Season Finale: Partnership in Action with Riane Eisler and Eli Ingraham

Riane Eisler: Welcome to the Power of Partnership Podcast. I'm Rhianne Eisler, president of the center for Partnership Systems. This podcast brings you voices from the partnership movement. People using partnership practices to build a world that values caring nature and shared prosperity. The Power of Partnership Podcast is hosted by Cheri Jacobs Pruitt, a health policy and partnership scholar. And now, um, onto today's pop podcast episode.

Cheri Jacobs Pruitt: Welcome to what is both an ending and a celebration. So while this is the final episode of the current run of the Power of Partnership Podcast, it's also a celebration of everything this movement has accomplished and will continue to accomplish. Over the past 42 episodes, we've explored how partnership principles are transforming communities, organizations, and lives around the world. Each story has been both an inspiration and a roadmap, with all 42 episodes packed with practical tools and real life examples. Today, for this final episode, I'm honored to have two extraordinary guests who embody the spirit of partnership. First is Dr. Rhian Eisler, the visionary behind the partnership movement and author of the Chalice and the Blade, the Real wealth of Nations, Nurturing Our Humanity, and so many others. And Eli Ingraham, longtime partnership consultant, partner, and former CEO of the center for Partnership Systems. Through our discussion today, we're going to take you all on a journey around the globe to highlight the people and projects that are actively carrying partnership forward, proving that while this podcast series may be pausing, the Partnership movement is very much alive and thriving. Welcome to you both. So I want to start by asking you, Rhian, as we look back on these 42 episodes and the conversations we've had, what strikes you most about how the partnership movement has evolved?

Riane Eisler: Well, it certainly has evolved globally, hasn't it? And the interviews that you have done, Cheri, for which I am most grateful, uh, really show that, ah, in Europe, in the United States, uh, in Asia, uh, the Partnership movement sporadically and in a much too spotty way. Because I would like it to go mainstream. And that is the next thing, I hope, the next phase of the movement, um, but it has been changing people's lives, people's work, and the world.

Cheri Jacobs Pruitt: Nice.

Eli Ingraham: Mhm.

Cheri Jacobs Pruitt: Eli, let's hear from you. You've had such a unique vantage point both as a consultant and as past CEO of the center for Partnership Systems. How would you describe the current state of partnership work globally?

