
Craft of Consulting Podcast · 2024-01-01 · 51 min
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29 / 100
Five dimensions, 20 points each
As Deb Zahr concludes the weekly run of the Craft of Consulting podcast to focus on a book about pricing consulting services, LinkedIn trainings, and the Craft of Consulting membership community, she distills her most actionable advice for consultants. The episode emphasizes five core principles: being genuinely generous with knowledge and insights (not pro bono work, but strategic value-sharing that builds credibility and trust), caring deeply about client problems and aspirations in ways that feel authentic rather than transactional, and maintaining clarity and focus in your business positioning. Zahr illustrates generosity through her federal grant work, where she shares winning strategies upfront and sometimes advises clients not to hire her if a grant isn't competitive - building trust and demonstrating true value rather than hoarding expertise until payment. She contrasts this with generosity toward other consultants: referring business, partnering on projects, and being known as someone who advocates for others. The second principle centers on authentic client relationships grounded in empathy - remembering your own experiences of feeling overwhelmed or uncertain to connect with prospects, and showing care for outcomes over closing deals. Zahr stresses that clients can sense the difference between consultants who genuinely care versus those focused primarily on billing. This episode is essential for independent consultants and boutique firms seeking to differentiate through values-driven positioning.
Share strategic knowledge, insights, and examples upfront to demonstrate your value and build trust with prospects - for example, explaining winning strategies or assessment frameworks. This differs from pro bono work because you're giving them an experience of your thinking without delivering a finished deliverable, and you maintain boundaries on scope and billing once an engagement begins.
Empathize with their frustrations and aspirations by recalling your own experiences of feeling overwhelmed or uncertain, ask deeper discovery questions to understand their situation fully, and focus intently on getting them results - while maintaining the boundary that you treat their problems as you would a friend's, not as your own emotional burden.
If you assess that a prospect isn't competitive for a grant or likely to achieve their goal, advising them not to proceed (and not to pay you further) demonstrates that you prioritize their interests over revenue, builds enormous trust, and shows that your real value lies in strategy and discernment, not just executing work.
Generosity with information and insights is intentional and bounded; scope creep occurs when client expectations expand without renegotiating budget or deliverables. Draw the line by paying attention to whether an interaction feels good and aligned with your values - if you feel taken advantage of, adjust your boundaries and have direct conversations about scope.
Being known as someone who recommends and advocates for others builds trust and authentic relationships in your market; people remember and reciprocate generosity, leading to referrals, partnership opportunities, and a reputation as a trusted community member rather than someone only focused on your own deals.
Our reviewer’s read on each dimension, with quotes from the episode.
The episode delivers five broadly useful principles for solo consultants, but most are well-worn (generosity, care for clients, niching, solution focus, self-kindness) and the runtime is heavily diluted by farewell remarks, personal anecdotes, and repetitive phrasing. The federal grant example is the most substantive moment, but even that is surrounded by padding.
I have a success rate of over 90%. So over 90% of the federal grants that I help clients with actually end up getting awarded.
I have been delaying doing this podcast much longer than I should have, and I'm at the point now where I actually have to do it in order for it to be edited in time.
Every tip recycles standard coaching-world doctrine: niche down, be generous, care about clients, adopt a growth mindset, practice self-compassion. The Match.com analogy is a fresh illustration but the underlying idea (specificity attracts the right buyer) is ubiquitous. No genuinely counterintuitive or first-principles argument is made.
every experience a client has with you tells you what it's like to work with you, I say that over and over again
perfectionism, as I've said before, it is a mindset trap. It is hell bent on keeping you stuck
This is a solo farewell episode with no guest; the host is a consulting business coach with 13 years of experience who primarily serves nonprofits on grants. That is genuine practitioner experience, but the transcript reveals no evidence of operating at meaningful scale, and the caliber benchmark for this dimension is largely unreachable in a guest-free format.
I have built an entire consulting business, a very successful consulting business, based on generosity.
I'm also working on a book and I'm about a third of a way done. I'm doing a entire book all about pricing your consulting services.
The episode supplies a handful of concrete anchors - a stated 90%-plus federal grant win rate, specific buyer persona parameters ($20 - 60M nonprofit budgets, 250 - 1,000 employee HR-director targets), and a named problem-solving heuristic - but the majority of claims remain at the level of anecdote and assertion without verifiable data or named client examples.
I have a success rate of over 90%. So over 90% of the federal grants that I help clients with actually end up getting awarded.
if you know that your buyer is a CEO of not a non profit organization in the educational industry in the United States and that you're looking at companies that are your organizations that have a budget of, you know, 20 to 60 million dollars
This is an uninterrupted solo monologue; there is no interviewer, no follow-up questions, and no productive tension. The host does occasionally anticipate objections (e.g., 'shouldn't I just say I can work for anybody?'), which is the closest the episode comes to conversational push, but the format structurally forecloses any real craft in this dimension.
I recognize every time I say this, there's always consultants, and I used to be one of them, but there's always consultants where that just feels wrong, that feels so counterintuitive because shouldn't I just say I can work for anybody?
it's my last episode, so I'm just gonna be blunt. Screw that, right?
