
Triple Sat · 2026-07-28 · 30 min
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This episode is a nostalgic conversation among hosts Kathy, Jessica, and Jeff about vacation experiences and summer traditions. They reminisce about East Coast beach destinations like Point Pleasant, Seaside Heights, Ocean City Maryland, and Wildwood New Jersey - discussing iconic boardwalk staples that have remained largely unchanged, including novelty t-shirts, airbrush tattoo vendors, hermit crab shops, and photo booths. The conversation branches into different vacation styles: Jessica shares camping experiences and her preference for glamping with amenities, Kathy describes an RV camping trip and a memorable stay at an alligator-infested campground in South Carolina, and Jeff recalls childhood camping trips where kids felt independent at camp stores. They also discuss family road trips to Disney World and South of the Border, early ski vacations in the Poconos, and their recent skydiving adventure with tandem instructors. Throughout, they explore how vacation traditions persist while questioning whether they take their current beachfront location for granted.
Ocean City Maryland features numerous high-rise hotels and a densely developed boardwalk that has remained virtually unchanged, while Wildwood has a more retro, kitschy aesthetic with lower-rise motels and a Wes Anderson-like feel that appeals to those seeking vintage charm.
The area was significantly rebuilt and modernized, creating a newer appearance while maintaining most of the traditional staples, though the overall character changed considerably compared to pre-Sandy conditions.
Most modern campgrounds have security gates or codes and feel relatively safe, allowing children to explore nearby stores independently in a controlled environment, though this depends on the specific facility.
Traditional camping involves pitching tents and using outhouses; glamping offers safari tents on platforms with electricity and fans but no air conditioning; cabins provide the most amenities with actual structures and facilities.
These items are typically purchased as vacation mementos and worn briefly during the trip, then relegated to home use as cleaning or painting shirts rather than everyday wear back in one's hometown.
Our reviewer’s read on each dimension, with quotes from the episode.
This episode is almost entirely personal anecdotes and nostalgia about beach vacations, boardwalks, and camping experiences with zero actionable insights for B2B operators. There are no business lessons, frameworks, data points, or professional takeaways - just rambling memories about T-shirts, hermit crabs, skydiving, and bumper cars.
So we thought we'd maybe stroll down memory lane a little bit, talk about some of our vacations or even just summer happenings and things that we remember.
I mean, boardwalk is a boardwalk, right?
The episode relies entirely on tired, well-worn observations about beach culture that have circulated for decades: boardwalks never change, hermit crabs are sold on boardwalks, T-shirt sayings are timeless, families visit Disney World. There is zero original thinking, contrarian perspective, or first-principles analysis - just standard vacation nostalgia.
Some of the T shirts are still exactly the same, actually.
Like, you buy something on the boardwalk and you wear it while you're here, like, the next day or something, and then you go home and you probably never wear it again.
There are no external guests on this episode. It is three hosts (Kathy, Jessica, and Jeff) having a casual conversation about their personal vacation memories. None of them are identified as practitioners or operators with relevant expertise to share.
I'm Kathy.
I'm Jessica.
While the speakers mention specific place names (Jersey Shore, Point Pleasant, Seaside Heights, Ocean City, Wildwood, Disney World, Colorado, Dominican Republic, Knoebel's), they provide almost no concrete data, metrics, timelines, or quantifiable evidence. The few details offered are personal anecdotes without broader applicability: a UPS driver lost hermit crabs, someone's son felt 'like a big boy,' skydiving lasted '30 seconds of free fall.'
I grew up on the Jersey Shore, and I was 15 minutes from, uh, Point Pleasant, Seaside Heights.
About 30 seconds of free fall.
The hosts engage in friendly back-and-forth banter and do follow up on each other's stories with questions (e.g., 'Did you take it for granted like living at the beach?', 'What do you enjoy about it?'). However, there is no intellectual rigor, no pushback on claims, no attempt to extract deeper meaning, and no productive disagreement. The conversation is purely transactional reminiscing with softball follow-ups.
Did you take it for granted like living at the beach?
Wasn't super exciting for you?
Computed from the transcript - who did the talking, and the words that came up most.
In this episode, we are swapping our vacation memories, from unforgettable trips to the ones that went off the rails. We also dive into what it's really like living in a beach town during peak tourist season, where traffic triples, patience gets tested, and everyone forgets how a crosswalk works. We also take a nostalgic stroll through those legendary boardwalk T- shirt shops that have somehow been selling the same silly shirts since 1985. Whether you are on vacation or just trying to survive everyone else's, this episode is your perfect beach listen.
