looked in the mirror one day and I was just so, I was just so sad. And I knew that I meant for so much more, ⁓ just lies.

And I knew that there was a stronger woman inside than what I saw in the mirror. than what my reflection was. And I signed up for a cycling class and it was 60 minutes long. It was actually outside on the waterfront.

Did you know that they put me in the front row? And I cried through the entire, I cried through the entire class. Michele DiMeo: Awww. Yeah, but look at you today from it.

Jess Olmeda: So that's why don't, don't just don't be afraid. Don't be afraid. Don't think about what someone's going to think of you, right? Maybe working out right next to you.

If it's in a group fitness class, literally the only person someone cares about when they're in a fitness class is themselves, but it's really easy to think, right? To feel the energy of the room or what the expectations of the room are going to be. So Just get out there and do it. Speak loudly about all the things, right?

Find help, reach out to me. I would love to connect. ⁓ But just get out there and do the thing. Because life is too short.

And there is something beautiful ⁓ that sparks from doing the hard thing. It really, really is. Michele DiMeo: Yeah. Yeah.

So I laughed. Wait. You did. You did.

But because, you know, sometimes it just takes that motivation. But I have to tell you why I laughed when you mentioned the front row. Because I don't usually ride the front row. I I love the middle row because then, you know, you're not the leader in the front because the front is, you know, you have to have your sh your shit together.

So I love bike 16, but I was in bike six, okay? And I was next to Lori. And I literally looked at her and I said, ⁓ Jess Olmeda: I don't know if I answered your question though. It's bike 16, bike 16.

Michele DiMeo: You better be nice to me today. Because, you know, you're standing right next, you sit right next to the instructor. And I'm like, ⁓ my God. Like it is a little intimidating when you're in the front because everybody's behind you.

And they look, they're like, ⁓ the front riders are the best, you know? And it takes time to get there. So I mean, that's why I kind of laugh because it's like, who puts somebody in the front? Like, ⁓ my God, that's stressful.

And okay, again, I'm digressing. But anyway, for everybody listening, Jess, how can they find you? How can everybody find you? Jess Olmeda: Okay, so, So Instagram is pretty much my platform that I use.

I'm Jess underscore olmeda, O-L-M-E-D-A. Nice and simple. Michele DiMeo: Yeah. And you know what?

Reach out to her because she's super cool and fun and motivating and has so much information. And, you know, I have to say, again, an hour went by and we're supposed to stay at 40 minutes, but this is such a hot topic right now. And health and hormones and hospitality. And you know, it doesn't matter what field you're in, you have to take care of yourself because if you don't, you can't take care of others.

And that's whether you're a mom, you're a dad. You're in the restaurant, you're in the military, you're a lawyer, you're a doctor, it doesn't matter what field you're in, you have to take care of yourself. And today health is so important because, like you said, life is short and you gotta take care of yourself first. And once you hit 40, because that's what you say, like who picked 40 out of the world?

But it's true. 40 is like, what the hell? Then you get to 50 and you're like, what the hell? Then you get to 55 and you're like, all right, you gotta freaking get your butt out of the chair and do something, right?

Jess Olmeda: Woo! Michele DiMeo: But it is like life is just so weird how things change. So, Jess, as always, you're an amazing guest. And thank you for coming on my show.

And for everybody listening, you always know where to find me. You can DM me on Instagram. You can go to restaurantdeva.com.

You can call my office. You can email me. We're always looking for amazing guests. And Jess, I will see you.

⁓ I won't see you Sunday. It's BB's dance recital. But I'll see you at the gym this week. And thank you so much for being my guest and love you.

Jess Olmeda: Okay, sounds good. Thank you for having me. Michele DiMeo: And I'll see you soon. And everybody, that's another episode of Dine and Dish.

And we will see everybody next week. Bye.