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MLA and SCRA 102: Pricing Constraints and the Complexity of Interest Cap Compliance - Servicemember Protections Explained

The Consumer Finance Podcast · 2026-06-25 · 16 min

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Key moments - from our scoring

Substance score

51 / 100

Five dimensions, 20 points each

Insight Density12 / 20
Originality9 / 20
Guest Caliber9 / 20
Specificity & Evidence11 / 20
Conversational Craft10 / 20

Chris Willis, Taylor Jess, and Jeremy Searsing explore how MLA and SCRA protections operate as product design constraints rather than mere servicing requirements. The SCRA's 6% interest cap on pre-service obligations and the MLA's 36% military APR (MAPR) cap present far more complexity than state usury limits because they require answering multiple follow-up questions: which fees count toward the cap, to which balances and customers, at what points in billing cycles, and how to handle retroactive applications and default scenarios. The SCRA defines "interest" broadly to include service charges, renewal charges, and most fees (excluding bona fide insurance), differing sharply from TILA APR definitions. Similarly, the MAPR calculation encompasses credit-related ancillary products, credit insurance, and debt cancellation fees that wouldn't count toward TILA APR. The episode addresses implementation challenges for both closed-end credit (requiring loan recasting and re-amortization) and open-end credit (requiring balance segmentation between pre- and post-service charges). A critical compliance issue involves SCRA's anti-acceleration provision: when excess interest must be forgiven retroactively, regulators require creditors to offer service members a choice between receiving a cash refund or applying forgiven interest to principal, not simply reducing future payments. For MAPR compliance, a "reasonable bona fide fee" exception applies to credit cards, but reasonableness requires market comparisons of similar fees on similar products.

Key takeaways

  • →SCRA and MLA create product design constraints that must be addressed before launch by mapping which fees count as 'interest' under each statute's unique definitions, since both exceed standard usury or TILA APR calculations.
  • →The SCRA's 6% cap requires retroactive recalculation and re-amortization from the service member's eligibility date, with forgiven interest subject to a choice between cash refund or principal application, not simple payment reduction.
  • →MAPR calculations under MLA include ancillary product fees, credit insurance, and debt cancellation charges that are excluded from TILA APR, requiring separate fee analysis and potential waiver strategies for covered borrowers.
  • →Systems of record must distinguish between pre-service and post-service charges (especially for open-end credit) and segregate multiple account balances to apply caps correctly across different obligation types.
  • →The 'reasonable bona fide fee' exception for credit cards under MLA requires ongoing market comparisons of like fees on like products with similar limits and benefits, demanding fact-intensive appraisal rather than fixed thresholds.

Guests

Taylor JessJeremy Searsing

Topics in this episode

Service Member Civil Relief Act (SCRA)Military Lending Act (MLA)SCRA 6% interest capMilitary Annual Percentage Rate (MAPR)MAPR 36% capRegulation Z (Reg Z)Truth in Lending Act (TILA)Bona fide fee exceptionCredit insuranceDebt cancellation contracts

Questions this episode answers

What counts as 'interest' under the SCRA 6% cap?

SCRA interest includes the contract rate plus service charges, renewal charges, fees, and any other charges except bona fide insurance on pre-service obligations. This broader definition differs from TILA APR and can push loans over the cap even if the stated rate is low, requiring analysis of all fees during product design.

How should lenders handle retroactive SCRA cap requests received months into service?

Lenders must recalculate and re-amortize the loan retroactively to the service member's eligibility date, forgive the excess interest above 6%, and offer the borrower a choice to either receive a cash refund or have the forgiven interest applied to principal - not simply reduce future payments.

What is the difference between MAPR and TILA APR for Military Lending Act compliance?

MAPR includes ancillary product fees, credit insurance premiums, and debt cancellation charges that are excluded from TILA APR; only credit cards can use a 'reasonable bona fide fee' exception determined by market comparison of similar fees on similar products.

Does the SCRA 6% cap apply to charges incurred after military service on an open-end account?