Transcribed and scored by The B2B Podcast Index.
Speaker A: Hello. Welcome to Tripleset. If this is your first time checking us out, we appreciate you. If you've been here before. Thanks so much. I'm Kathy.
Speaker B: I'm Jessica.
Speaker C: And I'm Jeff.
Speaker B: So today we thought we would talk about vacation. We're in the middle of the summer season. We're in a vacation resort town.
Speaker A: Vacation central.
Speaker B: Sure is.
Speaker C: Oh, I see what you did there. Sure is.
Speaker B: So we thought we'd maybe stroll down memory lane a little bit, talk about some of our vacations or even just summer happenings and things that we remember. I mean, Fourth of July fireworks and. And maybe some of that stuff that we did then is still happening now, because I see it in the restaurants.
Speaker A: For sure.
Speaker C: Yes. Some of the traditions still hold a lot.
Speaker B: You know, boardwalk is a boardwalk, right?
Speaker A: Yeah. Hasn't changed since I can remember down in the East Coast.
Speaker B: West coast doesn't have boardwalk. No, no.
Speaker C: Yeah. I've only been on the west coast once.
Speaker B: I think one of the things that always pops out to me is, well, I grew up on the Jersey Shore, and I was 15 minutes from, uh, Point Pleasant, Seaside Heights. So we went to the boardwalk a lot.
Speaker C: Wow. You were that close to the. Oh, wow, that's nice.
Speaker B: Yeah. And, well, we had some rules. We weren't allowed to go to Seaside Heights at the time. Well, I mean, my dad thought it was a, uh, little bit sketch, so he was, like, a little dangerous. And, of course, young teenage girls, but whatever.
Speaker C: Is it like the party beach?
Speaker B: It is, it is. But honestly, I thought it was fine.
Speaker A: It was probably the most fun beach trip.
Speaker B: You know, that's where we would sneak to. But we're allowed to go to Point Pleasant. But still, I mean, the board works. I think Seaside was a lot like Wildwood and a lot like maybe Ocean City right now, like, in terms of lots of games, lots of cars, lots of happenings.
Speaker C: Right, right, right.
Speaker B: But one thing I always remember is the silly T shirts. Yeah, they're still out there.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker C: They never go away.
Speaker B: Like the sayings. Some of the sayings are still the same.
Speaker A: They 100% are. I think some of the T shirts are still exactly the same, actually.
Speaker C: That's true.
Speaker B: The top of them have that little bit of, you know, the sun. Um, the sun.
Speaker A: Um. Yeah. The faint.
Speaker B: But I know the cut ones, like the little fringe ones, you know, and so if they're out there still, it's. People are buying, like, do you wear
Speaker A: it again after you wear it? I feel like you buy something on the boardwalk and you wear it while you're here, like, the next day or something, and then you go home and you probably never wear it again.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker A: Especially the weird, like, the fringy looking things and the, uh, like, are you
Speaker B: wearing that in your hometown?
Speaker A: Like, wearing that.
Speaker B: It's a Walmart problem.
Speaker C: Your cleaning shirt. Like, cleaning day. Like, when you have to clean the house. That's your cleaning. Or your paint. Paint shirt.
Speaker A: Yeah. Right. Like, this is such a great idea. And then what do you do with it?
Speaker C: Do they still have the airbrush? Remember the airbrush? T shirts. And you could get, like, a license plate or, like, whatever.
Speaker A: Something. You could probably get one of those mechanically done by a machine now, like, there's probably not an artist doing it, but you can probably buy one that's downtown from some kind of vending machine.
Speaker C: Those airbrush ones are great. When we were, like, in our 20s and a group of us used to go to Ocean City every year, and I remember walking down the boardwalk and my friend Katie saying, yeah, okay, well, anybody could do that. And so the guy let her paint a shirt. And I hope. I'm gonna. Katie, I don't know if you listen. And I'm gonna reach out to her and see if she still has it. Cause I think she does. But she, like, drew all of us, like, as stick figures. It was hilarious. Uh, but he was so fun. He was like, all right, it's so easy. Go ahead.
Speaker B: Well, we just had one of our other episodes. We talked about local artists and how, you know.
Speaker C: Yeah, see, there's somebody who's like, it's not that easy.
Speaker A: Not as easy as it looks.
Speaker C: Yeah. But, yeah, I mean, I remember buying, like, a license plate, like, with somebody's name as a gift. Like, that airbrush spot on the boardwalk was popular.
Speaker B: I remember always wanting to, like, get my name in the heart with, you know, like, you know, have a significant other or not. You have to.