Eli Ingraham: Well, first, let me say happy birthday, Rian. That's a big one. And also, Cherry, kudos for the stellar work you've done with the popular, uh, you know, podcast, Pollinating Partnership around the World. And it's just been a joy to see the podcast flourish under your leadership. So I just want to say thank you for that. But in terms of your specific question, how would I describe the current state of partnership? Where do we see it kind of popping up? I would say it is definitely gaining global momentum, but it's also being uh, challenged by the rise of domination based authoritarian regimes and cultural memes. So it's two very real things. But where I see partnership really uh, expressing itself uh, in the world is in the regenerative uh, movements and bioregionalism. Organizations like um, um, the Buckminster Fuller Institute, like the Design School for Regenerating Earth Bioregional Weaving Labs, among others, are really embodying partnership values because they center community voices, cooperation, uh, with and within nature. And uh, they're pushing explicitly against the uh, exploitive domination based systems just to sort of set the stage. Bioregionalism sees the Earth as fundamentally organized by land and water systems or ecosystems that are um, self governing. Was really after the Peace of Westphalia in 1648. That was a significant turning point in world history because it established national sovereignty, ah, as the basis for international relations. It went from you know, how humans were organized by the earth and water to now we had overlaid, you know, this sort of artificial construct. And so this led to the rise of nation states and, and multinational corporations, global financial markets, even things like the UN and wto, World Trade Organization. It shifted power towards an international system sometimes referred to as neoliberalism. Um, and while this globalization did bring economic prosperity and cultural exchange to some parts of the world, it is also what led to profound ecological and societal challenges which Rian talks about in her books. And uh, it's these expansionist policies that have resulted in things like deforestation and widespread pollution, um, biodiversity loss, ah, and as Rhian describes it also led to social inequality through labor exploitation and uh, wealth disparity and uh, pervasive coloniality. So anyway, so all of these crises have kind of fomented a transition back to bioregional or place based, uh, sovereignty that prioritizes really partnership principles. And it fundamentally recognizes the uh, interdependence between human societies and the natural environment. 2 I see partnership ideals really um, embodied in the new economic models that are emerging. And Rhian talked about uh, caring economics in her book the Real wealth of Nations. But I see her ideas really echoed in uh, John Fullerton's Regenerative Economics in Kate Raworth's uh, donut Economics, and Samantha Power's efforts around what she calls Biofi or bioregional finance infrastructure. And also in um, the many Care economy coalitions that have popped up around the world. Just quickly, um, there's a uh, Care Economy Collaborative out of the Open foundation society, the UN's women's uh, major group that's all about making sure care is embedded in the SDGs, um, the feminist New Deal Coalition in the United States and then in Latin America, ah, something called the Global alliance for Care. So lots of CARE related coalitions. And so all of these I think are really informed and inspired by Rhian's work. Um, the other one I would just quickly mention is education. And I think you're going to get into this later, but um, movements that are all about consent based schooling, like Agile Learning Centers and Montessori models, are all activating Rianne's ideas in their learning pedagogies. Um, Riane talks about this in her book Tomorrow's Children, um, promoting student driven learning pathways, uh, over compliance with rigid top down kind uh, of learning methodologies. But I actually in my work also see Rian's partnership ideals in things like um, decolonial education and consciousness education. These are two really exciting fields because they're based on being in what they call right relationship, uh, about self awareness, social responsibility even, uh, more than that, accountability and ecological belonging. And so um, I just want to also say I feel like I'm talking about all of Rihanna's books. Brian talks about this in her book Nurturing Our Humanity. But it just shows how she's really touched on all these different things. So that's. I better stop there. That's what.

Cheri Jacobs Pruitt: So now let's start digging in a little bit more deeply about partnership in action. Today let's turn to our most fundamental partnership space, our homes and families. Rhian, can you tell us about the Peace begins at Home movement and why this work is so crucial?

Riane Eisler: Well, it is very strange to hear leaders talk about peace, um, and about war and about terrorism and about crime without an understanding that yes, peace begins at home. Research shows that our brains are not fully formed when we are born. So that the first five years of life, which are mostly most people spend in their families, are critical. Uh, and that yes, what children observe, what children experience, uh, at that time impacts nothing less than the structure of our brains. And with this, how we feel, how we think, how we act, including even how we vote. We have to understand that they're not two different phenomena, that there is a connection, a spillover from being, uh, from, yes, from a punitive, ah, authoritarian domination Oriented, male dominated, therefore family and that kind of a world. And you know what's so ironic is that, um, Putin, who initiated, as you know, this terrible invasion of Ukraine in Europe, for three years it's been going on, all of this slaughter, uh, he lowered the penalty for some forms of family violence because he gets the connection between a punitive, often violent, um, certainly authoritarian and male dominated family and that kind of a state. We who want a better world, who want less violence, of war, of terrorism, of crime, um, have to really understand the importance of, yes, peace begins at home. And the good news, of course, is that many people, I mean the bad news. I'll start with the bad news. As the United nations points out, Most children, almost 80 to 90% of children, grow up in unsafe environments, their families. So what we really have to focus on is on the good news that many people are beginning today to understand. And that includes the American Psychological association, by the way, which, uh, really researched this again and it is spanking is harmful. And of course worst types of violence are even more harmful. So we've got to connect the dots. So this isn't a question of blame or shame. It's a question of realizing that something better, a partnership way of life is possible, was possible for millennia of our prehistory, as detailed in the Chalice and the Blade.