No, the SCRA cap only applies to pre-service obligations; charges incurred after active duty is called are not protected by the cap, so lenders must segment balances separately to implement the cap correctly.

What does the SCRA anti-acceleration provision require when excess interest must be forgiven?

The statute prohibits reducing future payments alone; instead, regulators require creditors to offer service members an affirmative choice between receiving a cash refund of forgiven interest or applying it to principal, preserving the service member's immediate financial benefit.

What our scoring noted

Our reviewer’s read on each dimension, with quotes from the episode.

Insight Density

12 / 20

The episode covers genuinely useful regulatory nuances - retroactive rate reduction, forgiven vs. deferred interest, open-end balance segmentation - that are non-obvious to most lenders. However, much of the content is explanatory of existing statutes rather than novel analysis, and a significant portion of runtime is consumed by intro/outro boilerplate and transitional filler.

amounts of interest above 6% are forgiven. They're not deferred. So the payment has to be reduced retroactively to account for reduced amounts of interest
I think there's a temptation to treat service member populations like geographies... And that approach can quickly break down

Originality

9 / 20

The core framing - these statutes as product design constraints rather than servicing checklists - is a modestly fresh angle, but the bulk of the episode is statutory recitation and legal education with no contrarian arguments or first-principles reasoning. The geography analogy is a useful heuristic but not deeply original thinking.

I think there's a temptation to treat service member populations like geographies. As to covered borrowers or SCRE covered service members, we will cap interest accordingly. And that approach can quickly break down
the MAPR calculation includes fees for credit-related ancillary products, credit insurance premiums, and fees for debt cancellation or debt suspension contracts

Guest Caliber

9 / 20

The guests are practicing regulatory attorneys at a major financial services firm and clearly know the material well, but they are internal colleagues at a law firm with no demonstrated seniority or practitioner experience operating these programs at scale as lenders or servicers. No credentials, tenure, or notable engagements are established.

And joining me again for this next episode are my colleagues, Taylor Jess and Jeremy Searsing

Specificity & Evidence

11 / 20

The episode offers genuine statutory precision - direct quotes from the SCRA, MAPR component itemization, FDIC and DOD rule references - but all examples are hypothetical constructions (e.g., '5% contract rate,' 'six months of payments') with no named lenders, enforcement actions, dollar figures from real cases, or outcomes data.

To quote the statute, interest includes service charges, renewal charges, fees, or any other charges except for bona fide insurance with respect to an obligation or liability
federal regulators have taken the position that applying the forgiven interest to the principal loan is only allowed after the customer is given the option to choose receiving the cash refund

Conversational Craft

10 / 20

The host demonstrates genuine domain knowledge - correctly noting that Reg Z voluntary-ancillary-product carve-outs don't apply to MAPR - which elevates the conversation above a pure lecture. However, questions are largely setup prompts ('Would you mind telling the audience about it?') with no productive pushback, no probing of edge cases the guests didn't volunteer, and no genuine disagreement.

There's specific provisions in Reg Z that say if the ancillary product is voluntary and discloses to such, it's not part of the finance charge. None of that matters for the purpose of the MAPR, does it?
Would you mind telling the audience about it?

Conversation analysis

Computed from the transcript - who did the talking, and the words that came up most.

Most-used words

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Episode notes

In this second installment of the special series on servicemember protections, Chris Willis is joined again by colleagues Taylor Gess and Jeremy Sairsingh to explore how the Military Lending Act (MLA) and the Servicemembers Civil Relief Act (SCRA) impose pricing restrictions that are far more complex than a standard state usury cap, and why that complexity must be accounted for at the product design stage. The discussion dives into the practical complexity of each statute's unique definition of interest. The team breaks down how the SCRA's 6% cap applies to pre-service obligations, which fees count toward that cap, and how the requirement to retroactively reduce and forgive, not defer, interest creates significant system-of-record challenges. They also explain how the MLA's Military Annual Percentage Rate (MAPR) differs from a traditional Truth in Lending Act/Regulation Z Annual Percentage Rate, what charges must be included in the MAPR calculation, and how the bona fide fee exception for CARD Act credit cards works in practice.

