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The Smart Economy Podcast

Hosted by Ragnarok Digital, LLP

Listed under News › Tech News, Business › Investing, Technology

The Smart Economy Podcast features interviews with some of the most interesting people within the blockchain industry, working to make the new smart economy a reality.

117 episodes · publishes fortnightly · latest 2026-07-23 · ~58 min/episode

Rank

#216

Substance

72.0

/ 100

Breakdown

Scored 2026-08
Updated monthly

Finance rank

#43 of 162

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Across the index

#216 of 1056

Substance

Top 20%

outscores 80% of the index

Why it scores where it does

The Smart Economy Podcast ranks #216 on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 72.0 out of 100, scored across 5 recent episodes. It scores highest on guest caliber and insight density. Christian St. Louis is a relevant practitioner - he's an active VC partner at a fund actively deploying capital in crypto, previously a founder himself backed by the same fund, and has direct experience in both data/tech and venture. His brother's role at the Ethereum Foundation adds relevant context. However, he's neither exceptionally senior nor a household name in VC; he's more mid-tier operator than top-tier strategist. His insights are grounded in real deal flow and portfolio work but lack the weight of managing multi-billion AUM or exceptionally high-profile exits.

The five-dimension breakdown

Averaged across 5 recently scored episodes, with cited evidence.

Insight Density

14.6 / 20

The episode delivers moderate substance with several worthwhile ideas about founder psychology, dealing with AI-generated deal flow, and the contrarian thesis of focusing on hard problems versus trendy categories. However, significant portions consist of throat-clearing context-setting (education policy, his background story), philosophical musings without sharp conclusions, and repeated agreement rather than novel claims. The insights about LLM gaslighting founders and the difficulty of staying focused are useful but not densely packed throughout.

“I think it's still like a lot of the same ideas from back in the day. But, like, there's nothing better than when a founder, you know, pitches an idea and you're like, wow, that is creative.”

“the LLM just genuinely is trained to gaslight you into thinking that you're Elon Musk. Right. Like, it's just, like, it's just the way it is.”

Originality

13.4 / 20

Christian articulates some contrarian positioning (backing hard problems over trendy AI services, staying in unfashionable sectors through cycles) but the core framework is well-worn VC reasoning. The divergence between institutional adoption and cypherpunk values is presented as novel but has circulated widely. The observation about AI and stablecoins infrastructure needing time is sensible but not counterintuitive. Most framing echoes established crypto wisdom about building in bear markets and founder psychology mattering more than ideas.

“the majority of capital always has and will flow downhill”

“you want to build in a bear market”

Guest Caliber

17.2 / 20

Christian St. Louis is a relevant practitioner - he's an active VC partner at a fund actively deploying capital in crypto, previously a founder himself backed by the same fund, and has direct experience in both data/tech and venture. His brother's role at the Ethereum Foundation adds relevant context. However, he's neither exceptionally senior nor a household name in VC; he's more mid-tier operator than top-tier strategist. His insights are grounded in real deal flow and portfolio work but lack the weight of managing multi-billion AUM or exceptionally high-profile exits.

“I'm a partner at Ethereal Ventures, a VC firm that spun out of consensus in 2021”

“I was also a founder that was funded by Ethereal”

Specificity & Evidence

13.8 / 20

The episode lacks concrete numbers, named examples, and specific metrics. Christian mentions his deal flow breakdown (32% AI, 20% DeFi, 10% payments in Q1) but provides no year-over-year comparison or portfolio outcomes. He references Virtuals, Kalshi, and general categories (stablecoins, prediction markets) but rarely with specifics. X402 transaction volumes ($10M) and agent registrations (425k) are mentioned by the host, not the guest. No discussion of specific fund size, deployment pace, or actual portfolio returns. The team size (5 investors) is concrete but minimal.