Cheri Jacobs Pruitt: Beautiful, thank you. Yeah, peace begins at home. I mean, it's such a simple concept. Uh, I know that there's an upcoming event that the center for Partnership Systems hosting in partnership with Hubcast Media on October 29th of 2025. Eli, I know you've been um, involved as well as Rhiann, of course, in the agenda setting. Can you share a little bit about that upcoming event?

Eli Ingraham: So, as Rihanna eloquently talked about, the need to address the root causes of violence has never been more urgent. And so the peace begins at home Summit really responds to this moment. That's what I find really exciting. And it's bringing together global voices. If you look at the lineup, it's uh, peace builders, educators, survivors of trauma, policymakers, cultural leaders, global advocates, scientists, economists, um, grassroots activists. So it's really across so many disciplines and continents. And so in terms of the format, it's going to be keynote talks. Rhiann will be opening it up with a keynote. There will be personal stories, uh, shared connecting, uh, with neuroscience, uh, TED style talks, um, interactive reflections, or young global activists will be sharing uh, their insights and calls to action and then some real world solutioning. So discussion of replicable models around the world so, um, as Rianne said, it's going to really explore how systems of harm begin at home and then they ripple outward and how we can create pathways rooted in care and equity and partnership. So anyway, it's for everyone. It's for healers and caregivers, educators and youth workers, parents, family advocates, peace builders, community leaders, policymakers, systems thinkers, everybody. Business leaders, change makers, survivors, artists, activists. Everybody's invited.

Riane Eisler: And I want to mention some of the names of people who are participating. From India Elegandi, who is of course Gandhi's granddaughter, um, from the men's movement, both, ah, Gary Barker, who's the head of Equimundo, and Jackson Katz, who works with teams of football players and um, veterans and army people. Um, there are, uh, economists participating, neuroscientists, uh, like the neuroscientist Richard, uh, Richardson, who worked with the Dalai Lama. And I really want to encourage everyone to register. And there are various tiers for registration.

Cheri Jacobs Pruitt: It will be in the show notes, but I'll just say again www.peacebeginsathomesummit. to register. Or if you're interested in sponsoring, you can get in touch with the center for partnership systems@centerforpartnershipway.org we'd love to see you there and see you getting involved. So let's shift now to education, um, which is such a powerful vehicle for spreading partnership principles. And I know, Rhian, you've spoken about education as being either a tool of domination or liberation. So can you share more what you mean by this? Riane?

Riane Eisler: Well, you know, uh, progressive educators have really tried to change education, but there are three parts of education, if we think about it. There is process, there is structure and there is content. And most of the work of progressive, uh, transformation of education has focused on process, how we learn and teach. And as important as that is, it is simply not enough. There's been a little focus on structure. I mean, look at the universities. They're so top down. I mean, they're really hierarchies of domination. Despite all the talk about free speech, ah, that goes on, uh, uh, today, um, and of course there is the issue of content. And that has been largely ignored. So tomorrow's Children, and I just got the rights back and I'm updating it, um, the book. I'm doing this with the head of the Montessori foundation and with a woman from Mexico. Um, it is really a very important project. And there are lesson plans for educators in tomorrow's children that I really want to strengthen, update and get out. But uh, because the stories and the language that we use are largely learned in our schools. Take US history. Yes, there are wonderful things about it, but there are also terrible things about it. And if we are to move forward, we really need to recognize both and

Cheri Jacobs Pruitt: where those gaps are.

Riane Eisler: Yes.

Cheri Jacobs Pruitt: So, and Eli, can you share a bit about the Interdisciplinary Journal of Partnership Studies and as an academic, peer reviewed educational resource to help share partnership innovations, um, not only related to education, but across all disciplines and all aspects of our lives.