Speaker A: I literally just rolled my eyes out loud.
Speaker C: So I guess you have one of those.
Speaker B: So I have one. Because honestly, did you ever stop at
Speaker C: one of those shops and get the shirt that they, like, scream?
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker C: Uh, it was crooked M. I bought, like, a Wildwood lifeguard or whatever. And I remembered the cross was, like, off tilt.
Speaker A: I was like, quality stuff on the
Speaker C: wood, like some 17 year old.
Speaker A: I feel like one of the relatively newer things is everybody gets henna tattoos at the beach. Yeah. I don't remember seeing that. When I was a kid, we had
Speaker B: braids, I think, right? People would braid her. Yeah, I can do that.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker B: No, Hannah, I think it's new.
Speaker C: New because I feel like when I got my first tattoo and I remember my grandma seeing it, and I remember saying, hen it's a temporary. We just rolled with that.
Speaker B: Um, I know we didn't do this. I know this is more like a kid thing in a carnival, but did they do like face painting or anything? We never did that. Right on that.
Speaker C: I think so.
Speaker A: That's more like carnival, amusement park type stuff. I mean, who knows? The henna shops might paint your face.
Speaker C: I'll tell you what's timeless.
Speaker A: Good old hermit crabs are still poor things.
Speaker C: Crabs.
Speaker B: Uh, little tiny. I mean, tiny little cage. Yeah.
Speaker A: Yes, teeny tiny.
Speaker B: Well, of course. Photo booths are still out there. Yeah, photo booths are timeless too. I mean, the, uh.
Speaker C: What about the old timey.
Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
Speaker B: And you put on those clothes.
Speaker C: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A: Never did that.
Speaker B: Oh, I did that.
Speaker A: I'm like, I might be a little bit of a germaphobe. I never did that.
Speaker C: Yeah, actually, I didn't really ever think about that until now. Like, that is pretty gross. So those sweaty beach people.
Speaker A: Something about the hermit crabs. So I was UPS driver for years, and they shipped them in a box with holes in it. So your hermit crabs went to your local, like, boardwalk retail store in a UPS trip, like from who knows where. So one day go into the back of my truck and there are hermit crabs everywhere. They had a nice little hole in the box. And well, I. I collected up as many as I could find. I don't know if I found them all or if some went in someone else's package to their house.
Speaker C: That's funny. Hermit crabs everywhere.
Speaker B: Everywhere.
Speaker C: Wow.
Speaker A: They were like, we're out.
Speaker C: We're getting out somewhere. There's like a Disney Pixar film.
Speaker A: Like, I could see my truck branding down the road, door open, crabs filling out.
Speaker B: That's fun.
Speaker C: Yes.
Speaker B: Well, they crawled into a different box and ended up in like a boutique or something.
Speaker A: Absolutely. I'm sure I delivered hermit crab to someone that day that wasn't looking for one. Probably scared of a Jesus animal.
Speaker C: That's hilarious. I hope it's been funny. Yeah, one of those, like the. The beach has those typical. The same. I mean that all of that is the same. I, uh, mean, even like you think about now. I don't know about for you, like with Wildwood. Because when I was in high school, I went to Wildwood, and then as an adult I went like a couple years ago and I really had no recollection. But do you feel like, like is like Ocean City, Maryland. I don't feel like has changed at all. Like that boardwalk, I could probably tell you what street, what store is on still. Wildwood's changed a little though, hasn't it?
Speaker B: I think I don't go to Wildwood as much. I used to go in high school all the time because they had a lot of competitions down there for color garden. I did that.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker B: But I don't go so much now. But I can tell you the Jersey shore after, um, Sandy came through, Ah, it's changed a lot. I mean there's. Yeah, a lot of the staples are there, but a lot of stuff has been rebuilt and it's, it's nicer. It's like it looks newer, you know, down.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker B: But Wild would I. I mean, I want to say it's probably going to be really close to what it was.
Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. But I feel like at Ocean City doesn't have some newer stuff, but basically that boardwalk is legitimately the same.
Speaker A: When the next person takes over a space, they put the same thing in there. Some T shirt shop or pizza joint or.
Speaker B: Wildwood was always so fun. So Ocean City is, uh, a lot of high rises. Lot of high rise hotels and stuff.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker B: Wildwood was not. It's, um, small, like. Yeah, like mo, I guess Motel versus hotel. Kind of feel like one thing I
Speaker C: really liked about revisiting Wildwood a couple years ago. It has a very cool retro look to it. So. And it. You're right, like, it's not as high. Like it's got more of like a, uh, like a Wes Anderson feel. Like it's got like that. It's very kitschy. I like it. I feel like I would like to go back again and spend some more time there because I feel like doing. Is there.
