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Being a Digital Leader

Hosted by AND Digital

Join us as we dive deep into the world of digital transformation with real-life stories of breakthroughs and challenges from the front lines.

19 episodes · publishes monthly · latest 2025-11-14 · ~50 min/episode

Rank

#1342

Substance

71.8

/ 100

Breakdown

Scored 2026-07
Updated monthly

Leadership rank

#126 of 1042

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Across the index

#1342 of 6219

Substance

Top 22%

outscores 78% of the index

Why it scores where it does

Being a Digital Leader ranks #1342 on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 71.8 out of 100, scored across 5 recent episodes. It scores highest on guest caliber and specificity & evidence. The panel features practitioners with genuine scale experience: Tim Mason (Tesco Clubcard pioneer, CEO of Eagle Eye), Cath Morse (Head of Customer Digital Experience at Royal London), and Rich Bovey (Chief of Data at AND Digital). Mason's 30-year track record and specific Clubcard outcomes provide credibility. Morse offers current institutional perspective from a major mutual. Bovey represents data strategy implementation. All three have done the work, though none is a household name and the conversation occasionally feels like peer discussion rather than deep expert revelation.

The five-dimension breakdown

Averaged across 5 recently scored episodes, with cited evidence.

Insight Density

13.8 / 20

The episode covers customer experience fundamentals competently but relies heavily on well-established principles (culture matters, know your customers, data enables personalization). While there are useful anecdotes (Ruth's Chris napkins, Jet2 check-in procedures, Tesco Clubcard learnings), the core insights about customer-first strategy, the primacy of culture, and avoiding poor data decisions are fairly standard in CX discourse. The Salesforce-Informatica acquisition ($8B for data vs AI investment) is a concrete data point, but much of the discussion retreads familiar territory without substantive novelty.

“66% of our respondents said that real-time engagement is impossible without centralized data”

“the most important thing and the most difficult thing is actually having a genuinely customer-first strategy. Although people talk a good game, they don't necessarily deliver it”

Originality

12.4 / 20

The episode primarily synthesizes established CX wisdom rather than presenting contrarian or first-principles thinking. The framework of culture→data→technology is standard; the emphasis on walking in customers' shoes and experience-based design are not novel. Tim Mason's Tesco Clubcard retrospective is valuable history but not new analysis. Rich's warning about AI learning from AI (the baby peacock Google Images example) is interesting but tangential. The discussion lacks provocative reframing or genuinely unexpected angles on loyalty, AI, or customer understanding.

“if you care that much about my trousers, I can't imagine what you're doing with my steak”

“AI has just sort of made this a bit more fashionable again”

Guest Caliber

17.8 / 20

The panel features practitioners with genuine scale experience: Tim Mason (Tesco Clubcard pioneer, CEO of Eagle Eye), Cath Morse (Head of Customer Digital Experience at Royal London), and Rich Bovey (Chief of Data at AND Digital). Mason's 30-year track record and specific Clubcard outcomes provide credibility. Morse offers current institutional perspective from a major mutual. Bovey represents data strategy implementation. All three have done the work, though none is a household name and the conversation occasionally feels like peer discussion rather than deep expert revelation.

“I was the guy that launched the Tesco Clubcard, so I've been in this space for quite a long time”

“head of customer digital experience at Royal London”

Specificity & Evidence

14.6 / 20

The episode includes concrete examples (Ruth's Chris black napkins, Jet2 children's entertainment, Berghaus/REI outdoor brand culture, Wagamama's million active users) and specific metrics (56% of respondents making decisions on flawed data, 66% say real-time engagement requires centralized data, $8B Salesforce-Informatica acquisition, Tesco Clubcard cost ~£100M or 20% of profits). However, many claims lack specifics: Tim's Eagle Eye machine learning improvements are mentioned but not quantified; Royal London's customer panel testing is described broadly without results; the Marks & Spencer data scandal is referenced but not detailed. Most quantitative data comes from AND Digital's own survey, which adds attribution but limits external validation.