Eli Ingraham: I'd happy to. Uh, so for those who may not know the uh, ijps, because the name of it is a mouthful and I will refer to it hereafter as the Journal. It's published by the University of Minnesota Libraries Publishing in collaboration with the UH School of Nursing, which is so interesting, together with CPS Rian's organization. And it was launched in 2014. It's a peer reviewed, open access, volunteer run academic journal that promotes cultural, uh, transformation through the lens of Riyan's partnership principles. It's really a remarkable group of people, um, publishing this. And so last year I had the honor of guest editing the journal in its 10th year. And it was really very exciting for me. And I was particularly drawn to the journal's, um, specific intention to disrupt the conventions of traditional academic journals. And they do this by expanding access, inviting transdisciplinary research and offering multilingual versions of it. Like, this isn't really done in academia. So I just want to give them a shout out. It's a really beautiful team led by Rion. Um, so we look at today's challenges that we've been saying are very complex and interdependent. And it's going to take, um, the kinds of whole system solutions that are profiled in the journal to address these meta challenges. And I also want to give a shout out to you. Just what you do with the podcast is also doing what the journal does where you profile practitioners, uh, so that, you know, people can learn about them. And this is why the podcast and the journal are so important. Because none of us can solve the issues of the world by ourselves. Right. It's going to be our combined repeated, synchronized efforts, uh, no matter on what level, that's going to hopefully eventually turn domination systems into partnership systems. And it's going to be all of us, individually and collectively, boldly holding up the mirror of reality that refracts a very different way of interbeing. Right. And so I view the journal and the podcast, uh, as really part of that, you know, helping by recording stories Others are inspired, they get ideas. And these stories pollinate partnership practices around the globe. And it's a really important fractal mechanism for replicating transformative works through a medium where the DNA is rooted in the partnership ethos.

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Cheri Jacobs Pruitt: Are there, um, anything you would like to share? Eli, for educators listening who want to bring more partnership principals into their work, what would be your encouragement to them or your recommendations?

Speaker F: All right, thank you for asking that. Two things come to mind and um, Rianne kind of alluded to it earlier. One is, um, we know that Rianne advanced the four cornerstones as being very fundamental to a healthy, thriving, partnership based society. What I feel is often missed is the premise that, that domination systems use these very same cornerstones to drive their agenda and people kind of forget that piece of it. And that is why we have to both promote and protect, you know, these kinds of cornerstones. Remembering, as Rion said, with the, uh, Putin's policy, you know, around, um, family

Eli Ingraham: violence, you know, these drivers are used.

Speaker F: So I would want educators to be really informed on that piece. Okay. Um, the other thing I would want to say is something I encounter often when talking to people about Rian's partnership principles. And it's why I refer to it as cultural transformation theory. And you'll see why. Because when I talk to people, they

Eli Ingraham: get very inspired by our work and

Speaker F: they get very excited to tell me all the different partnerships that they're doing in their work. And, and they interpret, uh, m. Interpret Riyadh's use of partnership to mean like partnering or collaborating. And so I think it's just really important that educators in particular help tweeze that out. It's almost like partnership little P is to Rianne's partnership the same way.

Eli Ingraham: Uh, and I really struggled for a metaphor.

Speaker F: The best I can do is like the same way the word phone is to iPhone. You know, the iPhone has a ton more attributes. It's not just a phone, it's a calculator and computer and camera and all that stuff. Similarly, Rion's partnership model embraces so much more embraces partnerships for sure, and collaborative stuff. But it's really about a, A, um, worldview. It's about not perpetuating domination and views, values or constructs human. You know, it's about thinking through and building new ways of inter being within families in the ways we learn in our economic systems and in our language. Hence the four cornerstones.

Eli Ingraham: And again, I go back to.

Speaker F: That's why I refer to her work as cultural transformation, because it kind of gets away from the. The partnership problem, if you will, and it captures a much deeper and richer meaning.

