Episode 110 - Why Your List Isn’t Growing (Leading vs Lagging Indicators Explained)
Create Online Business Success! · 2026-06-25 · 9 min
Substance score
22 / 100
Five dimensions, 20 points each
Tracy Beavers explains the difference between leading indicators (controllable actions like posting content, inviting people to your list, and having conversations) and lagging indicators (uncontrollable results like sales, subscribers, and revenue), and argues that entrepreneurs often focus on the wrong metrics and need to shift their attention to consistent, deliberate actions rather than obsessing over daily results.
Key takeaways
- Stop obsessing over lagging indicators like email subscriber count and sales daily; instead, focus on leading indicators - the specific actions you can control like inviting people to join your list, creating visibility, and starting conversations.
- Building an email list requires a three-part framework: visibility alone doesn't work; you need visibility plus invitation plus connection to generate consistent leads and conversions.
- Check your analytics once per month rather than daily, because lagging indicators take time to materialize and daily checking creates false urgency that leads to unnecessary pivots and strategy changes.
- Ask yourself what specific actions you're doing consistently each week to grow your list rather than asking why your list isn't growing, which shifts focus from results to repeatable processes.
- Business building is a long-term game requiring patience and consistency; doing the right actions this week may not show immediate results, but this doesn't mean it's not working.
What our scoring noted
Our reviewer’s read on each dimension, with quotes from the episode.
Insight Density
The episode conveys one legitimate concept - distinguishing leading from lagging indicators - but devotes most of its 9 minutes to restating the same idea repeatedly plus promotional content for the host's programs. There are no novel claims per minute beyond the single reframed insight, and the back half is almost entirely filler and self-promotion.
You cannot control your lagging indicators because the market decides those.
Building a business takes time, patience, consistency. I know you're so sick of me saying that, but it's the truth.
Originality
The leading vs. lagging indicators framework is decades-old management science (balanced scorecard, OKRs) with no novel angle or contrarian application here. The 'visibility + invitation + connection' formula is common sense repackaged, and there is no first-principles reasoning or counterintuitive claim anywhere in the episode.
Lagging indicators, it's a super fancy name, for your results.
Visibility is the invitation, it's the connection that gives you leads.
Guest Caliber
This is a solo-host monologue with no guest; the host is a solopreneur business coach targeting other solopreneurs, not a senior B2B operator who has built or scaled anything at meaningful scope. Relevance to a B2B operator audience is minimal.
I'm your host, Tracy Beavers, and this show is all about practical strategies, creative ideas, and sanity saving solutions
I see this all the time with my business visibility made easy students. You guys know that's my eight-week group coaching accelerator.
Specificity & Evidence
There are virtually no concrete numbers, named companies, case studies, or measurable outcomes cited in the entire episode. The only approximation of specificity is a single off-hand mention of a personal tracking cadence, which is itself vague.
I do those once a month at the end of every month.
Are they leading to connections, conversations, relationships? Because that's what converts.
Conversational Craft
As a solo monologue there is no interviewer craft, follow-up questioning, or productive disagreement possible; the host uses rhetorical questions that go unanswered and unchallenged. The questions themselves are surface-level and do not push toward deeper specifics.
How often are you inviting people to your email list? Are you promoting your lead magnets?
Instead of asking, why isn't my list growing? I want you to start asking, what am I doing consistently each week to grow it?
Conversation analysis
Computed from the transcript - who did the talking, and the verbal tics along the way.
Filler words
Episode notes
Send Tracy a Text Message! :) If you’ve ever felt like you’re doing all the things…posting content, showing up online, trying to grow your email list…but the results just aren’t matching your effort, this episode is for you. Today, I’m breaking down one of the most important shifts you can make in your business: understanding the difference between leading indicators and lagging indicators. Most entrepreneurs are focused on the wrong things. They’re watching their sales, their subscriber count, and their engagement…wondering why things aren’t moving fast enough. But those are lagging indicators. They’re the result of actions, not the actions themselves. In this episode, I’m going to show you: What leading and lagging indicators actually are Why focusing on lagging indicators keeps you stuck The exact leading indicators I teach inside my programs to grow your email list and attract consistent clients If you’re ready to stop guessing and start growing your list and leads with intention, this episode will give you a whole new way to look at your business. Mentioned in this episode: Grab your VIP waitlist spot for the next round of “Business Visibility Made Easy®”.