Speaker B: We're going to Wild and we'll tell
Speaker C: y' all about it with a details
Speaker A: and go sign up Sydney.
Speaker C: But yeah, it's got a kind of like a cool retro vibe.
Speaker B: Yeah.
Speaker C: From what I remember. But again, that was high school.
Speaker B: I mean, what other virtual that we did? I mean we live at the boardwalk, so that's pretty easy.
Speaker C: Did you take it for granted like living at the beach?
Speaker B: Absolutely.
Speaker C: Wasn't super exciting for you?
Speaker B: It wasn't. Well, I mean it kind of was. It was exciting when I would go to Seaside, but it was kind of exciting because it wasn't really much else to do.
Speaker C: Um, yet.
Speaker B: But I did take it for granted for sure. I mean, I think I take for granted being here.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker B: I think we do more when people come to Visit.
Speaker C: I do feel the same way. I love when people are in town because I like a tourist. I'm like. They're like, oh, I used to love doing this when I visited vacations.
Speaker B: I know, Jen, you said we did
Speaker C: a lot of camping. My mom loved to camp and as a kid I liked it. Now I'm not super interested in outdoors.
Speaker B: I really see you in tent.
Speaker C: I'm not. Yeah, built.
Speaker A: You're outdoorsy and you drink on patios. Yes.
Speaker C: That's what foremost we all know. I won't even walk in grass because threat of ticks. So I'm not interested in being in tick village out, uh, in the woods of tick central. But as a kid it was fun. Like, I liked doing that kind of stuff. Then I grew up and I was like, oh, this is too much. I need a hotel. And. And also like depending on when you go or where it's hot in a tent, like, you know me, I'm not.
Speaker B: I can't.
Speaker C: I need air conditioning. But in my late. I did go camping again for like two nights. And it's cool. And um, there is something to be said about just being out in the quiet with a fire roaring and nature. Although I. What, like all kinds of sounds like creeped me out. Is that a raccoon or a murderer? Is it a bear or is it Michael Myers or Jason? You know what I mean? Like, I'm not. I don't know. And it freaked me out a lot. And way too wimpy for stuff, for anything really spicy foods, processes the wild.
Speaker A: I don't like sleeping on the ground, but I do like camping and fires and having like nothing to do and just like putting your phone away and, um, enjoying nature and sunset.
Speaker C: I will say one thing that is not cool about not being connected to anything is it was me and, uh, my girlfriend and my best friend and my girlfriend shut the keys in the trunk. And so getting somewhere with a signal called aaa, that was a real treat. But Kimmy knew, knew she was like, I gotta get some s' mores and hot dogs on the fire. Which did help. I mean, she knew. Well, so, yeah, it's real nice to be on somebody locking.
Speaker B: I love camping. I didn't camp much as a kid. I didn't camp as a teenager. Which is, I think kind of got me excited about it. And I still camp now.
Speaker C: Nice.
Speaker B: But there was something to be said. Last year was the first time I camped with an rv.
Speaker C: I could get down.
Speaker A: It was really hot that day too.
Speaker C: I went, you know, you had to walk to the outhouse. Oh, and then there's all these, like, daddy long legs as you're trying to eat. Like, I don't take a flashlight down to the bathroom. Just like, um, get you.
Speaker A: I got a really funny meme yesterday sent to me. Uh, it said, uh, I'm naming the spider in the corner Cotton eye Joe. Cause where did you come from? Where did you go?
Speaker C: It was me at the. With my flashlight. Oh, I know where it came from. The woods.
Speaker B: Where are you living? Yeah, that's hysterical.
Speaker C: Get out.
Speaker A: I laughed a lot. And then I had that song stuck in my head all day yesterday, so probably gonna happen again today.
Speaker C: Yeah, I think I'm more of a glamper. I mean, I know I'm more.
Speaker B: Well, they have. If you still want the tent experience without having to pitch the tent, they have safari tents and they're on a platform. There's electricity now. There's not air conditioning, but there's fans. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And there's flushing in there. Then, of course, there's tent camping and then cabins.
Speaker C: Cabins are pretty cool. We did that once. There was a place back, uh, home, Poe Patty and Poe Valley, that was not far from home, that had, like, little cabins that were cute. Like, that was fun.
Speaker B: You mean Poe Patty.
Speaker A: Po.
Speaker C: Patty.
Speaker B: Po. Patty.