Cheri Jacobs Pruitt: So that. That was a beautiful. Getting us set up for the next section that we want to talk. We leave our listeners and viewers with, um, these thoughts to ponder. And that is the aspect of interconnectedness that you talked about in the spiritual dimension of partnership work. Um, so, Eli, start with you on this. Can you speak more about how different faith traditions are finding ways to embrace partnership principles?

Eli Ingraham: You know, in a past life, in my 30s, I was in the ministry so, uh, for about 10 or 12 years. And so it is something that is deeply resonant, uh, for me. And first let me say, you know, healing the universe is a deeply spiritual undertaking. That's really what we're talking about. We're really in a moral crisis. And so I think the spiritual dimension of Rian's, uh, partnership framework is rooted in the sacred feminine that honors life and its cycles. It honors connection, it honors. Right relationship that we talked about a little bit. And so, of course, rather than seeing divinity in a hierarchical dominator form, spirituality is really an expression of interconnectedness and care. Right. Where the divine is manifest in nurturing life, sustaining relationships with people and the natural world. Right. And so this contrasts dramatically with the patriarchal models that often are associated with spirituality in terms of control and punishment and separation. It is really one of the greatest tragedies of humankind. What has happened there? But anyway, so a few examples of where I see different faith traditions manifesting partnership principles include, um, progressive Christian communities. And these are ones that are reclaiming feminine aspects of the divine. You see it in eco theology. Uh, you see it in, uh, churches that are challenging patriarchal norms by reshaping their leadership structures to be more inclusive. Uh, you also see it in Jewish renewal and feminist Jewish theology where they, uh, explore. I think they call it the Shekinah, the divine feminine, uh, presence. And they're reinterpreting the Torah. Those stories Rhian alluded to about Adam and Eve and headship and who was first and all that you know, and then if you move over to uh, Islam, you've got Sufi mysticism and the progressive Muslim thinkers who are really um, highlighting a much more balanced view of masculine and feminine uh, energies. And they're reinterpreting gender roles in the Quran to emphasize equality and partnership. And then I would say uh, in terms of Easter egg traditions, Hinduism, Buddhism, Daoism, um, um, these inherently embrace, you know, um, Yin Yang ideas, uh, that resonate with partnership dynamics. Um, they uh, Modern Hinduism is really elevating the divine feminine energy from what I can tell. And what they call engaged Buddhism, which you see with uh, Thich Nhat Hanh, that really promotes uh, interbeing and mindfulness and nonviolence. It's clearly, you know, resonant with partnership. But I do not want to forget the many indigenous traditions that have never departed from partnership models. Right. They have a deep reverence for Mother Earth, the sacred feminine, inter being, non hierarchical community roles. They center women, uh, as knowledge holders and spiritual leaders.

Riane Eisler: I'd like to add an interconnection that it is a principle that our uh, two men received the Nobel Prize in physics for their work on entanglement in the subatomic level. Interconnection, um, uh, and of course there's a whole movement, uh, talking about interconnection, a spiritual movement. And that is what the real revolution in consciousness is about. Because it starts with the understanding that there is a better alternative. That dominating or being dominated are not the only alternatives. As people within rigid domination systems are taught that there is a partnership alternative and that we don't have to mistake fear for respect. They're two different things entirely. Fear, as in God fearing, is built into domination systems, which are trauma factories by the way. It all starts with a shift in consciousness.

Riane Eisler: Mhm.

Riane Eisler: That is the beginning. And consciousness and change and transformative change are interconnected because if we change the way that we relate to ourselves, uh, in our intimate relations, uh, in our work and community relations, then we go on to also change our national, international, uh, spiritual relations with nature and yes, relation to technology. And I really want to uh, stop with that with AI There's a lot of talk about our dependence and how dangerous it is, uh, on AI and this again is really a distraction because AI is very different if it is programmed for domination or for partnership. And we have every reason to worry about AI if it is programmed for domination. But if it's programmed for partnership, partnership with us.

Cheri Jacobs Pruitt: Beautiful.