Computed from the transcript - who did the talking, and the words that came up most.
Host Deb Zahn shares her top 5 tips for building a consulting business in her final regular episode.
Transcribed and scored by The B2B Podcast Index.
Speaker A: Welcome to the Craft of Consulting podcast. The podcast where you learn the skills and know how to excel at consulting while living the life you want. And now your host, Deb Zahn.
Speaker B: Um, I want to welcome you to this week's episode of the Craft of Consulting podcast. So this is the last weekly episode that I'm going to be putting out, and I want to make sure that it's valuable to you. I got lots and lots of feelings that are coursing through my veins about this, but. But I am going to talk about some of my top advice. Like, if I leave you with anything, if you ever listen to anything I say, listen to this, because this is going to make all the difference in your consulting business and in your life. That's what I'm going to be going over today. And I have to admit, before I dive into that, I want to say a few things. I have been delaying doing this podcast much longer than I should have, and I'm at the point now where I actually have to do it in order for it to be edited in time. I've been, as I said to my husband, I think I've been procrastina, which is I've loved doing this podcast so much. And the thought of it suddenly not being part of, of how I'm able to serve people and help people become consultants is really, really tough. But you know what? I know I made the right decision, so I feel okay about it. I do want to reiterate that I'm not disappearing. So I'm still all about helping other consultants start build and grow their consulting business, including you. So you can still find me. I'm going to be still on LinkedIn, and that includes doing some free trainings. There's going to be a really great one on pricing models and how to price your consulting services. That's going to be coming up in February, all on LinkedIn. I'm also going to be on YouTube. I'm going to put more information on YouTube and, and actually more of my podcast archives are going to appear there. So if you actually want to do more than listen to it, that'll be a great place to go. And I'm going to be doing a who lot more in the Craft of Consulting membership. So I've got some wonderful, fabulous consultants that are in there now. And I'm going to be expanding the types of things that I do in that membership. I'm also going to pop up on other people's podcast. So I can't. Yeah, I can't resist getting behind the microphone and sharing things that I think would be helpful. So occasionally, I will appear somewhere else, and if you follow me on LinkedIn, you'll be able to see where those other appearances are. And. And then I may occasionally do a podcast. It's just going to be an ad hoc one where I think something important to say, or I meet someone who's fabulous, or there's someone in my membership that I really want them to be on a podcast, sharing what they know. So you might see one show up here and there, but you won't see a regular one. And as I said when I announced that I was doing this, I know what I'm going to be doing with the extra time I get by stopping this podcast, um, on a weekly basis. So I know that I'm going to spend a heck of a lot of more time with Mom. So we just ordered her an electronic bike. So at 83, she's actually been out there biking, doing her own thing. But we figure this, this will help make sure she can still do it. So it turns out I'm gonna buy one so that I can do it with her. So we're gonna have a lot more fun and do more outdoor activities. I'm gonna spend more time with my husband. I'm gonna be gardening. And when I'm in my garden, I'm not gon rushed. Like, oh, my gosh, I only have a certain amount of time, and. And I'm also going to have more ease when I'm doing other things I love. So, you know, baking bread, making something good to eat, that's the type of stuff that I want to make sure that I have the ample amount of time to enjoy those things in my life. And the thing is, is I want that for you, too, because that's kind of the whole point of being a consultant, right? Like, we talk about the freedom and flexibility and everything we want to get out of it. Well, why do we want that freedom and flexibility? And hopefully it's because we may absolutely love what we do, you know, when we're working, but there's other things that we love, too. And to be able to figure out a way to get those into proportions you want and knowing that that changes and will adjust over time. And sometimes it looks the way you want, sometimes it doesn't, but at least you're actively engaged in creating the life you want, that's what I'm going to be doing. So I want you to do that, too. But the other thing I haven't shared yet is that I'M also working on a book and I'm about a third of a way done. I'm doing a entire book all about pricing your consulting services. So you'll get a little taste of that in February when I do a training on LinkedIn. But this is, this other thing that I really want to devote my time to is, is taking all the information that I've gained from 13 years of consultant and the other smart people I know that I've had pricing conversations with and putting it in a book so that you've got sort of a go to resource when you have questions about what types of pricing models you should use and how you can actually build and construct them to make sure that you're, you know, being fair with clients, but you're getting paid for all of your value and ultimately you can support the income you want. So I can't tell you when it's coming out yet because I don't know. But this is something that I will be working on when I am not doing a podcast and I've shared a few chapters with folks who are like, oh, nom nom, give me more of that. So I'm going to make sure that that comes out. I'm going to be working on it this year and I will let you know when it comes back out again. That's probably when I'll do an ad hoc podcast, when I can announce to you when it's going to come out. But one thing that I want to do is, is, as I said, I want to give you sort of my, if you listen to nothing else I say, here's, here's the things that I actually think are most important when it comes to building your consulting business and having the life you want. And it was really hard to choose these things because obviously over this many episodes of having guests and doing my own episodes, I've had a lot to say. But I think I got it down to the five things that I have built my consulting business on. And I know that these are things that will make the biggest difference for you and for your business. So let me hit the first one. The first one is be generous to a fault. I think if I, if, if some of my consulting clients describe me, and I actually had one on recently, and this is close to what she said, is that she's never worried about