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The Makeshift CMO

Hosted by Bruce Chen

This podcast is the founder's cheat code to understand marketing beyond unexplainable jargon. We talk about marketing as a strategic function and how it makes a true impact on an early-stage startup.

36 episodes · publishes weekly · latest 2022-11-26 · ~36 min/episode

Rank

#4430

Substance

55.0

/ 100

Breakdown

Scored 2026-07
Updated monthly

Marketing rank

#655 of 995

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Across the index

#4430 of 6219

Substance

Top 71%

outscores 29% of the index

Why it scores where it does

The Makeshift CMO ranks #4430 on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 55.0 out of 100, scored across 1 recent episode. It scores highest on insight density and specificity & evidence. There are a handful of genuinely useful operational observations - the vertical-integration squeeze, Canadian rental market seasonality and the luxury-unit-first contraction pattern - but the bulk of the episode is career narrative, generic startup advice, and host filler. The density of actionable insight per minute is low.

The five-dimension breakdown

Averaged across 1 recently scored episode, with cited evidence.

Insight Density

12.0 / 20

There are a handful of genuinely useful operational observations - the vertical-integration squeeze, Canadian rental market seasonality and the luxury-unit-first contraction pattern - but the bulk of the episode is career narrative, generic startup advice, and host filler. The density of actionable insight per minute is low.

“anytime there's a contraction, it's the higher end that gets hit first”

“we saw that we were getting squeezed on either end. We were just becoming a data provider”

Originality

10.0 / 20

Most of the frameworks offered are explicitly borrowed and well-circulated (the HBO/Netflix quote, 'do things that don't scale', the 100-ideas exercise), and the career advice (say yes young, say no senior) is standard. The niche Canadian rental-market observations are the only meaningfully fresh content.

“I can't remember who said it, but there's a great phrase which is when you start out, you really have to do the things that aren't scalable”

“there's a great quote, I think it was, uh, Netflix, uh, versus hbo. And, uh, the CEO of HBO said we have to become Netflix before Netflix becomes hbo”

Guest Caliber

11.0 / 20

Josh is a genuine practitioner - Director of Product & Operations at a ~75-person Canadian proptech company with real startup experience - but he hasn't operated at notable scale and his insights reflect a mid-career, mid-market operator rather than someone who has built or run something exceptional.

“I'm the director of product and operations”

“probably the most stressful year of my life, um, to that point. But it was also where I saw the most growth”

Specificity & Evidence

12.0 / 20

The episode names specific competitors (Costar/apartments.com, Zillow, Zumper, Rentals.ca), gives a concrete rent-control figure and seasonal demand pattern, and illustrates the 'say no' point with a real Postalgia deal worth ~10% revenue. However, many claims remain vague ('a lot of demand,' 'very large percentage') and company metrics are almost entirely absent.

“your landlord can only raise rents 2.1% I believe next year”

“August is typically the hottest month. And then September you see a big drop”

Conversational Craft

10.0 / 20

The host provides reasonable topic structure and occasionally steers back to relevant themes, but almost never pushes back on a claim, frequently summarises rather than probes, and peppers the conversation with low-value affirmations that interrupt flow without adding depth.

“That's awesome. That's amazing”

“Very good example”

Standout episodes

  • The State of Prop Tech & How You Can Take "Agency" Tactics and Scale it into a Specialized Mar Tech Company

    2022-11-26

    55

Rank over time

First period on the Index - history builds from here.

Episodes

1 scored on substance · 36 tracked in total.

  • The State of Prop Tech & How You Can Take "Agency" Tactics and Scale it into a Specialized Mar Tech Company

    2022-11-26 · 50 min

    55 / 100

Frequently asked

What is The Makeshift CMO's substance score?
The Makeshift CMO scores 55.0 out of 100 for substance and ranks #4430 on The B2B Podcast Index. That puts it ahead of 29% of the B2B podcasts we rank and #655 of 995 in Marketing. The score reflects insight density, originality, guest caliber, specificity and conversational craft across recent episodes - not downloads.
Is The Makeshift CMO worth listening to?
The Makeshift CMO is ranked on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 55.0/100. See the five-dimension breakdown above to judge whether it fits what you're after.
Who hosts The Makeshift CMO?
The Makeshift CMO is hosted by Bruce Chen.
How often does The Makeshift CMO publish?
The Makeshift CMO publishes weekly, has 36 episodes, released its most recent episode on 2022-11-26.
Which The Makeshift CMO episode should I start with?
Our highest-scoring recent episode is "The State of Prop Tech & How You Can Take "Agency" Tactics and Scale it into a Specialized Mar Tech Company" (55/100) - a good place to start.

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Guests who've appeared

Joshua Lipton

Topics this show covers

The themes that come up most across this show's episodes.

Vertical integrationZillowProperty management softwareRent SyncMultifamily marketingKijijiZumperRentals.caApartments.comCostar

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