Full transcript
9 minTranscribed and scored by The B2B Podcast Index.
1 00:00:00,000 - > 00:00:02,080 SPEAKER_00: You know that moment when you check your email list 2 00:00:02,240 - > 00:00:06,000 and it hasn't grown, and your brain immediately says, cool, 3 00:00:06,160 - > 00:00:07,519 something must be broken. 4 00:00:07,759 - > 00:00:10,320 So you start tweaking everything: your content, your 5 00:00:10,320 - > 00:00:13,679 offer, your messaging, when in reality, you might just be 6 00:00:13,679 - > 00:00:15,039 measuring the wrong things. 7 00:00:15,199 - > 00:00:17,199 Today, we're gonna fix that. 8 00:00:18,640 - > 00:00:21,120 Ready to grow your online business without losing your 9 00:00:21,120 - > 00:00:21,359 mind? 10 00:00:21,519 - > 00:00:23,120 You're in the right spot, my friend. 11 00:00:23,280 - > 00:00:25,760 Welcome to Create Your Online Business Success. 12 00:00:25,920 - > 00:00:29,519 I'm your host, Tracy Beavers, and this show is all about 13 00:00:29,519 - > 00:00:33,200 practical strategies, creative ideas, and sanity saving 14 00:00:33,200 - > 00:00:35,200 solutions that you can use right now. 15 00:00:35,359 - > 00:00:38,719 Let's crank up the dial on your business growth and make it fun. 16 00:00:38,880 - > 00:00:42,079 Let's create your online business success. 17 00:00:42,799 - > 00:00:45,439 So we're going to talk about one of the most important shifts you 18 00:00:45,439 - > 00:00:48,079 can make in your business if you want consistent visibility, 19 00:00:48,320 - > 00:00:50,960 steady email list growth, and actual leads coming in. 20 00:00:51,119 - > 00:00:52,320 And who doesn't want that? 21 00:00:52,479 - > 00:00:55,200 We're diving into leading versus lagging indicators. 22 00:00:55,439 - > 00:00:58,880 Sounds like a snooze fest, I know, but essentially it's a 23 00:00:58,880 - > 00:01:02,399 what we can control and should be measuring versus what we 24 00:01:02,399 - > 00:01:03,200 can't control. 25 00:01:03,520 - > 00:01:07,120 And once you see this, you can't unsee it, because it explains 26 00:01:07,120 - > 00:01:10,319 why so many smart, experienced entrepreneurs feel like they're 27 00:01:10,319 - > 00:01:12,879 doing everything right, but not getting the results they 28 00:01:12,879 - > 00:01:13,599 expected. 29 00:01:13,840 - > 00:01:15,599 So I want to make this super simple. 30 00:01:15,920 - > 00:01:20,480 Lagging indicators, it's a super fancy name, for your results. 31 00:01:20,719 - > 00:01:24,400 Those are things we cannot control, like sales, new email 32 00:01:24,400 - > 00:01:26,719 subscribers, booked calls, revenue. 33 00:01:26,959 - > 00:01:29,519 They tell you what already happened in your business. 34 00:01:29,680 - > 00:01:32,799 Now the leading indicators, another fancy word for saying 35 00:01:32,799 - > 00:01:35,200 what you can control, those are your actions. 36 00:01:35,359 - > 00:01:38,319 Things like posting content, inviting people to your email 37 00:01:38,319 - > 00:01:42,239 list, starting conversations in your DMs or your inbox, being 38 00:01:42,239 - > 00:01:44,879 visible in groups and communities and networking, 39 00:01:45,120 - > 00:01:47,519 inviting people to your free Facebook group or to listen to 40 00:01:47,519 - > 00:01:50,959 your podcast, or subscribe to your YouTube channel, join your 41 00:01:50,959 - > 00:01:54,640 program wait list, the fun ways we get our subscribers to reply 42 00:01:54,640 - > 00:01:57,040 back so we can have deeper conversations with them. 43 00:01:57,280 - > 00:02:00,159 These are the things that actually create your results. 44 00:02:00,400 - > 00:02:02,239 But here's where most people get stuck. 45 00:02:02,480 - > 00:02:05,680 They're focused almost entirely on lagging indicators. 46 00:02:05,920 - > 00:02:08,800 I see this all the time with my business visibility made easy 47 00:02:08,800 - > 00:02:09,199 students. 