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The Identity Thread by Entrust

Hosted by Entrust

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Don’t miss an episode. The Identity Thread podcast by Entrust explores the critical issues in identity-centric security. Each episode brings together industry leaders, innovators, and strategic thinkers to explore how identity shapes the future of our world.

59 episodes · publishes monthly · latest 2026-10-22 · ~30 min/episode

Rank

#313

Substance

79.5

/ 100

Breakdown

Scored 2026-08
Updated monthly

Engineering & DevTools rank

#39 of 290

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Across the index

#313 of 6219

Substance

Top 5%

outscores 95% of the index

Why it scores where it does

The Identity Thread by Entrust ranks #313 on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 79.5 out of 100, scored across 2 recent episodes. It scores highest on guest caliber and specificity & evidence. Dr. Ed Mayes is a strong guest - Deputy Assistant Commissioner at CBP with direct operational responsibility for cryptography migration and clear evidence of hands-on leadership. Alice Fakir brings IBM's federal security services perspective and NIST collaboration credibility. Michael Kleiman, as VP of Data Security at Entrust, has vendor-side expertise but is also the show's producer, which introduces a conflict-of-interest dynamic. The guests are substantive practitioners, though Kleiman's dual role slightly weakens the perceived independence of analysis.

The five-dimension breakdown

Averaged across 2 recently scored episodes, with cited evidence.

Insight Density

16.0 / 20

The episode covers substantive technical ground - harvest-now-decrypt-later attacks, Shor's algorithm, crypto agility, PKI strategy, and the complexities of cryptographic infrastructure migration - but much of the discussion is explanatory rather than novel. Dr. Mayes provides some concrete learnings from CBP's proof-of-concept work (latency surprises, the pervasiveness of cryptography), but the core insights are fairly well-established in security circles. The discussion of prioritization and the blocking-and-tackling nature of most organizations is useful but not deeply original.

“we discovered as a whole was you, you, you, you know, you go into something and you start notice, like unraveling a ball of yarn and you think, you know, where all the strings go, right? But what you find out with, you know, uh, cryptography, right, and encryption is, it's everywhere.”

“organizations have got to start moving faster uh, and thinking broader uh, when it comes to here's what good looks like and here's what the capabilities are that they need to have in place to deal with the threats of the day.”

Originality

14.5 / 20

The framing around post-quantum cryptography readiness is timely given the recent executive order, and Dr. Mayes's anecdote about CBP's cloud journey parallels are reasonably illustrative. However, the core arguments - the urgency of quantum threats, the need for crypto agility, the importance of workforce development, the concept of zero trust - are well-trodden in the security industry. Alice's mention of China's quantum key distribution leadership is valuable context, but overall the episode recycles established frameworks without significant contrarian or first-principles thinking.

“this is a threat, uh, where we are now that unlike anything that we've seen in probably 50 years, we've been living using the same sort of encryption techniques for the past 34 years.”

“there's good news here and that is that the technology exists.”

Guest Caliber

18.0 / 20

Dr. Ed Mayes is a strong guest - Deputy Assistant Commissioner at CBP with direct operational responsibility for cryptography migration and clear evidence of hands-on leadership. Alice Fakir brings IBM's federal security services perspective and NIST collaboration credibility. Michael Kleiman, as VP of Data Security at Entrust, has vendor-side expertise but is also the show's producer, which introduces a conflict-of-interest dynamic. The guests are substantive practitioners, though Kleiman's dual role slightly weakens the perceived independence of analysis.

“Dr. Ed Mayes, Deputy Assistant Commissioner, Infrastructure and Support Services and Chief Enterprise infrastructure officer at U.S. customs and Border Protection.”

“Alice Fakir, senior partner and Vice President of cybersecurity services for IBM's US federal market.”