Speaker C: Yep. And. Oh, you would. Yeah. So Patty and I, uh. I think. Well, somebody was talking about it recently. They did this thing where you were picking up little soda tabs, and they. And you turn it in and, like, get prizes. Was that us? I was talking about that. I only ever picking up trash and.
Speaker B: Yeah, you pick them up and you turn. Usually people are collecting them to, like, raise money for something.
Speaker C: Yeah. But it. At this campground, it was like, they made it into, like, a contest for kids. And I thought, well, that's genius. And all these kids running around cleaning
Speaker A: up all the litter for, like, a
Speaker C: couple, you know, trying to inspire.
Speaker B: Yeah.
Speaker C: Or what's that called? Chinese finger.
Speaker B: Finger torture.
Speaker C: Yeah. Like those stupid little prizes. And you'd be like, you're 2,000 soda tabs. It was back, like, when the tabs used to come off the sodas, man.
Speaker B: I'm like, I'll tell you this. Uh, well, I mean, my son's 18 now, so let's go back maybe 10 years. We went camping and with another friend and her son. And when you're at a campground, I mean, typically you feel much safer. Like, you're in a, uh, in an area. I mean, I don't know. Don't quote m me on that wherever everybody goes. But where we went, I felt pretty safe. So you're 8 or 10 year olds. You let them go to the little camp store by themselves. It's a time when they can be on their own, um, in a controlled environment. But him and his friend would give them like five bucks and they'd go because those things there was still 25 cents or 50 cent.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker B: And they would come back with a bunch of stuff they didn't need at all. But I remember that trip so specifically because when asking the most fun he had that summer, he said, that trip. And I said, what? What'd you enjoy about it? He said, I felt. I don't know how he worded. He didn't say, I felt freedom. Huh. He said, I felt like I was on my own. I felt like a big boy because he was able to walk around all by himself and his friend. And I remember thinking that, like, yeah, I think as a kid, I remember
Speaker C: it was like a big deal. Things got to go on his own and do something.
Speaker B: He's like, I got money. I'm gonna go to the store.
Speaker C: I'm, um.
Speaker B: Classic little kitchen. But yeah, he felt so, like, adult.
Speaker C: Like, yeah, that's cool.
Speaker B: Yeah.
Speaker A: So I feel like these days, most campgrounds either have security, like at the gate, or there's a gate code that you have to put in. So, you know, not that you can't walk through the woods and get in there, but I feel like people aren't like, yes, you know, who's stuck in campers?
Speaker B: It felt safe.
Speaker C: I don't have good ideas now, Kathy.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker B: I was going to say. I don't say they're safe. And then people go, hey, trust me, I have gone camping. I've always felt safe.
Speaker A: Oh, we went to one place, uh, when we were camping in the Volkswagen van somewhere in South Carolina. It was called Hole in the woods or something.
Speaker C: That does not sound, um, the f. Yeah, this sounds like.
Speaker A: I mean, it was out in the middle of absolutely nowhere. And it's not that I did. I don't know, maybe I didn't feel safe there. But literally on the way to the bathroom, there was a gate to the water that said, uh, beware of alligators. Oh, man. Now I don't.
Speaker B: Should we stay here?
Speaker A: I have to walk to the bathroom in the middle of the night. I'm going to get eaten by an alligator.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker B: Missing and holding in the woods.
Speaker A: Well, it's funny. We were in a little town that we both really liked, and there were two options for Camping. And one of them was like way, way, way out there. And um, we just wanted to be closer to that town for the morning. So they had a site and we went and stayed and I don't know that we stayed more than one night but I mean they had clean restrooms, they had laundry facilities, all of that stuff. It was just, it was small and in the middle of nowhere and there were alligators.
Speaker B: I definitely want to let my 8 year old son walk around there.
Speaker A: Yeah. Alligator schnacks in hole in the W.
Speaker B: What's the camping uh, what do they call it? What the. I think One Eyed Johnny or toad hole or something. It's. It's the bread that you put the hole in and then you drop the egg in. Oh yeah, there's a lot in the hole. Toad in the hole.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker B: Yeah.
Speaker C: One Eyed Johnny. One Eyed Johnny. You better watch out with me. One of those. And then we a couple times as a kid, uh, went to Disney World. That was a big deal.
Speaker B: Oh, that is a big deal.
Speaker C: Disney World was great.
Speaker B: I mean that's like the quintessential family vacation.
Speaker C: Yeah. I have to tell you, I mean I've gone as an adult and I'm like not one of those like crazy Disney adults, but Disney's magical. I don't care what anybody says.