Riane Eisler: And then we can use AI the way that we want to use AI to help us Become more human rather than less human and yes, more caring rather than less caring. Beautiful. Lovely.

Cheri Jacobs Pruitt: Eli, anything you'd like to add around that?

Eli Ingraham: Brianne talked about, um, starting with sort of awareness and consciousness. And that's a really important thing because often people say, like, where do I begin? What do I do? And that's, you know, starting with self is. Is where it has to begin. It almost makes it easier. Um, I talk about it in terms of um, cultivating a devotion, a deep spiritual devotion to life. And it sounds kind of hokey, but it's actually what it is all about, where you examine how you honor yourself, how you honor others, how you honor, um, nature. Right? And it's an examination and you have to then kind of move outward. Like I talk to people about have you actually examined what you do for work and the kind of company you worked for? Are they extractive, are they exploitive, do they pollute? Or are they actually working in service to life? And that simple question is often a kind of like holy cow, you know, and then people have to um, decide whether they have the boldness to make changes in their life. And they can do that through their relationship, through parenting, through activism, through any of life's activities. So you, you know, Rhian sort of talks about the ripple effect where, you know, you really have to sort of start at home, right, and then and work out. And that's very resonant even with bioregionalism on um, an ecological scale where it's really about place based efforts like really close to home in your community and then working up to a region, working up, you know, to a, a nation level, working up to it, to the planet. And so that's a really important thing for people to understand. But m. I would say also that all four cornerstones are actually being activated or reactivated right, simultaneously in this sort of growing multidimensional effort to kind of reclaim and reshape our world. And so people, um. It's kind of daunting to think about that, but that is kind of what's going on. It's very easy for people to see that there's a very profound bifurcation going on. You know, authoritarianism versus, you know, democracy, um, autocratic leadership versus inter generational leadership, you know, hyper masculinity, the sacred feminine, like this bifurcation is just becoming more and more, um, prevalent. And so the things we've been talking about today can really help people see that, um, these are all expressions of a worldview and there are different worldviews and we're encouraging that worldview of deep devotion to life. And Rhiann gave us a lens to do that. And her partnership paradigm is sort of sprouting up everywhere through all the cracks in the dominant systems. It's a beautiful thing. You see it in regenerative design and care based uh, economics, in grassroots global organizing. And people can have hope in seeing that. And um, we often talk about uh, top down movements. And the movement that's happening is actually what in bioregionalism we call mycelial network, that vast network of roots below a forest that transport uh, resources that are a communication system, uh, that do all that stuff. It's being translated into people connecting in a global fascia across the planet, talking about partnerism and bioregionalism and all the healthy things that are hopefully going to save us from ourselves. Right. And I just want to kind of, as we're moving toward closing, you know, in the ecological space, they talk about community weavers. Weaving is a big metaphor and it's mostly being led by indigenous women who really operate from ancestral wisdom and are deeply rooted in nature. But I see Rian as a cultural weaver, right. She's um, stripped off all these modern constructs of domination to reveal this beautiful tapestry of a holistic, egalitarian, partnership based way of life. And um, for those of us who grew up in ah, dominant systems, particularly in the global north, particularly in the west, you know, we've been separated from our own indigeneity, we've been separated from nature, separated from ancient wisdom. Um, but knowing that people like Rian in a long line of illuminators have been at this, to me is, I like have chills right now is so exciting because we can all be illuminators. You know, carrying the light in the world of uh, partnership ideals and spiritual ideals and bioregional ideas and connection and

Cheri Jacobs Pruitt: all of that, that is beautiful, Eli. And I don't know if you're going to be able to answer my last and favorite question that I've uh, come to uh, be excited about through my past 42 episodes or 41 episodes. This is 42. And that is asking um, my illustrious guests to share their final words of wisdom. So Eli, let's go ahead and uh, see if you have anything more you'd like to add. Because what you just said was beautiful and very inspiring.