48 00:02:09,360 - > 00:02:11,280 You guys know that's my eight-week group coaching 49 00:02:11,280 - > 00:02:12,159 accelerator. 50 00:02:12,319 - > 00:02:16,000 And they are totally focused on those lagging indicators. 51 00:02:16,159 - > 00:02:18,560 They wake up and check, did I get a new subscriber? 52 00:02:18,719 - > 00:02:19,599 Did I make a sale? 53 00:02:19,759 - > 00:02:22,800 And when the answer is no, they assume something is broken. 54 00:02:22,960 - > 00:02:25,759 So they come to our live strategy call and they want to 55 00:02:25,759 - > 00:02:26,639 try to fix it. 56 00:02:26,719 - > 00:02:28,560 And they want to try to change everything. 57 00:02:28,800 - > 00:02:33,199 But here's the truth: you cannot control, I cannot control, my 58 00:02:33,199 - > 00:02:34,159 lagging indicators. 59 00:02:34,319 - > 00:02:37,439 You cannot control your lagging indicators because the market 60 00:02:37,439 - > 00:02:38,560 decides those. 61 00:02:38,800 - > 00:02:41,120 Your subscribers, your audience, your market. 62 00:02:41,520 - > 00:02:44,800 You can only control your leading indicators, the things 63 00:02:44,800 - > 00:02:47,039 that you are in charge of, your actions. 64 00:02:47,599 - > 00:02:50,479 So let's talk about this through the lens of list growth because 65 00:02:50,479 - > 00:02:52,080 this is where I see it all the time. 66 00:02:52,319 - > 00:02:55,919 Lagging indicators sound like my list isn't growing, I'm not 67 00:02:55,919 - > 00:02:58,000 getting leads, I'm not making sales. 68 00:02:58,240 - > 00:03:01,599 But when we look at the leading indicators, we can start asking 69 00:03:01,599 - > 00:03:02,560 better questions. 70 00:03:02,800 - > 00:03:05,520 I'm asking my students, how often are you inviting people to 71 00:03:05,520 - > 00:03:06,319 your email list? 72 00:03:06,479 - > 00:03:08,000 Are you promoting your lead magnets? 73 00:03:08,159 - > 00:03:10,000 Are you promoting your free Facebook group? 74 00:03:10,080 - > 00:03:13,120 And you know I teach that that should grow your list. 75 00:03:13,439 - > 00:03:15,280 How visible are you every week? 76 00:03:15,439 - > 00:03:17,039 I mean, are you really visible? 77 00:03:17,280 - > 00:03:20,879 And are you actually starting conversations in the inbox and 78 00:03:20,879 - > 00:03:21,759 in the DMs? 79 00:03:21,919 - > 00:03:24,400 Or are you waiting for people to come to you? 80 00:03:24,719 - > 00:03:27,120 Are you giving people a clear next step? 81 00:03:27,360 - > 00:03:30,400 Because here's the thing: our content will only do so much 82 00:03:30,400 - > 00:03:31,039 work for us. 83 00:03:31,199 - > 00:03:32,879 After that, it's up to us. 84 00:03:33,199 - > 00:03:35,039 We have to maintain that visibility. 85 00:03:35,199 - > 00:03:37,360 We have to be inviting people to join us. 86 00:03:37,520 - > 00:03:40,879 We have to be having conversations because visibility 87 00:03:40,879 - > 00:03:42,639 alone does not give you leads. 88 00:03:43,199 - > 00:03:46,319 So here's a simple framework that I want you to remember. 89 00:03:46,719 - > 00:03:51,680 Visibility is the invitation, it's the connection that gives 90 00:03:51,680 - > 00:03:52,240 you leads. 91 00:03:52,719 - > 00:03:55,919 If you're showing up but you're not inviting, you'll stay stuck. 92 00:03:56,159 - > 00:03:58,639 If you're inviting, but you're not connecting, you're gonna 93 00:03:58,639 - > 00:03:59,680 struggle to convert. 94 00:03:59,840 - > 00:04:02,159 And if you're not visible, none of it works. 95 00:04:02,319 - > 00:04:05,199 This is why things can feel inconsistent even when you're 96 00:04:05,199 - > 00:04:06,960 like, Tracy, I'm doing all the work. 97 00:04:07,680 - > 00:04:10,560 So instead of asking, why isn't my list growing? 