Speaker B: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker C: Disney is magical. Everything they do is like to the nth degree. Like everything's so magical.
Speaker B: Yeah. It's cool.
Speaker A: My parents to me when I was five, I remember nothing.
Speaker C: I was four the first trip and the only thing I remember is being in the Dumbo.
Speaker A: It's funny, I have a vague, vague memory of that but I don't know if it's from being there later on or.
Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. My first trip was not. Was hard to remember as well.
Speaker A: All I know is my parents tell the story of they stayed in some like roadside motel because they drove from Maryland to Florida. And I had two, two or three stuffed animals and I left them in the room and they got quite a ways uh, south and had to turn around and go back and get them. I had like. They did. I had a. Well, I probably was having a meltdown. I had a Snoopy and a one or two like little bunny rabbit things that I carried everywhere at that time. So they went back and got them.
Speaker C: Wow. We always drove which was always. I mean that was from Central pa so we Disney's like.
Speaker B: Did you stop at south of the border?
Speaker C: Of course we did. We absolutely stopped at south of illegal
Speaker B: fireworks on the way back.
Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker A: Has anyone stopped at south of the Bor. I'd been an adult. Adult.
Speaker C: No.
Speaker A: It's terrible.
Speaker C: I mean, I'm not surprised in any way. I didn't think it was going to be a kid, but I feel like you're in.
Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. As a kid, it looks really exciting, but as an adult, I can see.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker B: It's been.
Speaker A: I don't know where I was. I'm obviously going somewhere south. And I was like, oh, let's just stop. I honestly think I had to pee. Bad idea. Pee somewhere else.
Speaker B: Talk about school marketing. The billboards all the way down.
Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
Speaker B: Just.
Speaker C: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A: They start like 500 miles before you get there or something. Crazy.
Speaker B: Keep.
Speaker A: Start over.
Speaker C: Yeah. Boy, that's expensive marketing. That's funny. Yes, definitely. South of the border. Good times.
Speaker B: I know, right? Other vacations. So I never, as a child skied. Um, my first time skiing was in high school.
Speaker C: Did anybody. Yeah, I was in high school the one of two times I ever skied.
Speaker B: I know a lot of families vacation skiing. That was.
Speaker A: I was in my 20s, I think, the first time I skied, which.
Speaker B: That's when fear. Fear starts obviously sooner than happened. Like, I think if I would have started skiing as a kid, it would have been.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker B: A different story.
Speaker A: And so Starsides, Pennsylvania, where it's just ice.
Speaker C: Yeah. And that's the only place I've ever skied. So I only know that skiing in
Speaker A: the Poconos, actual snow skating out west is pretty.
Speaker C: But now I'm too old. I would just break everything.
Speaker B: But I just.
Speaker C: I'm half broke now.
Speaker A: Not even skiing.
Speaker B: I have snow tubers.
Speaker C: Can you imagine me on skis? What day.
Speaker B: Foreign. Things Jen won't do. Don't take her.
Speaker A: No camping. No.
Speaker C: Uh, adventurous.
Speaker A: I want to jump out of a plane with Jess and I. Next time.
Speaker C: No, there is not a chance. Cannot believe you guys jumped out of a plane. Look, I know people love to do it. It's not me.
Speaker B: Well, we had some Brazilian men tandem with us. They were very good, very professional.
Speaker C: Yeah, they were great. I imagine that the feeling is pretty awesome. I mean, I think it's half terrifying and half awesome. But I think probably that amount of adrenaline is. Is hard to describe. And I bet it's pretty cool, everything leading up to it, like, being in that plane or like even, like, to the point of, like, having to get jump out, like, which. I know your person. It's not you. You know what I mean? Like, you're not the one that has to be, like, okay, I'm going to go now. Like, they go like you're somebody else's mercy. But I couldn't. I don't think I could do the
Speaker A: plane that we were in. I wanted out of it. I was very happy. There was a parachute.
Speaker C: You're not selling it.
Speaker B: The truth is. Well, Kathy went first. It wasn't planned that way. That's just how it went. I got in the plane first and she was right there at the doors. I said, bye, Kathy. This works out. You are at the edge. Like, you were literally at the edge of the plane, looking down into, like, nothing.
Speaker A: It was nice because you were right on the coast so you could. You were over the ocean. You could see through the views. It was amazing. M. Incredible.
Speaker B: And staying behind you. Are you ready? Are you ready?
Speaker A: I'm like, do I have a choice? Right?
Speaker B: Just jump. Just jump.
