
Hosted by Ryan Atkinson
★5.0on Apple Podcasts · 15 recent reviews
The Business Cloud interviews entrepreneurs to talk about starting their companies.
85 episodes · publishes weekly · latest 2023-06-07 · ~34 min/episode
Rank
#5960
Substance
33.0
/ 100
Breakdown
Scored 2026-07
Updated monthly
Across the index
#5960 of 6181
Substance
Top 96%
outscores 4% of the index
The Business Cloud ranks #5960 on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 33.0 out of 100, scored across 1 recent episode. It scores highest on specificity & evidence and insight density. A handful of concrete numbers appear (2004 founding, $6,000/month, $7.8B market cap, 25% churn, 50 phone calls), but they are all high-level historical facts with no sourcing, context, or operational detail behind them.
Averaged across 1 recently scored episode, with cited evidence.
The episode is roughly one minute of surface-level historical retelling with almost no actionable or non-obvious insight for a B2B operator. The one substantive data point - 25% annual restaurant churn - is mentioned but never explored.
“a quarter of all restaurants closed every single year. His churn rate was crazy high”
“Instead of advertising dollars, they're going to charge restaurants per order. The biggest light bulb moment in Grubhub history”
This is a well-worn founding myth retold with zero contrarian angle, first-principles analysis, or fresh framing. The ad-to-transaction-fee pivot is textbook business school case material.
“Here's how Grubhub changed their business model to grow from $6,000 a month to a market cap of $7.8 billion”
“The biggest light bulb moment in Grubhub history. And now that's what they do to this day.”
There is no guest whatsoever - the episode is a solo narration monologue about third-party figures (Mike Evans, Matt Maloney) who are not present to provide firsthand depth or nuance.
“So Mike Evans started Grubhub in 2004”
A handful of concrete numbers appear (2004 founding, $6,000/month, $7.8B market cap, 25% churn, 50 phone calls), but they are all high-level historical facts with no sourcing, context, or operational detail behind them.
“grow from $6,000 a month to a market cap of $7.8 billion”
“You got 50 phone calls from our special number”
The episode is a brief monologue with no interview, no questions, no follow-up, and no pushback of any kind; the format makes conversational craft entirely inapplicable.
“he sat down with his co-founder, Matt Maloney, and they asked, how can we double our revenue and really scale this thing?”
2023-06-07
First period on the Index - history builds from here.
1 scored on substance · 60 tracked in total.
Such interesting and engaging conversations, super fun and inspiring to listen to!!
- Rafitron2000
I really enjoyed this podcast and the guests that have been on it so far. Excited to keep listening!
- courtneyruthw
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