
Hosted by Recruitment Coach Mark Whitby
Join "the Recruitment Coach" Mark Whitby as he and his guests unpack the secrets of what it takes to be a profitable and long-lived professional in the recruitment industry.
279 episodes · publishes weekly · latest 2026-07-01 · ~63 min/episode
Rank
#4668
Substance
51.0
/ 100
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Scored 2026-07
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The Resilient Recruiter ranks #4668 on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 51.0 out of 100, scored across 1 recent episode. It scores highest on guest caliber and insight density. Jeff McGraw has genuine depth (30 years, 11-person firm, NPA since 1994) and Jen Anderson has a decade of firm ownership plus board experience, giving them practitioner credibility. However, all three guests are small independent operators recruited explicitly to provide testimonials for a sponsored episode, which caps the caliber ceiling considerably.
Averaged across 1 recently scored episode, with cited evidence.
A handful of actionable nuggets surface - blind-copying partners on client correspondence, bringing a trading partner onto the intake call to add domain credibility, and the fee negotiation anecdote - but they are spread thin across nearly an hour of promotional framing, pleasantries, and restatements of the obvious. The insight-per-minute ratio is low.
“I just immediately turned around and called our trading partner. I'll shout out for Howard. And he came on the intake call with us together. At the end of a 45 minute call, we spoke and he's like, Jeff, I got the guy.”
“I personally copy them, blind copy them and all my correspondence with the client, with the candidate, because I want them to know what's happening”
Split fees are a decades-old concept and every idea here - trust, relationships, complementary geography, sharing the fee 50-50 - is exactly what you'd expect from a promotional explainer for a split-fee network. There is no contrarian framing, no first-principles reasoning, and no argument that challenges received wisdom in recruiting.
“This is an old concept, right? It's been around for decades.”
“treating other recruiters as collaborators, not competitors, might be the best business development decision you make this year”
Jeff McGraw has genuine depth (30 years, 11-person firm, NPA since 1994) and Jen Anderson has a decade of firm ownership plus board experience, giving them practitioner credibility. However, all three guests are small independent operators recruited explicitly to provide testimonials for a sponsored episode, which caps the caliber ceiling considerably.
“I'm Jeff McGraw with William Charles Search Group. I'm based in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Our other partners are in Grand Rapids, Michigan. So we're 11 people at this stage of the game, 25 years in business.”
“I've been in the recruiting industry for 15 years. I've owned my company for 10. I've been part of NPA for 10 years, and I currently serve on the board for the Americas”
There are concrete details - six splits in year one, 55 splits over a decade, 2.5% network fee, 50-50 split structure, a specific optics-engineer placement story, and a fee negotiation from 25% to 30% - but no revenue figures, no client names, no win-rate data, and no broader market evidence. The numbers that exist are thin anecdotes rather than systematic evidence.
“Heather made six splits in her first year with NPA. Jen has made over 55 in the last decade. And Jeff has been doing split placements since 1994.”
“our typical split is 50-50. We share the fee equally with the 2.5% coming out from each side of the split.”
This is a sponsored testimonial panel and the host's questions are almost entirely softballs designed to elicit positive stories - 'what's been your experience?', 'what misconceptions do you think recruiters have?' - with no meaningful pushback, no stress-testing of claims, and reflexive affirmations ('makes sense,' 'fantastic,' 'awesome') after every answer. The one moment of structural interest (bringing a partner onto the intake call) is not probed for mechanics or failure modes.
“Makes sense, I guess.”
“Fantastic. Well, I'm looking forward to getting into that.”
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