picking up the phone and asking me, you know, for some quick advice or something because, you know, she knows that I'm a generous person and she knows that I'm willing to do that. And for me, I have built an entire consulting business, a very successful consulting business, based on generosity. I have a lot of other values that are important to me, and I do think it's really important to know what your values are. And generosity is one of the top ones. And so what I mean by that is don't hoard your best thinking and advice until you get paid. Like, everything, everything that you know and understand doesn't have to come out only when you're under a contract. And I think that's important because aside from like just being a good person, it's also the best way to demonstrate your value to potential clients and in your market, which is kind of what makes you a magnetic consultant. Because it's one thing to tell them, hey, I'm valuable. And it's. And to say, here's why I'm valuable. It's a another thing entirely to show them that you're valuable, to actually be able to demonstrate that and give them an experience of what that value is like. And I'll give one example. There's a lot of work I did when I first started as a consultant, and actually for many years is I would help, uh, some of the nonprofits I work with go after federal grants. And these are often really big, high stakes, very, very competitive, you know, federal grants ultimately to do things that are, that are really important for them to do. And now if I were going in more into that business today and I was going to try and do more of those federal grants, and I occasionally do them, M for, for clients that I've worked with for a long time is I would say to them that I have a success rate of over 90%. So over 90% of the federal grants that I help clients with actually end up getting awarded. That is actually true. I have a very high hit rate. And that's a powerful statement. And I could leave it there, but I don't want to leave it there as one. It can be misleading, because why do I have a 90% hit rate is actually really important to unpack. But it's also because that doesn't really give them any value. That's really just talking about me. And so what I want to talk about is I want to talk about them and why this matters to them. So I will tell them why. And one of the reasons why is that when I work with clients, I don't tell everybody, oh, uh, you should absolutely apply for that grant. I don't if I don't think it's a fit for them or I don't think that they have a really good chance of getting that award, then I don't tell them to do it. My first step. And I tell them this is, look, the first thing I want to do is I want to do a quick assessment and see whether or not you can really be competitive. And sometimes in the federal grant, there's very specific scoring ways of doing that. And I'll say, look, the first thing we need to do is we need to do your scores and we need to take a look at whether or not you have a shot at all. And if they don't, I actually encourage them not to go any further and therefore not to give me any more money. So, uh, I'm showing them generosity and value in a variety of ways. I'm telling them this is, this is the most important first thing that you need to do. And oh, by the way, if it doesn't look good for you, I'm going to tell you not to give me any more money to do it. Now, I get paid to do that because that's part of, of a first step of an engagement. But if they, if we look at it, and it does make sense for them to go for this, because there's a good reasons to believe, at least at the first glance, that they have a shot at being competitive, then I actually tell them what makes for winning strategies. And I give details. So I give examples of, here's what has made the difference in other federal grants that I've worked on. Now, I give them enough details that I know that if they wanted to, they could take everything that I said they can talk about. All right, here's how we assess our competitives here. How we figure out, you know, how we could actually win this thing. And they could go find a cheaper consultant. Sure, yeah, they could do that. Now, I am not so humble to believe that another consultant who, you know, is less experienced and charges less than me could do what I do. I know they can't, but clients don't necessarily know that. So I. Am I taking a risk by telling them this stuff? Sure. But I also know that I'm living according to my principles because generosity is important to me. I also know that in that time that I'm telling them some of the secret sauce of what it takes to actually win these grants. I'm building trust with them. And I'm also. They're gaining confidence and my credibility is increasing because they're really getting an insight into, okay, well, this person really understands the path to this. This person really understands what it takes to do that. If I held back, then I look like a bunch of other consultants who are like, eh, uh, you don't get any secret sauce until you're willing to give me money to do it. And I wouldn't be differentiating myself so they would have every reason to believe, oh, she's a grant writer. Okay, so she knows how to put words on a page. Well, I'm not just a grant writer. Can I put really good words on a page that can help people win? Yes, I can absolutely do that. But if that's all you need, you don't need me then, because I'm really. My main value is largely about strategy and then how you express that strategy through what goes on a piece of paper, through how you organize it, or through other steps that you might take. I could just say that. But unless I give them an experience of what that's like, why would. Particularly if they don't know me, why would they have any reason to believe what I'm saying? Now? It could be that we have the conversation and for whatever reason they decide not to go with me. And I'm okay with that. Because in that time again, we've built trust. And if this is the first time I'm meeting them, really, we've developed the beginning of a real relationship where they see that I'm generous, they see that I actually care about whether or not they, they actually win this thing or whether or not they should waste their money on going after something they shouldn't. And this shows them what it's like to work with me. And I want people to know because again, if you've ever heard me say anything on this podcast, we probably, it should probably be a drinking game where every time I say every experience a client has with you tells you what it's like to work with you, I say that over and over again because I've seen that. True. And if they see that you're generous, they're more than likely going to want you by their side. Because who doesn't like to be around a generous person? Now, I want to differentiate that from doing volunteer work or pro bono work, which basically means doing