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Profitability Sequencing: How Agencies Maximize Margins, With Kristen Kelly

The Agency Profit Podcast · 2026-04-22 · 38 min

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Points of Interest 00:01 - 02:30 - The Cost of Poor Sequencing: Marcel and Kristen introduce the core issue - agencies often apply the right tactics in the wrong order, leading to wasted effort and stalled profitability. 02:30 - 05:00 - The Insight Formula: They explain that data alone is meaningless without context, introducing the key concept that insight comes from comparing expectations to reality. 05:00 - 06:30 - Start with a Business Model: Agencies should begin by building a model of their business to define what success should look like before measuring performance. 06:30 - 08:30 - The Danger of Starting with Data: Many firms overinvest in tracking actuals first, only to realize they lack the benchmarks needed to interpret the data effectively. 08:30 - 10:30 - Why Expectations Come First: Establishing expectations is faster, requires no new data, and is essential for designing meaningful feedback loops. 10:30 - 12:30 - Misguided Pricing and Benchmarking: Agencies often rely on market benchmarks instead of internal cost structures, leading to misaligned pricing and profitability issues. 12:30 - 14:30 - Framework vs.

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