“just over half of them said that poor CX has already cost them millions in lost revenue”

“Salesforce announced that it was buying Informatica...for $8 billion, alex, $8 billion”

Conversational Craft

13.2 / 20

The host (Alex Common) asks competent opening questions and creates space for panelists to develop ideas, but rarely challenges or pushes back substantively. Follow-ups are mostly confirmatory ('I really like your comment...') rather than probing. When Rich raises the AI-learning-from-AI risk, there's no deep drilling. The discussion of 56% making decisions on flawed data gets deflected rather than interrogated ('is that bold innovation or risky business?'). Panelists are courteous but rarely disagree; the conversation feels consensus-driven. Some good moments of natural flow (Tim's Ruth's Chris story drawing Kat's Jet2 example) but limited sharp questioning or productive tension.

“I think you pretty. You're answering all the questions. You go very, very conclusively”

“I want to ask you a follow-up question...especially with you, know, because you make a really good point right”

Standout episodes

  • The cost of getting customer experience wrong

    2025-06-10

    79
  • The Telegraph's digital evolution

    2025-05-29

    79
  • Creating Winning Teams: Lessons from sports and airlines

    2025-03-03

    76

Rank over time

First period on the Index - history builds from here.

Episodes

10 scored on substance · 19 tracked in total.

  • Reinvention, resilience & the realities of digital leadership

    2025-11-14 · 58 min

    58 / 100
  • The cost of getting customer experience wrong

    2025-06-10 · 59 min

    79 / 100
  • The Telegraph's digital evolution

    2025-05-29 · 59 min

    79 / 100
  • How AI and data are revolutionising customer loyalty programs

    2025-04-02 · 58 min

    67 / 100
  • Creating Winning Teams: Lessons from sports and airlines

    2025-03-03 · 1h 6m

    76 / 100
  • From Mountains to Modern Tech: Andy Lole from Travel Chapter

    2025-01-22 · 1h 7m

    79 / 100
  • Adapt. Lead. Succeed: Lynn Campbell at Sky on Driving Change in Tech

    2024-12-09 · 27 min

    72 / 100
  • Building an inclusive and resilient future in tech: My leadership journey: Peter Brown, Lloyds Banking Group

    2024-09-17 · 48 min

    75 / 100
  • Transforming Utilities with Kes Juskowiak - Transformation Director at Scottish Water

    2024-08-06 · 47 min

    76 / 100
  • Next-Gen Customer Journeys with Alex Allen, Digital Product Leader at Aviva

    2024-07-08 · 45 min

    67 / 100

Frequently asked

What is Being a Digital Leader's substance score?
Being a Digital Leader scores 71.8 out of 100 for substance and ranks #1342 on The B2B Podcast Index. That puts it ahead of 78% of the B2B podcasts we rank and #126 of 1042 in Leadership. The score reflects insight density, originality, guest caliber, specificity and conversational craft across recent episodes - not downloads.
Is Being a Digital Leader worth listening to?
Yes - Being a Digital Leader outscores 78% of the B2B leadership podcasts and shows we rank on substance, so a leadership operator is likely to come away with something useful.
Who hosts Being a Digital Leader?
Being a Digital Leader is hosted by AND Digital.
How often does Being a Digital Leader publish?
Being a Digital Leader publishes monthly, has 19 episodes, released its most recent episode on 2025-11-14.
Which Being a Digital Leader episode should I start with?
Our highest-scoring recent episode is "The cost of getting customer experience wrong" (79/100) - a good place to start.

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Frequently discusses

Companies, products and tools that come up most across this show's episodes.

Amazon · 3AND Digital · 2British Airways · 2CurrysDisneyThe GuardianMerlin EntertainmentNBC UniversalIBMYouTubeRoyal LondonEagle EyeTescoTesco ClubcardMarks and SpencerREIPatagoniaBerghaus

Guests who've appeared

Rebecca HosgoodDi SpindleyCath MorseTim MasonRich BoveyToby WrightLiz Gaskin-PayneDan JowettAndy LoleLynn CampbellPeter BrownKes JuskowiakAlex Allen

Topics this show covers

The themes that come up most across this show's episodes.

Digital transformation · 2Career reinventionUser testingPersonal branding and thought leadershipTechnology strategy and enterprise architectureRetail and omnichannel deliveryE-commerce and online businessProject and program deliveryAgile centre of excellenceGender diversity in technologyAnt Digital Know Me or Lose Me reportTesco ClubcardRoyal London pension and insuranceEagle Eye loyalty platformMarks & Spencer data governance failuresStarbucks digital experience pullbackPatagonia brand loyaltyREI outdoor retail co-op

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