Eli Ingraham: So for everybody asking the question, what do I do? Uh, what you do is you just take the next best step. That's it. You know, get in touch with the topic or the activity that you are passionate about that inspires you. And whether it's education or healthcare or permaculture or youth or, you know, whatever it is, get involved, do some personal work, then start locally. It is so important, important to reclaim being place based. And by that I mean, like, get in touch with the land that you live on. Ask yourself, do you know where the water comes from that comes out of your faucet? Go find out, go visit the reservoir, the river, whatever, and realize, oh my God, I'm part of this. And it changes you. It changes the way you walk and think and you know and feel and so be connected to place and work out from there. And the other thing is join communities of interest in your community, in real life and online. Because online you realize you are part of this global fascia of beautiful people who want to live like this and you're not alone. And feeling not alone is so important. And then my final word. And Rhianne, you know, I love this word poesis. Poiesis is the root word for poetry, and I'm a poet. And poiesis means to bring something into being that did not exist before. To bring something into being that did not exist before. And the invitation is to do that with ourselves. To do exactly what I was talking about, getting in touch and being in service to life and land and play space. Because what it's going to do is bring something forward from you that you didn't even realize was there. And that's what we need everybody to do.

Cheri Jacobs Pruitt: Thank you so much, Eli. And I can't think of a more fitting way to end this iteration of the Power of Partnership podcast by asking you, Dr. Rhiann Eisler, to please share your final words of inspiration with our audience.

Riane Eisler: Well, I think that, uh, I can follow Eli's sound observations and advice with this. Uh, we have focused a lot on the regression to domination. But if you have this partnership domination social scale as your paradigm, you understand that this battle for our future is not between right and left. There have been repressive, regressive regimes in all these categories. What we have to understand that at the same time as we're having this regression, and really largely because of it, there has been movement towards partnership. Uh, first of all, over the last 300 years, if you look at every progressive movement, they have all challenged a tradition of domination. Uh, the rights of man movement, um, so called enlightenment, challenging the so called divinely ordained right of kings to rule their subject. The feminist movement after that, challenging again the so called divinely ordained right of Men to rule over women and children in the castles, their military metaphor of their homes, uh, the abolitionists, the civil rights, the Black Lives Matter movement challenging racism, the movement against antisemitism, a real movement against antisemitism, uh, the environmental movement, for goodness sakes, today, challenging man's once hallowed dominion, domination over nature, over everything that moveth on this earth. But we have to learn that they're all part of the movement towards partnership. And this is where the change in consciousness and the economy, uh, and the reality of what is really happening, uh, rests on, um, changes in consciousness. And as I said, you can all change your worldview, change your consciousness, and you can help those within your sphere of influence change their consciousness. And that is where you start. So I know that these are difficult times, but our job is not to disrupt, um, a lot of disruption happening. Our job is to show that there is a better alternative, a partnership alternative, and to do everything we can ought, uh, to build it at all levels. So thank you so much, Eli and Sherry. This has been a wonderful podcast.

Eli Ingraham: Fabulous conversation. Thank you, Cherry. And thank you, Rhian, always.

Cheri Jacobs Pruitt: Yes, thank you both so much for this wonderful conversation and for everything you're doing to build a world that's based on caring nature and shared prosperity. And to our listeners, while this is our season finale, the work continues. And each of you is part of this global movement towards partnership. Every relationship you transform, every community you touch, every moment you choose partnership over domination, you are carrying this work forward. You can find resources about all the initiatives we discussed today on the show Notes, as well as a link to the center for Partnership Systems, uh, podcast webpage where you can find all of the episodes. And we encourage you to reach out to the center for Partnership Systems to connect with us on the work that most calls to you. So until we meet again, keep building partnership in your own corner of the world.

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Speaker G: Uplift the negative. I'll show up at the table again and again and again. I'll close my mouth and learn to listen.