
The Thinking Leader · 2023-12-11 · 47 min
With COP28 coming to a close this week, we throw back to Episode 33 of The Thinking Leader where Bryce spoke with Michael Kleeman about what the human race has built is sub-optimal. This conversation feels more important than ever given the potential of the decisions being made about the fate of the planet in Dubai this week. Bryce and Michael discuss dealing with problems in complex systems. The main problem facing the human race is the fact we have built sub-optimal systems and processes that are unsustainable. These systems inherently produce waste products and lose value on a local level. Bryce recalls the time he met the founder of Toyota and how their company had a 100 year plan, positing that planning this far ahead is a necessity. Michael wants to see CEOs and leaders be incentivized to optimize their businesses for the long term. It is important for leaders to have a reason why they do what they do.