98 00:04:10,719 - > 00:04:14,080 I want you to start asking, what am I doing consistently each 99 00:04:14,080 - > 00:04:15,120 week to grow it? 100 00:04:15,360 - > 00:04:18,399 Because that's where your power is, that's where my power is. 101 00:04:18,639 - > 00:04:20,959 Your power is not in checking your numbers. 102 00:04:21,120 - > 00:04:23,920 Although we do need to check our numbers and track our analytics. 103 00:04:24,240 - > 00:04:26,639 I do those once a month at the end of every month. 104 00:04:26,959 - > 00:04:30,399 The power is in the actions, the things that we can control, 105 00:04:30,560 - > 00:04:32,160 those leading indicators. 106 00:04:32,399 - > 00:04:34,959 And we also need to normalize something that people don't talk 107 00:04:34,959 - > 00:04:35,759 about enough. 108 00:04:36,160 - > 00:04:39,040 Lagging indicators, those take time. 109 00:04:39,279 - > 00:04:41,439 It takes time to grow an online business. 110 00:04:41,759 - > 00:04:45,519 I personally am tired of people thinking they can come into the 111 00:04:45,519 - > 00:04:48,079 online space, throw something out there, and it's gonna sell 112 00:04:48,079 - > 00:04:50,240 like hotcakes and they don't have to do any work. 113 00:04:50,480 - > 00:04:53,680 This is a business we are building, and it takes time, 114 00:04:53,920 - > 00:04:55,360 patience and consistency. 115 00:04:55,600 - > 00:04:59,040 You can do all the right things this week and still not see 116 00:04:59,040 - > 00:04:59,920 immediate results. 117 00:05:00,079 - > 00:05:01,680 That doesn't mean it's not working. 118 00:05:01,920 - > 00:05:04,399 It just means your results haven't caught up yet. 119 00:05:05,040 - > 00:05:08,399 So this is a long game, not a 24-hour feedback loop. 120 00:05:08,639 - > 00:05:11,680 Building a business takes time, patience, consistency. 121 00:05:11,839 - > 00:05:14,480 I know you're so sick of me saying that, but it's the truth. 122 00:05:14,800 - > 00:05:17,600 And this is exactly what I focus on inside my programs. 123 00:05:17,920 - > 00:05:21,680 Not just be more visible, but what are the right actions? 124 00:05:21,920 - > 00:05:23,439 How often are you doing them? 125 00:05:23,759 - > 00:05:26,319 Are they actually leading to list growth and leads? 126 00:05:26,480 - > 00:05:30,800 Are they leading to connections, conversations, relationships? 127 00:05:31,120 - > 00:05:32,720 Because that's what converts. 128 00:05:32,959 - > 00:05:35,839 Because once you look, you lock in those leading indicators, 129 00:05:36,000 - > 00:05:39,600 those things you can control, your lagging indicators will 130 00:05:39,600 - > 00:05:41,040 start to take care of themselves. 131 00:05:41,360 - > 00:05:42,639 And it's really cool. 132 00:05:42,879 - > 00:05:46,160 So here's the thing: if things feel slow right now, before you 133 00:05:46,160 - > 00:05:48,720 go change your content, before you throw the baby out with the 134 00:05:48,720 - > 00:05:51,360 bathwater, changing your content, changing your offer, 135 00:05:51,439 - > 00:05:55,199 changing your entire strategy, pause and ask yourself, what am 136 00:05:55,199 - > 00:05:58,399 I actually doing consistently and be honest? 137 00:05:58,639 - > 00:06:00,560 That would create the result that I want. 138 00:06:00,720 - > 00:06:03,920 And is what I'm doing leading to conversations with my audience? 139 00:06:04,160 - > 00:06:06,800 Because that one question can change everything. 140 00:06:06,959 - > 00:06:09,839 And if you want help turning up your visibility into daily list 141 00:06:09,839 - > 00:06:14,240 growth and actual leads, that is exactly what I teach inside my 142 00:06:14,240 - > 00:06:17,199 eight-week group coaching accelerator called Business 143 00:06:17,199 - > 00:06:18,399 Visibility Made Easy. 144 00:06:18,480 - > 00:06:22,240 And it's also what I teach my elite one-to-one private 145 00:06:22,240 - 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