things for free. Now, if there's things that you volunteer and you want to take your time and talents and that's part of your volunteer work, I love that. I think that's beautiful. I have mine, I do a whole bunch of things that are volunteer related, I think that's wonderful. But that volunteering does not a business build. So if you're really trying to get income in your pocket. And you're really trying to get business. You're not writing the grant for them and handing them, say, look how generous I am. What you're doing is you're being generous at the front end with your knowledge and your insights so that they can understand, oh, okay, now we understand more about what it's going to actually take to win and if we should actually do this. It also doesn't mean given into scope creep. So generosity is not that the client expands the scope. They don't talk about the budget, they don't talk about paying you more, and you just sort of suck that up and are like, uh, okay, well, I guess I'm gonna allow myself to not get paid for value. That's really different. That puts that into the business realm of you have an agreement to do a scope of work, and it's important that you both honor that. And you have to have the conversations, you have to have to make sure that that scope creep is, is appropriately addressed and you get paid for all your value. You getting paid for all your valuable value is a reasonable assumption to make as a consultant. But that doesn't mean that there aren't times where it's perfectly appropriate for you to share information and insights to that are helpful to people, whether or not they ever hire you to do it. Because again, that shows who you are, and you have to, in your own sort of business and life, sort of figure out where that line is. If it feels good when you do it, then it's probably a good line. If you feel like you're being taken advantage of, then you want to take a look at it and you want to see if you've drawn the right line. But, uh, here's the other thing I mean by generosity, so it doesn't just stop at clients. So I also want you and all other consultants to be generous with each other. Say their names in rooms full of opportunities. I saw that quote on LinkedIn once Where somebody, and I know that they did it to get engagement on LinkedIn, but I still thought it was fun where they said, who says your name? And they were talking about women in particular, but who says your name in a room full of opportunities? And the first person that said my name was another consultant. And it was a consultant when I worked at a firm who worked at a different firm. And she and I work together all the time because we love working together and we adore each other. So the first person that said my name was another consultant. And that's a beautiful Thing, and you want to be able to do that too. Send them business. I do that all the time with other consultants. Partner with them on projects, particularly when you have complementary skills. Share intel with them. Um, so one of the best conversations I had with the, uh, consultant that said my name was, you know, we went out actually to local cidery and we sat down because we serve many of the same clients in the same industry. And we said, all right, what are you hearing? What am I hearing? Because we wanted to share intel that was going to be important to our clients. And, you know, we did it over dinner. It was really helpful and that enabled us good. To go back and to be more generous and do good things for our clients. And so generosity also applies to other consultants or even other professionals. I send business to law firms. I send business to financial folks. Be the person that when someone is asked, who do you think is most generous in your market? Your name comes up, because that's going to help you one, live your values, right? Because you want to be a good, generous person. But it also, I promise you, will expand business opportunities for yourself. And, and that's a tough thing to say because I'm like, don't be manipulative and just do it. Because you're trying to expand business opportunities. But that is one of the benefits of doing it. And I'm just going to name it out loud because it's happened to me over and over again. Okay, let's hit number two. And this is really, truly caring about your clients and potential clients. And I mean, caring as like, you feel inside of yourself that you truly care about what matters to them. And that is at the heart of a thriving consulting business. Because what ultimately matters are the relationships that you're creating with the people in your market, with clients, with potential clients. And authentic relationships at their core are based on caring. Now, that doesn't mean that every person you work with or you might work with, that you're going to become their best friend forever. You feel the need that you have to go hang out with them or something like that. But what it means is, is that you treat their problems and their aspirations with true care and concern, not as if they're your own. Because that's sometimes a boundary issue where suddenly you take it all on and, and you feel it a little too deeply and it helps you. It can get in your way of being objective. It can get in your way of a lot of business things, but that you truly care about it as you would care if it was happening to a friend. And so that can show up in a lot of different ways. So in the discovery process, one of the ways that you show you care is go deeper into the situations they're describing, ask them more questions about it, so you can really get a full understanding of what it is that they're contending with, of what they're trying to achieve and. And what might help them and what might get in their way of doing that. When you're working with them, it's focusing intently on getting them the results they want. You giving them a wonderful experience of what it's like to work with you. Because if it was a friend on the other side, you would want to give that to them as well. Now, if you're meeting with them for the first time, in particular in the discovery process, you also want to show that you care about them because you care about them more than closing a deal, right? So they matter more than the deal itself. And this is where it gets tricky, right? This is where it gets a little Jedi. Because if you're worried about whether or not you're going to close the deal, if you're worried about, oh, my gosh, I got to get income in, I really need this work, then it can be really tough to do, right? Because I'm essentially asking you to suspend your feelings. And if you suspend your feelings, then you'll be able to show up with the intention, with essentially kind of the vibe that you want to show up with, which is, you know, at this moment in time, I'm really caring about you. And what I'm saying instead is, is you're going to have those feelings, have those feelings, that's