Full transcript

16 min

Transcribed and scored by The B2B Podcast Index.

Welcome to the Consumer Finance Podcast. I'm Chris Willis, the co-leader of Troutman Pepperlock's Consumer Financial Services Regulatory Practice. And today we're going to be talking about how the Military Lending Act and the Service Member Civil Relief Act can impose restrictions on product design even before a product is launched. But before we jump into that very interesting topic, let me remind you to visit and subscribe to our blogs, troutmanfinancialservices.

com, and consumerfinancialserviceslawmonitor.com. And be sure to give our other podcasts a listen. We have Payments Pros, Moving the Metal, The Crypto Exchange, and FCRA Focus.

Those are all available on all popular podcast platforms. And speaking of those platforms, if you like this podcast, let us know. Leave us a review on your platform of choice and tell us how we're doing. Now, as I said today, this is another one of our continuing series of episodes on service member protection statutes, principally the Service Member Civil Relief Act and the Military Lending Act.

And joining me again for this next episode are my colleagues, Taylor Jess and Jeremy Searsing. Taylor, Jeremy, thanks for coming back. I can't wait for this episode. Yeah, thanks for having us, Chris.

So a lot of people think of these two statutes as ones that they need to worry about in servicing once they encounter a protected borrower. So someone goes on to active duty, they need to be given their benefits under the SCRA, et cetera. But the point that you want to convey to our audience today is that really this is a set of statutes that imposes constraints on the design of a product because in order to allow it to comply later on down the road, you really need to take these statutes into consideration in design.

Can you talk about why that is the case? Sure. So both the MLA and SCRA have pricing restrictions, the 6% cap on pre-service obligations under the SCRA and 36% NAPR cap under the MLA. These operate as more than just legal rules.

I think they present important product design constraints that can be more complex than, say, state usury cap. By analogy, say you have a lender who is subject to state usury caps. A given state is capped, being interest at 16%. The lender says, well, for that geography, we will just cap interest at 16%.

I think there's a temptation to treat service member populations like geographies. As to covered borrowers or SCRE covered service members, we will cap interest accordingly. And that approach can quickly break down because these statutes require asking a number of follow-up questions. So sure, we have a 6% or 36% restriction, but product teams have to answer a whole bunch of other questions.

6% of what? 36% of what? To what balance to the supply, to which customers, at what point, in which billing cycles, which fees? What happens if the borrower goes into default?

Or what if the borrower, say, requests SERE benefits six months after going on active duty, and then the benefit has to be applied retroactively? What if there are multiple accounts? These are all run-of-the-mill situations that letters encounter when dealing with service members. And if you don't contemplate them from the get-go at the chronic design stage, you can be really setting yourself up for a lot of friction down the line.

Thanks, Jeremy. And a lot of this, in my perception, revolves around the fact that each of these statutes, the SCRA and the Military Lending Act, has their own definition of interest that differs from what we would classically consider interest under, say, a state usury statute or truth in lending or something like that. So let's start with the Service Member Civil Relief Act. What is SCRA interest for the purpose of applying the 6% cap that a person who goes on to active duty is entitled to?

So to explain the cap briefly, the SCRA requires reducing interest on pre-service obligations to 6% after receiving proper notice, as described in the statute, for the duration of military service. So pre means incurred before military service either by the service member or in some cases jointly by the service member and his or her spouse One of the questions here what is interest for purposes in that 6 cap It not just the contract rate. It's not the APR as might be defined under reg Z.

To quote the statute, interest includes service charges, renewal charges, fees, or any other charges except for bona fide insurance with respect to an obligation or liability. That's a really broad definition. And that phrase with respect to has been interpreted, especially broadly by federal regulators. So while fees are not automatically banned, they need to be analyzed as part of the SCRA interest cap when designing a product with respect to a covered obligation.