Specificity & Evidence

17.5 / 20

The episode includes concrete details: CBP's 50 million patches per year, the 2028-2029 quantum compute capacity timeline, summer 2026 endpoint readiness from a vendor, 4-5 trillion in trade commerce handled by ACE, IBM's $10 billion quantum investment, and Executive Order 14,409. Dr. Mayes's 'hello world' proof-of-concept and mainframe decryption example ground the discussion. However, many claims lack supporting data: the scale of harvest-now-decrypt-later threats, specific metrics on crypto agility implementation difficulty, and concrete numbers on the migration cost and timeline are absent.

“we did our first proof of concept, right, with uh, using the early NIST algorithms, that sort of thing. And we uh, literally put like an envelope around an application, a small application. Right. Um, and we, you know, we wanted to verify that we could transmit data information from a quantum encrypted environment to um, another device.”

“I do about 50 million patches a year, right? 50 million.”

Conversational Craft

13.5 / 20

Host Ken Cadet asks open-ended setup questions and allows guests to speak at length, which builds narrative coherence but limits interrogation. Follow-ups are rare and mostly affirmative ("Right", "Absolutely"). There is minimal pushback or productive disagreement. When Dr. Mayes claims vendors should improve software quality and asks why industry doesn't help, Michael Kleiman validates rather than challenges. Alice's point about learning fast by failing is left unexamined. The conversation feels more like curated perspectives than a sharp journalistic or analytical interrogation.

“Absolutely. Um, Alice, where are you seeing things across, um, across the federal government?”

“Right. Um, M. Michael, maybe talk a little bit more about where this is headed and what kind of challenges we're seeing out there.”

Standout episodes

  • The Prioritization Problem: Securing AI While Preparing for Post-Quantum

    2026-07-09

    86
  • Inside A Quantum Computer - The Race AI Is Speeding Up

    2026-06-25

    73

Rank over time

2 periods tracked.

Episodes

2 scored on substance · 56 tracked in total.

  • The Prioritization Problem: Securing AI While Preparing for Post-Quantum

    2026-07-09 · 55 min

    86 / 100
  • Inside A Quantum Computer - The Race AI Is Speeding Up

    2026-06-25 · 43 min

    73 / 100

Frequently asked

What is The Identity Thread by Entrust's substance score?
The Identity Thread by Entrust scores 79.5 out of 100 for substance and ranks #313 on The B2B Podcast Index. That puts it ahead of 95% of the B2B podcasts we rank and #39 of 290 in Engineering & DevTools. The score reflects insight density, originality, guest caliber, specificity and conversational craft across recent episodes - not downloads.
Is The Identity Thread by Entrust worth listening to?
Yes - The Identity Thread by Entrust outscores 95% of the B2B engineering & devtools podcasts and shows we rank on substance, so a engineering & devtools operator is likely to come away with something useful.
Who hosts The Identity Thread by Entrust?
The Identity Thread by Entrust is hosted by Entrust.
How often does The Identity Thread by Entrust publish?
The Identity Thread by Entrust publishes monthly, has 59 episodes, released its most recent episode on 2026-10-22.
Which The Identity Thread by Entrust episode should I start with?
Our highest-scoring recent episode is "The Prioritization Problem: Securing AI While Preparing for Post-Quantum" (86/100) - a good place to start.

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Frequently discusses

Companies, products and tools that come up most across this show's episodes.

EntrustBlue CubitGoogleIBMQuantinuumMicrosoftAmazonOpenAINISTStanfordAnthropicShor's algorithm

Guests who've appeared

Michael Kleiman · 2Dr. Ed MayesAlice FakirHaran Gharibian

Topics this show covers

The themes that come up most across this show's episodes.

Post-quantum cryptography · 2Shor's Algorithm · 2Quantum computingHarvest now decrypt later attackNIST post-quantum algorithm guidelinesExecutive Order (June 22 White House quantum readiness)Cryptographic agilityDigital signatures and code signingPKI (Public Key Infrastructure)PIV cards (federal identity)Agentic AIZero-knowledge proofsRSA encryptionElliptic Curve Cryptography (ECC)IBM quantum computingGoogle WillowQuantinuumBlue Cubit

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