okay. But as much as you can, when you're engaging with them, um, ignite your empathy. And to me, this is kind of the best way that I figured out how to do this, particularly if I'm feeling a little panicky about getting work in the door. But empathize with them because it should be something that you can do. One, you know, hopefully you're an empathetic person. But if you've been in the work world, like most consultants, you've probably had similar experience or similar enough experience that it can evoke some empathy in you, right? Like, I remember just feeling like, man, I just. I just wish I had somebody else to help me. I wish I had somebody who could help me figure this out, because it's more than what I can do. I remember feeling overwhelmed. I remember feeling uncertain, frustrated, it hopeful, but not quite sure how to get there. Like, all of Those things that we have felt in the work world help us empathize when we're in front of potential clients. Right? Because that's what calls to mind, hey, I get to be that somebody that maybe I didn't have, or maybe you were lucky enough to have a consultant, and you're like, oh, that was great. I've got somebody to help me with this. So that should help you evoke those feelings. And then you can give them hope that there is a solution, that there is a way to achieve their aspirations, and show them that there is actually a path. And by doing that, you're going to show them that you really care about them and you care about helping them achieve the results they want. Heck, you're going to show them you care by acknowledging and being able to voice the results that they actually want to get. And that's a qualitatively different experience than they're going to have with other consultants who they can tell might be quite competent or able to do the work, but don't really care too much about them. They're going to do, like, if you bring them in, they'll do fine, but they don't really care about you. And they can tell that, right? Like, you want to just be a good person, and that's how you show up. You show up in ways where you care about who's in front of you. But, man, they can tell the difference, right? They can tell the difference between those consultants who are just chasing income. And, yeah, they'll do the work, and maybe they'll even do a good job at the work. But, hey, at the end of the day, it's really about invoicing. It's really about billing, and they can tell the difference. And the turnoff that they experience with those types of consultants is significant. That's one thing I've heard over and over again from consultants, as opposed to, um, I'm here, I'm, um, with you. I care about what's going on for you. Let's. Let's get this done. Let's figure this out together. And yes, it's a business, and yes, I do, Bill. And yes, you will be getting an invoice, but that's not the whole focus of what I'm trying to do. All right, number three. So number three, I also talk about a lot. If you've taken my master class on getting clients, you've heard me talk about this, which is clarity and focus. And in truth, there are. This isn't number three because it's the third less Important. Actually, if I rank these in order of importance, this might. This would be a contender for the first one, because there's few things that I can suggest that make things easier in your consulting business. And I'm going to say what I mean by clarity. Sort of the three most important things to be clear about, particularly when you start. But even as you're going along your consulting journey is you got to be clear who your buyer is. You know, it could be more than one, but you got to be clear, like, who are you trying to get to hire you? And. And if you know who you're trying to get to hire you, what do they care about? And all of the things that flow from that. So that's one. You got to know where they are, so you got to know what market they're in. And for some consultants, it's going to be across different industries. Some it's going to be within a particular industry or particular niche. But you have to have made that decision so that you can focus. And then based on those, if I know the who and I know the where, then I can say the what and why me. And the what and why me is when you talk about what your value is to that buyer in that market. And if you can be clear about that, everything after that is going to get easier. And I recognize every time I say this, there's always consultants, and I used to be one of them, but there's always consultants where that just feels wrong, that feels so counterintuitive because shouldn't I just say I can work for anybody? And that opens up a larger pool of who I could potentially work with? And I understand the instinct. I totally understand the instinct because it's what I did when I first started. But keeping it, uh, everything loose, although that may feel emotionally comforting, it may reduce some of the worry and the panic, but the problem is, is that it's not going to draw anyone to you. It's not client. You know, the clients that you might hope to work with aren't going to know that you're talking to them. They're not going to know that you can do things that they care about. And to be honest, they're not going to take the time necessarily to try and figure it out because there's other consultants that are clear, hey, I solve these problems. Hey, I help you achieve these things. And, and by the way, I know that those really matter to you enough that you're willing to hire a consultant for if you aren't clear and you aren't focused you also don't have anything that's going to help you really make decisions and take actions. Because if it's too open or if it's completely open, how would you know what to do next? How would you know what would actually make sense to do? And you'll end up just kind of throwing spaghetti against the wall and hopefully something sticks. Now, it doesn't mean that you won't get any business, but it won't be something that you can really very deliberately pursue certain types of business and be able to fill your pipeline full of work. And because ultimately, what you're trying to do is you're trying to entice people to find out more about you. Trying to entice people that you potentially want to work with to say, hey, there's a reason that I should be talking to this person. And, and you also want to be able to make really wise investments of your resources because you're going to have some confidence that they're going to have some type of a yield without clarity and without focus. You don't really have that. And the thing I will say is everything, everything, everything, everything gets easier once you are clear and focused. And you'll know. I mean, just think about it. You're going to know who it makes sense to talk to. You're going to know, what do they care about? Oh, and by the way, what do they care about? Enough that they're willing to spend money