For example, say the contract rate on a loan is 5%. That still requires factor in the SCRA because a single fee could easily push you over that 5% limit up above the 6% cap. Another key question under the SCRE is when does that interest cap apply? Essentially, once the creditor determines that the cap applies, the statute requires reducing retroactively the rate on the customer's debts as of the date when they were called into military service, or importantly, in the case of a reservist, the date on which the service member received his or her orders.

The cap applies for the full duration of military service for most covert obligations, an important exception being mortgage-like obligations where it extends for one year past service. Critically, amounts of interest above 6% are forgiven. They're not deferred. So the payment has to be reduced retroactively to account for reduced amounts of interest.

Jeremy, thanks. And so I assume that means that when you're designing a product, you have to understand which fees or aspects of the product are covered interest and which ones aren't. And the system of record needs to be able to turn the ones off that need to be turned off in order to comply with the 6% cap, right? Correct.

What becomes essential as part of that analysis is looking at the underlying credit product and tuning those adjustments for the type of credit that you're dealing with. So for open and closed end credit, the court rules apply to both, but the practical treatment of how you implement the SRA cap differs depending on the product. So take closed end credit, an installment loan, for example. There, the creditor has to essentially recast the payment schedule from the start of the eligibility period.

So going back to the date on which coverage would start for the service members and then re-amortizing the loan, thereby reducing the payment. So the result should be that the payment amount comes down by the amount of the forgiven interest. It's basically as if the reduced rate had been the contract rate from the time the customer became eligible. Similarly with fees, if there are fees on the account, those need to be considered.

Do they need to be waived? Can this fee be charged without exceeding the 6% cap? Then, say you have a credit card or a line of credit product or some other open-end product. This raises other considerations that are less relevant in the closed-end world.

For example, I mentioned earlier that the SRA interest rate cap applies to pre-service obligations. So you might have a customer that incurred on a credit card prior to going to active duty. Charges incurred after going to active duty are not necessarily protected by the 6% cap. So being able to segment out those balances can be really important depending on the product.

When it comes to fees, annual fees, transaction fees, penalty fees, participation fees, figuring how fees post across billing cycles, these are all issues that go beyond just the advertised APR and the contract rate and the interplay between draw dates or balance dates, the fee date, the military service date, can all add complexity to implementing this cap. That does actually sound quite complex and very involved from the standpoint of programming a system of record to do what you just described, Jeremy.

But I don want to give the SCRA all the limelight in this episode Let talk about the Military Lending Act too And Taylor let me go to you for that As consumer credit lawyers we orient our lives around the definition of APR that's in the Truth and Lending Act. But the Military Lending Act has a different APR concept. Would you mind telling the audience about it? Sure, Chris.

So the Military Lending Act likes to keep us on our toes and shake us of that habit of thinking about everything in terms of TILA and Reg Z. So the MLA has a 36% limit on the military APR, MAPR, that applies if you are a covered borrower or dependent of a covered borrower at the time the closed-end credit is extended or the open-end account is established. So the MAPR is similar to an APR under TILA and Reg Z, but it's more encompassing because it includes charges that are not finance charges under Reg Z when you calculate the MAPR.

So that MAPR calculation includes fees for credit-related ancillary products, credit insurance premiums, and fees for debt cancellation or debt suspension contracts. And subject to a bona fide fee exception that gets a little tricky that we'll discuss more in a minute, finance charges under Reg Z, application fees, and participation fees also all count towards the MAPR calculation. Bottom line, Chris, is just because a charge does not count towards the TILA Reg Z APR, that doesn't mean that it's excluded from the MAPR.

That makes sense. And there's specific provisions in Reg Z that say if the ancillary product is voluntary and discloses to such, it's not part of the finance charge. None of that matters for the purpose of the MAPR, does it? That's right, Chris.

None of that matters. You hinted at a bona fide fee exception. What does that cover? So Chris, the bona fide fee exception, this applies if a card is a card act credit card under Reg Z, and it allows issuers to charge reasonable bona fide fees that can be excluded from the MAPR calculation.

