The Pre-Read · 2026-05-11 · 25 min
Climate mandates, GRC strategy, and a bike metaphor that'll change how you think about controls. In this episode, Alyssa Zucker speaks with sustainability expert Mark Mellen on California's SB 253 soft launch - and why companies treating this year as a free pass will be blindsided in 2027. Then 25-year GRC veteran Graeme Fleming explains why governance-first programs help organizations move faster. Chapters 00:00 - Intro: California, GRC, and what's at stake 01:45 - Mark Mellen: California SB 253 and the soft launch 07:00 - SB 261, climate risk, and the commercial case 10:00 - Global mandates: CSRD, ISSB, and the fragmented web 11:30 - The ESG controller and data governance 17:00 - Quantifying sustainability value 20:00 - Graeme Fleming: Putting the G back in GRC 22:00 - AI, the EU AI Act, and GRC's strategic role 23:00 - The bike brake framework Subscribe for new episodes!
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