on a consultant and they're willing to spend money on a consultant like me. You're going to know where to go find them. Where the heck are they that I can get into these conversations I need to be in? Where can I get noticed by them? You're going to know what's valuable enough to them that when you have a conversation, you're going to know those things that are actually going to be meaningful for you to talk about. And I was thinking about this, and I was thinking about describing this, and I had some business examples, but truthfully, I have a different example that's actually probably more helpful. And so one thing you don't know about me is that I have written a number of match.com profiles for other people that resulted in marriages. So if I were to go into another business, that probably would have been it. But years and years ago, a good friend of mine who was this and still is this amazing, dynamic person who go, I'm not going to say her name, but she'll know who I'm talking about. And she does those, like, adventure races which, which you like see on TV where you know, it's like three days and they climb a mountain and then they kayak and then they bike. I mean, more than a triathlon, like, a triathlon is kind of candy ass compared to what, what she did. She does, she does a lot of these. And you know, she got, uh, what her idea of fun on a weekend is going and climbing a mountain. So she's this extreme and wicked smart, extremely interesting person. And she wrote a match.com profile that it sort of looked like every other profile. It was, it was so generic and, you know, she just sort of wrote it by looking at other profiles and thinking, okay, this is what I should say. So myself and another person, we, you know, and she wasn't getting anything good coming from it at all because no one knew who she really was and that they were and that actually they should pay attention to her. So myself and the person sat down and I said, look, it makes you sound boring and you're not boring. I read this and if somebody didn't tell me it was you, I wouldn't know it was you. And so we rewrote it and we included pictures of her like carrying a bicycle, covered with mud, her with her dog. I mean, things that really, truly spoke to who she actually is as a person and kind of what she brings to the table in a relationship. And she was really nervous and we're like just. I don't even think she hit send. I think we hit send, we. Or we hit post. And this was the early days of match.com. so I have no idea how it works now, but she posted it and the first person who responded to her loved it because of what she said. It's because there was a photo of her covered in mud. It's because it really captured the essence of who she actually was. And it immediately got a hit. And not for nothing, what's. It's been over 20 years. So she's married to. She's married to the woman who responded to her. It was the first response she got. And. And they've been married ever since. Now, lots of us who have been on match.com know that it doesn't always go like that, that often. There's a lot of. There's a plague of frogs that show up first. But this is a great example of if you're really clear and focused about who it is that you're trying to serve, what it is that you know where they are and what it is that you can do for them and what's special about you. You're going to have a much easier time getting into the conversations and having the right conversations with the right folks who, who are actually going to want to hire you. And the way to sort of judge if you're clear and focused enough is to think after you've, you've sort of written out, and I always suggest writing it out, that clarity and that focus of, you know, who my buyer is, where are they and what's my value relative to them. If you can answer the question, okay, so now what should I do next? And that's much easier to answer than it was when you were trying to be everything to everyone. That's how, you know, you kind of hit the sweet spot. And so, for example, if you know that your buyer is a CEO of not a non profit organization in the educational industry in the United States and that you're looking at companies that are your organizations that have a budget of, you know, 20 to 60 million dollars, then you know what to do next, or you know, at least what to ask next. So if that were who I was going after, I would say, okay, what's happening in that industry that I think they would actually care about or they have to contend with or they have to respond to in some way? Where are they? Are these folks actually showing up and engaging on LinkedIn? If not, don't spend your time doing that. Are there instead conferences they're going to, are there other forums that they're on? You start to be able to dig, to be able to have enough information to guide the actions that you're going to take. Now, if your buyer was instead an HR director, you know, didn't matter what industry, but works for companies that have about 250 to 1,000 employees, you would have very, very different answers. And so the more clear you are then, or the clearer you are, the easier it's going to be to say, okay, how then can I take that clarity and focus and turn that into decisions and then turn that into actions? Hence the everything gets easier part after that. All right, so let me hit the fourth one, M, which is focus on solutions, right? So consulting businesses, let's just be honest, stuff happens and it's not always stuff that you like or you want, right? You, you're gonna experience when things go wrong. You're gonna experience when things don't work out the way you wanted to. You know, when you're just not getting traction with things, you might do something where, well, that seemed like a good idea, but, you know, didn't generate any Revenue or, you know, I didn't know what to do next after I made that decision or something was difficult to pursue or I pursued it and I got it and it's sucked and it wasn't enjoyable and I never want to do that again. Whatever the version is, there's going to be things that, that are, that aren't going to go right, right? And you try something, you give it a real shot. Doesn't matter, it just doesn't work. Now this is where it comes down to focusing on solutions. Because things not going right all the time is not an indictment of your ability to succeed as a consultant. Right? Things not going right like it's, it's a business that's normal, that's expected. When you used to be in employment, did everything go right all the time? No, it just had different consequences, it had different stakes. But no, things aren't always going to go well. So the key is to nurture a particular type of superpower, right? So you want to have the superpower of a problem solver, a solution generator, right? An action taker. This is the superpower. Really great consultants who have really robust, wonderful, fulfilling businesses. So instead