I think this raises one of our favorite questions, Chris. What is reasonable? What does that mean, right? And so this determination is made by analyzing what fees are typically imposed in the market by other creditors for similar services or products.

The first key part of what is reasonable then, Chris, that means that it needs to be an apples to apples type of comparison. So we're comparing like fees to like fees. We'd not, for example, compare a cash advance fee to a foreign transaction fee. And I think something that's really interesting about this is when the DOD did the final rule on this bona fide fee exception, it explained that this reasonable standard was intended to be applied flexibly.

So they wanted creditors to be able to continue to offer a wide range of credit card products that carried reasonable costs that were tied to a specific product or service and that could have the ability to vary depending on what that fact intensive inquiry that requires a comparison we're looking at for the similar product. So a similar type of fee on a card with similar credit limits, a similar scope of benefits and similar target cardholders. And if that reasonable bona fide fee standard is not satisfied, then the creditor needs to include the total amount of that fee in the MAPR calculation.

Okay, that makes sense. And I guess to bring this back to the product design point, you know, just as I talked about with Jeremy a moment ago, it seems like when you're designing a product, you need to have an understanding of how these other non-finance charge items might count towards the MAPR and how to calculate it to stay below the 36% cap, right? Yeah, absolutely, Chris. So we live in a time of innovative product structure and we love to help clients be creative And thinking about this nuance of the MAPR and what fees are included and how that differs from the TILA APR they're calculating is really important.

And just on that point, one way that the DOD guidance has said that creditors can comply with the MAPR's 36% cap is by limiting or reducing or otherwise waiving fees for covered borrowers that the agreement otherwise provides for. Got it. Okay. So we talked about the MAPR We talked about SCRA interest but let throw another wrinkle into this conversation Jeremy and talk about the no acceleration provision of the Service Member Civil Relief Act Tell the audience about what that is and then what practical impacts it has when we go to try to comply with the statute.

I'll try to explain as an example here. So really common scenario is the creditor will get an SCRA request from a borrower maybe six months or longer into service. So the customer has been making payments and now the lender has to go back and re-amortize the loan so that the rate was 6% or less as of the eligibility date. So we've got a customer who made, say, six months of full payments.

What does the credit do with that interest? Then it has to be forgiven. And this gets to the provision you mentioned, Chris. The SCRA prohibits acceleration principle.

So interpreting this anti-acceleration principle of the restriction in the SCRA, it's important not to read no acceleration too narrowly. It doesn't just mean calling the whole loan due. Rather, the statute requires the periodic payment be reduced by the amount of the forgiven interest that will be allocable to that period. So creditors might ask, can I just apply that forgiven interest to the customer's outstanding balance?

It seems intuitive. That would be paying down customer's principal so that at the end of the loan term, they'll have less interest accrued. Do I really need to give the customer a cash refund? Here, federal regulators have taken the position that applying the forgiven interest to the principal loan is only allowed after the customer is given the option to choose receiving the cash refund.

Essentially, there has to be the ability, according to the FDIC, for example, of an affirmative election. And this ties back to the readiness purpose of the SRA that we've discussed on a prior podcast. The idea is the service member should have the benefit of that reduced rate from the outset and the extra cash in his or her pocket that might entail. having the rate reduced back to the eligibility date includes the option to receive a cash refi.

But the customer could always elect if given the choice to have the paid excess interest applying to principal, which would reduce the outstanding balance on the loan. Thanks a lot for the explanation, Jeremy, because I think that acceleration provision and the way that it works is not necessarily intuitive for all financial services companies. But nevertheless, that's the way the federal regulators have consistently interpreted it. So let me thank you for being on the episode today and Taylor, you as well, for talking about this important topic.

We do have one more episode coming in this special series about service member protection dealing with non-pricing protections. So please stay tuned for that. And thanks to our audience for listening today as well. As I reminded you at the beginning of the show, don't forget to visit and subscribe to our blogs, TroutmanFinancialServices.

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