Speaker A: It kind of. I feel like the only way I can describe it is it fully cleared my mind. Like, the only thing was that moment.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker A: And that scenery and that. And then, you know, once they pull the chute and you're just kind of floating down, then things sort of come back to.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker A: You know, like, Jess is a little bit above me into the whatever. But.
Speaker B: Oh, wait, see, Jess made it.
Speaker C: From the moment you jump to the moment you land, what's the time?
Speaker B: Maybe a minute.
Speaker A: Yeah, I was going to say three. It's not long.
Speaker B: Yeah.
Speaker C: Oh, wow.
Speaker B: Well, maybe, maybe. Maybe two or three.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker B: Because you have floating.
Speaker A: Because you're floating. Yeah. You go free falling. Yeah. And then you just float down in like 10 minutes.
Speaker C: No, like, two, three total.
Speaker B: Yeah.
Speaker A: It's not long. For sure.
Speaker C: 30 seconds of free fall.
Speaker B: 30. About 30 seconds of free fall. I will say that the. The guys that we jumped with, I was. I mean, I could not have been. Felt better about who we jumped with. And they were. I mean, they're so multitasking. You want to talk about what we do in the restaurant industry every day? We were like, oh, my God, we're so overwhelmed. Multitasking. No, no, no. These guys, too, they are talking to you, calming you down, taking your picture, taking a video. They're trying to. To smile because, like, you're just like, what am I doing? You know?
Speaker C: Right.
Speaker B: The whole time, they are literally directing you.
Speaker A: Yeah. Uh, as they're free falling, reminding you where your arm.
Speaker B: And then they're like, okay, ready to pull and pull your. They're doing the whole thing. And then as you're free falling, they're doing the same thing.
Speaker A: And then they're moving, staring around saying,
Speaker B: Landon, like, hindsight, I'm like, that guy. I mean, that's a lot.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker B: In that couple minutes that he was doing. Yeah.
Speaker A: My nephew asked me yesterday if I had ever been whitewater rafting. Rafting. And I. I said no. And he said, would you do it? And I said, I think so. Like, I don't have any interest in. I'm shocked, like, knocking my head off.
Speaker B: Not every day.
Speaker A: Right? That's true. I don't need to add any more brain injuries.
Speaker C: I mean, I don't either, but. Yeah. I'm surprised. I would see you as a white water raptor.
Speaker A: Yeah. I don't know. I'm not, um, interested in that water.
Speaker B: I'm not a great swimmer, so.
Speaker C: Water.
Speaker B: And I know you have a life thing.
Speaker A: I mean, tubing down a lazy river. Hell, yeah. Like, even a real river, like down the mountain or whatever. But the rapids and all the rocks and all the obstacles.
Speaker C: Yeah, no. Well, good. Glad to hear there's somewhere you draw a line.
Speaker A: No, he does want to like, jet ski and parasail and all.
Speaker C: I'm up for all those actually considered parasail. It's like, a little iffy, but I
Speaker B: wasn't a hard no.
Speaker C: It's not a hard no. Like, there's part of me that really. It'd be so cool to be up there, but also slightly terrified. I don't know if you could say I'm, like, afraid of heights, but, like, I'm not a fan. I'm just afraid of everything. It's. I mean, really well, I mean, as
Speaker B: we get older, our fears grow. That is just the truth. I think I told Kathy on that thing, the jumping we were talking about, and I said, we gotta do it because at some point, like, fear take over. Yeah, you're not gonna want it yet. So.
Speaker A: It's funny, the white water rafting thing has always been one of those. I've been asked to go before, like, even when I was younger, and I was like, I don't think so.
Speaker B: The one time I was going to do it and I would have done it. I don't think I would do it now, but I was going to do it. It's when I lived out in Colorado and we really wanted to do it, but that was the year. Well, I'm sure there's many years that this happens, but it was m. One of the years that they had said the rapids were the highest and, like, there's certain levels. I don't know if it was like a color code or level 5. But it was the highest level. And they just said, like, you know, even.
Speaker C: Even, like the processional risk.
Speaker B: Yeah, we're. We're not doing certain rapids. And I thought, well, that's probably enough for me not to do it as the first time this year.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker B: And then we moved away and didn't get to do it.
Speaker A: So my favorite adrenaline, ah, junkie thing was mountain biking. I used to go to the Dominican Republican mountain bike, which was phenomenal. They'd take you up the mountain and you just came back down. Sometimes at a very nice speed on the heels. Sometimes technical. Like trying to get down the side of a mountain that was like this with little, like straight down with little bumps that you had to jump to.
Speaker C: Nope.