of falling into mind step traps, right, that tell you, oh, um, I'm just not cut out for this, or oh, I should quit, which, you know, it's my last episode, so I'm just gonna be blunt. Screw that, right? Forget that. That's not the answer when things go wrong. Instead, I sort of have a three, you could even say four step thing that I do that I find really helpful. So. And it doesn't have to take like a whole lot of time. It doesn't have to take hang ringing. But if something's not going right, whatever it is, for whatever reason, stop first and say what's causing and contributing this, right? So define your causes and contributors. It's kind of stuff that we do with clients as consultants, right? So why did this happen? So for example, if you said a propos sent a proposal to a client who asked for it and then heard crickets, right? You never heard back from them. And that's the problem is you're like, you know, this has happened in this particular instance, or maybe it's happened a few more times, then you want to ask yourself, well, how was my follow up? Did I do any follow up? Did I do enough that I felt like I was doing it for real? Did I do it even a little bit more than I was comfortable with? Because that's, that's usually a first place. We have to Push ourselves a bit. Did I assume that they were rejecting me when? I truly don't know if that was happening. And that could just be bs. That's a, that's a big one with consultants. You don't hear back and you're like, oh my God, they hate me. Oh my God, they're rejecting me. And the truth is, you don't know that. So this is where you have to sort of, you know, balance. When you're defining causes or things that contributed to it, you got to be radically honest with yourself, right? You gotta, you gotta say, what part is me, what part is the situation, what part is the potential client? Do it with kindness, which I'm going to hit upon later because you don't want to just, you know, use it as, you know, you pick up a stick and start to hit yourself with. But you really got to, to get to what's going on. Why did this actually happen? And then the second thing is the work, the problem, right? So what was this, the Apollo 13 movie? I loved that quote. Work the problem. So what could solve this and what makes the most sense to try? And then you try it, you implement it. So, for example, if you've got holes in your pipeline and you looked at, you know, sort of causes and contributors to it, and you notice that in your pipeline you don't have a lot of past clients that are working with you more than once, then one of the things you might decide to do is, I'm going to re engage past clients. Perhaps they need more help, perhaps they can refer me to other people. So you come up with a plan of how you're going to re engage them, and then you do it, and then you move on to the next part, which is, okay, you did it, but now you got to make sure that it's getting you what you want. So you pay attention to the outcomes. Is it actually yielding the outcome you want? Now, by the way, the last example I gave, every time you reach out to someone, you're not gonna. It's not gonna bear fruit. They're not necessarily gonna get back to you the first time. But it, if you really do it and you do it well, you're gonna pay attention to the outcomes and then adjust as needed. So what happened when you implemented your solution? Did it produce the outcome you want? And if not, how do I want to adjust it for the purpose of getting a better outcome? So, for example, and I, I'd done this, I will admit. So if you decide to go all in on marketing, you're Not a marketing expert. So you, you uh, sort of make the, the mistake that everybody makes, ah, a lot of people make at the beginning, which is you're on every single channel. Imagine, right? So you're doing social media marketing and you're on LinkedIn and Instagram and Facebook and maybe you're on TikTok or whatever else it is and you're doing all of that. You're not seeing a ton of results, but it's taking up a ton of your time to the point where it's sucking up time that you could be using for other revenue generating activities. So you sort of reviewed it and you said, you know what, I gave it a shot and I realized I had to start doing marketing. And so I started to do marketing, but I've done too m much. So now I'm going to stop and say, all right, where, where do I think it makes sense for me to be? Now that could be like, are you actually getting engagement? I don't mean likes or any of that vanity stuff, but are you actually getting into meaningful conversations with people through certain social media? If the answer is yes, well then it makes sense to pay attention to that. You also might say, well, you know, I never really stopped and thought about where's my buyer, let me do a quick glance on that and see where they're engaging. And then everything else, all the other channels that I'm using to do marketing, I'm going to stop doing and that's going to be my adjustment and then I'm going to pay attention again and then see if I need to make an adjustment after that. But you have to be willing and able to engage in this type of solution oriented action taking because that's what actually makes all the difference in a consulting business. Now you'll notice what I did not say is, I didn't say, yeah, you do, do you gotta figure out how everything's gonna be perfect. I, I did not say that and I didn't say that intentionally. It's not about getting everything perfect. Perfect, because perfect isn't the point. And perfectionism, as I've said before, it is a mindset trap. It is hell bent on keeping you stuck, right? Its primary purpose is to keep you stuck. So forget that. I'll say it again, screw that. And what you want to do is you want to look at good enough solutions that have been thought through because you thought about, hey, what's really going on here? What's making this happen and what solutions might be able to fix that. And you've Done good enough solutions and they're well enough executed and then you ingest when you need to make things better. And that is far better than trying to perfect solutions and perfectly execute them so you don't need any adjustments. Because that is a fantasy and not the good kind. It's dumb and it doesn't give you anything. So I wouldn't spend any time trying to be perfect, trying to get it just right. The thing is, is engage, stay engaged in your business as a business and implement well reasoned solutions the best that you can and make adjustments when you need to. And any good consulting business knows that that's a normal and expected thing to do as you go along. All right, let's hit number five. So number five number means a whole lot to me and I was not good at this when I first started. And so I want you to learn from my mistakes and that is be kind to yourself, right? Like starting and building a consulting business, it's like it ain't always