“for Q1, our deal flow, we saw 32% of what we saw was AI. Um, so, you know, obviously that's the mind share. Still a good amount of DEFI at about 20%”

“we remember Virtuals. We, we looked at it in 2024 and I spoke to the team”

Conversational Craft

13.0 / 20

Dylan asks solid questions that push Christian to elaborate on founder psychology, VC ethics, regulatory uncertainty, and contrarian theses. There are several good follow-ups (clarifying what 'founder-first' means, probing the Joe Lubin brand risk, exploring AI-slop filtering). However, Christian often gets space to deliver long reflective answers without sharp pushback or productive disagreement. When he offers vague claims ("there's new news that comes out every week now that is genuinely interesting"), Dylan doesn't press for specifics. The host is respectful but rarely adversarial or skeptical, missing opportunities to test assumptions about future adoption curves or stablecoin utility.

“You'd have to spin up your own firm if you knew that.”

“So two and a half years ago, um, like, let's just assume you started January 1, 2024. Like, that was when virtuals was really kind of having its moment in the sun”

Standout episodes

  • Christian St. Louis of Ethereal Ventures on Building Through Crypto’s Quietest Cycle

    2026-07-02

    81
  • Andrés Salcedo of Etherfuse on Tokenizing Sovereign Bonds for Latin America

    2026-07-23

    80
  • Illia Polosukhin of NEAR on AI Operating Systems & Blockchain Infrastructure

    2026-06-04

    72

Rank over time

3 periods tracked.

Episodes

5 scored on substance · 62 tracked in total.

  • Andrés Salcedo of Etherfuse on Tokenizing Sovereign Bonds for Latin America

    2026-07-23 · 1h 5m

    80 / 100
  • Christian St. Louis of Ethereal Ventures on Building Through Crypto’s Quietest Cycle

    2026-07-02 · 1h 7m

    81 / 100
  • Web4 Explained: Anndy Lian on AI Agents, Blockchain, & Digital Sovereignty

    2026-06-18 · 1h 7m

    58 / 100
  • Illia Polosukhin of NEAR on AI Operating Systems & Blockchain Infrastructure

    2026-06-04 · 1h 4m

    72 / 100
  • From Market Making to AI Rails: Alexis Sirkia of Yellow

    2026-05-21 · 1h 5m

    69 / 100

Frequently asked

What is The Smart Economy Podcast's substance score?
The Smart Economy Podcast scores 72.0 out of 100 for substance and ranks #216 on The B2B Podcast Index. That puts it ahead of 80% of the B2B podcasts we rank and #43 of 162 in Finance. The score reflects insight density, originality, guest caliber, specificity and conversational craft across recent episodes - not downloads.
Is The Smart Economy Podcast worth listening to?
Yes - The Smart Economy Podcast outscores 80% of the B2B finance podcasts and shows we rank on substance, so a finance operator is likely to come away with something useful.
Who hosts The Smart Economy Podcast?
The Smart Economy Podcast is hosted by Ragnarok Digital, LLP.
How often does The Smart Economy Podcast publish?
The Smart Economy Podcast publishes fortnightly, has 117 episodes, released its most recent episode on 2026-07-23.
Which The Smart Economy Podcast episode should I start with?
Our highest-scoring recent episode is "Christian St. Louis of Ethereal Ventures on Building Through Crypto’s Quietest Cycle" (81/100) - a good place to start.

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Frequently discusses

Companies, products and tools that come up most across this show's episodes.

Binance · 2Ethereum · 2neonestoday.com · 2WeChatNeoBitcoinTetherCircleSingapore Institute of International AffairsMongolia Productivity OrganizationNEAR ProtocolIron ClawOpen ClawChatGPTClaudeY CombinatorWebAssemblyYellow

Guests who've appeared

Andrés SalcedoChristian St. LouisAnndy LianIllia PolosukhinAlexis Sirkia

Topics this show covers

The themes that come up most across this show's episodes.

blockchain · 13Web3 · 9crypto · 8Ethereum · 4Stablecoins · 3AI agents · 3Tokenization · 2RWAs · 2DeFi · 2Bitcoin · 2Smart Economy Podcast · 2Web3 gaming · 2USDCUSDTYield-bearing stablecoinsBitsoSmartEconomyPodcastEtherfuse

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