Speaker A: Fun times. Cross the rivers and rapids. We walked through the river that had rapids with my bike on my shoulder.
Speaker C: Jeez, that's intense.
Speaker A: Crossing waterfalls and things like. That was really cool. Like up at the top, riding your bike across the top of a waterfall.
Speaker C: I mean, that sounds cool.
Speaker B: See, there's all types of vacations. There's strolling on the boardwalk, and then there's mountain biking down.
Speaker C: Yes, a mountain. My, uh, skill level is the best. Boardwalk stroll. That's my adventure level. Skee ball. Now we're talking. I'd even get wild and get on the bumper cars. Not the pirate ship, though. Not the pirate ship.
Speaker A: The bumper cars were the cluster cars. The other day I was watching them on the boardwalk. There were way too many cars in there. Like you could even move, uh, scared, run into someone.
Speaker C: Yeah. When I was a kid, though, I hated it because I always. I don't know if you guys have heard of Knoebel's Amusement Resort, but it was just recently, like, one of the top rated amusement parks in the country. But that's, like, basically in my backyard at home. I worked there for a short stint, too, but those bumper cars. There was a guy that worked there forever and ever and ever. I'm pretty sure he passed. But, man, if you got turned around and did. Because there was a huge sign that was like, no head ons. And if you got turned around and didn't get turned back around enough time, you would get yelled at on the loudspeaker. And I got yelled at once, and I was never the same. Get that back on these bumper cars. Because the guys can yell. Yeah. I got publicly shaped with not being able to turn my car around again. I keep getting rammed into. I can't help it. And he's like, no head ons. Turn around. Horrified.
Speaker B: The steering.
Speaker C: It's.
Speaker A: The steering is so lucky.
Speaker C: It's no joke. And I got yelled at. I wasn't happy. And then I didn't get back on the bumper cars for a while. I was what algae was. And they had like, a, uh. I think it's still on there. A painting of him yelling, like, no, head on. Oh, God. But, yeah, I got yelled at and was like, well, gonna have to go over to something easier. The teacups or something. I gotta go over to the teacups. I don't get yelled at on the teacups.
Speaker B: Well, I mean, they have the teacups by us now, too, so.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker B: There are just some things that don't change.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker B: When vacations from we won't date ourselves but years ago to what we see going on now.
Speaker C: Core Brothers soft serve. I mean, there's just some things that are. Fisher's popcorn. I mean, there are things that have just been a staple and a tradition.
Speaker B: So a big thing in Jersey was Zeppelies.
Speaker C: Oh, I feel like I hear. What is that?
Speaker B: Yeah, it's basically a funnel cake, but it's a ball. Okay. They're like dough balls that are deep fried, and then they're in a bag with powdered sugar. Uh. Oh, my gosh. So good. Yeah.
Speaker C: I love that.
Speaker A: Something for the seagulls to steal. Well, stop feeding the seagulls, please.
Speaker C: Literally. Joel was here last week. We went to the beach, and I inevitably sit by whoever's kids are gonna feed the seagull, and I'm like, but stop feeding the seagulls.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker C: I don't.
Speaker B: Yeah. And then they. Well, you know, we all know what happens after you feed a seagull. All his bazillion friends, everybody comes, and they're not nice to each other.
Speaker C: No.
Speaker B: They're fighting for the same French fry. In which case the little kids scream and they cry because they're now afraid.
Speaker C: Yes. And the little girls are like, hunting. And I'm like, you did this.
Speaker A: Look. The consequences of your actions.
Speaker C: Yeah. I kind of hope they pick you. You did this. Now we're all suffering.
Speaker B: They were happily just doing their thing up on the boardwalk.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker B: Uh, they're here on the beach.
Speaker C: They are fries.
Speaker B: Yeah. I always feel bad for seagulls, though. I know. They're. They're vultures.
Speaker A: They're rats with wings.
Speaker B: When you read Jonathan, Jonathan Livingston Seagull, you can't help but feel for a seagull. Anyhow, Jonathan just wanted to fly the store.
Speaker A: Yeah. Stop stealing people's funnel cake. He's a reformed seagull.
Speaker C: Reformed?
Speaker A: Was there a 12 step program?
Speaker B: No, Kathy. He just believed he could be more than he could. And even shunned him. He went off and he. He learned to soar. Okay. Like think it was an evil. So whatever bird he was trying to. Trying to be like. Yeah, I like it.
Speaker A: All right.
Speaker C: All right.
Speaker A: We're gonna wrap this episode up. Thanks for listening. We can't wait to talk to you again. We'll talk to you then. Thanks.
Speaker B: Bye.
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