easy. Like I don't care what you hear in the world about, oh, take these, you know, six steps. And if you take these six steps, everything will be, you know, beautiful and perfect. And I've never seen that to be true. You can be successful, you can make this work. That's a hundred percent true. But there's going to be rough times. There just is. And there's going to be times when you doubt yourself and there's going to be those tough conversations you'd rather not have, but you can't avoid them. Like when things go off the rails with a client or when the scope creep happens or whatever it is, those types of things happen. You may not be comfortable all the time doing all of those things. And that's okay, right? You don't have to feel 100% comfortable all the time or 100% confident all the time. But none of that gets better if you berate yourself or you build a case against yourself and building a case against yourself that you know you're not right for this and you're not cut out for this when the reality of the matter is, is it's is. It's not a question of if, it's a question of how, how do you make it work, not if you can make it work. And so being kind to yourself when those things happen, which again they will, can lighten things up enough so that you can see clearly and you can go back to then figuring out the solution part of it. And it makes the, it, it just makes the whole journey a lot More enjoyable. And I know that when I started, um, man, oh, whoa. I had so many, so many doubts about my ability to do this, um, all of which I constantly voiced to my husband. And I just didn't have the faith that I could make it work. And so I made it a, uh, narrative about, you know, me and what I couldn't do. And I didn't bring enough self kindness into it. When I did wisely, often being urged to bring some self kindness into the mix. Everything got easier. Now, what I don't mean is, I don't mean forced cheerfulness. Ew. Like that's that toxic positivity that I hate and it's harmful as hell. I mean, I'd mean true gentleness and kindness with yourself so that you're not being hard on yourself, but you're not pretending to be. La, la, la. Everything's perfect. Because that just actually is, uh, I think a type of harm to yourself. So what, uh, what that can look like is when something good happens, stop and celebrate. Like, just don't go over it and go, okay, okay, so what's the next thing? What's the next problem I have to solve? Like, really, if you achieve something, I don't care how small it is, stop and celebrate it. Remind yourself of how far you've come. I'm thinking of somebody recently who's, you know, in my membership and she's getting a contract, the biggest contract she's ever had. And it's going to be something for all of next year. And I remember, I don't even think it was six months ago. I think it was maybe three or four months ago. That number, that amount of that contract was, was unthinkable to her. When she defined what a big contract was, it was thousands of dollars lower than that because she couldn't imagine that, that, that would be a high number. So when she shared it, we all stopped and we celebrated it. And we celebrated not just, oh, she's getting a contract to do what she loves at an amount that is more, you know, deserving of her talent. But we also celebrated how far she came. And this is something that you can yourself and you can invite the good people who care about you in your life to do the same also. The other thing is, is if things go wrong, and again, things will go wrong, don't make the situation about you or, you know, adding things that are about you that aren't really about you or making the situation bigger than it actually is. I call that piling on where you just sort of Pile on narratives and negativity and all kinds of things until it feels so much bigger than it actually is. So if you can embrace that, building a consulting business is a journey, and that every step of that journey, you're going to learn something, right? If you're open to it, you're going to learn something. Every step, no matter how imperfect that step is, is going to teach you. And if you have kindness to yourself, it's going to allow you to absorb those lessons. And also you can enjoy it much more, right? Like, every step is going to feel better and better, particularly as you start to see the successes that you're going to have as a consultant. So if you got into consulting, right, in part because you really wanted to enjoy your life more, right, then it. Then it all starts with being kind to yourself. And in fact, and if you think about it this way, be the best boss you've ever had. And some of the best bosses I've ever had are those that are, you know, understanding and kind. That wasn't the only attributes they had, but that, that was something that you could feel from them, that ultimately everything was about wanting things to go well for you and being kind about it. And that's something that, that you can learn more and more and more to do for yourself. And it makes, again, everything else easier. So those are the five things. And even as I finish this, I can think of, well, what about this? What about this? So there's a whole lot of other things I have shared and I will share more of, but I want to say thank you so much to everybody who listened to this podcast, listened to it weekly. For those of you that did or who are going back, you know, through the catalog to listen to them, I truly hope that it was helpful and even validating that you're on the right track. Some of the best feedback I've gotten from this podcast is, okay, I'm actually doing that. So now I, uh, now I feel validated that I'm on the right track. And if there's, you know, things that you need to learn, you can go back and listen to other podcasts that I've done. There's a whole lot of them. If you haven't heard all of them, and go back and listen to my guests and listen to things that I share, and there's a lot more help to be in there. And I also just want to thank everybody who was a guest on my podcast. I feel blessed. Feels like an understatement that I had all of these really smart people on my podcast sharing their insights, sharing their wisdom and I got to be there like a sponge soaking it all in and engaging with them and listening to things, things that they were sharing to be able to help people on the other side. The folks that are listening like you and I feel this is the last thing I say. I feel really grateful if in any way I've been part of your journey and again not disappearing. So I'm really looking forward to sharing more. It's just going to be in other ways that it's just going to be in other places. But I still want to help you as much as I can because I want you to ultimately have have the consulting business of your dreams and I want you to have the life that you want. So thank you so much.
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