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Tales of Leadership

Hosted by Joshua K. McMillion

Tales of Leadership is a veteran-owned podcast built to help you learn, grow, and tell your story - so you can lead with purpose, integrity, and inspired action. If you’re ready to expand your influence, sharpen your character, and become a more Purposeful Accountable Leader (PAL) , you’re in the right place.

121 episodes · publishes weekly · latest 2026-06-14 · ~69 min/episode

Rank

#2112

Substance

66.8

/ 100

Breakdown

Scored 2026-07
Updated monthly

Leadership rank

#226 of 1041

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Across the index

#2112 of 6182

Substance

Top 34%

outscores 66% of the index

Why it scores where it does

Tales of Leadership ranks #2112 on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 66.8 out of 100, scored across 5 recent episodes. It scores highest on guest caliber and insight density. Brad Smith is a legitimate operator: former Intuit CEO for 11 years, served as executive chairman for 6 years, now president of Marshall University. He has executed large-scale initiatives and has direct experience managing enterprise software, philanthropy, and institutional leadership. However, he is now primarily an academic administrator rather than an active industry practitioner, which slightly limits his current operational credibility for B2B operators in tech or business sectors.

The five-dimension breakdown

Averaged across 5 recently scored episodes, with cited evidence.

Insight Density

13.2 / 20

The episode contains several valuable insights about leadership, organizational culture, and AI integration in higher education, but substantial portions are devoted to lengthy personal narrative and regurgitation of well-known frameworks (Bloom's taxonomy, Benjamin Bloom's two-sigma opportunity, Moore's law). The AI discussion, while substantive, rehashes existing talking points about AI winters and historical context rather than offering novel operational insights specific to Smith's actual university challenges.

“leadership is the ability to inspire others to achieve shared objectives”

“the 30-30-30 rule. 30 minutes a week, I use one of these tools, whether it is Chat GPT or it's Anthropic and Quad or it's Gemini”

Originality

11.8 / 20

Smith recycles established leadership concepts (servant leadership, say-do ratio, grit) and relies heavily on famous quotes (Michelangelo, Mark Twain, Tom Landry) rather than deriving original frameworks. The Ascend West Virginia program is concrete and distinctive, but the broader AI narrative follows mainstream tech optimism. His advice to listeners about finding 'why' is a direct regurgitation of Simon Sinek's well-circulated framework, barely credited.

“Michelangelo once said that success is seldom limited by aiming too high and falling short”

“Mark Twain once said the two most important days in your life are the day you're born and the day you discover why”

Guest Caliber

16.2 / 20

Brad Smith is a legitimate operator: former Intuit CEO for 11 years, served as executive chairman for 6 years, now president of Marshall University. He has executed large-scale initiatives and has direct experience managing enterprise software, philanthropy, and institutional leadership. However, he is now primarily an academic administrator rather than an active industry practitioner, which slightly limits his current operational credibility for B2B operators in tech or business sectors.

“I had the privilege of serving as the CEO for 11 years, the chairman of the board for six, and then stepped down in 2022”

“He became the president of Marshall University in January of 2022 after a globally recognized career in leadership and philanthropy”

Specificity & Evidence

12.8 / 20

Smith provides concrete numbers on Ascend West Virginia (428 movers, 804 people total, 43% bought homes, $107k avg income, 97% retention), Marshall for All cohort sizes (100, then 200, aiming for 400), and tuition benchmarking claims. However, many broader claims lack specifics: AI productivity gains are cited as 'up to 30%' without source; the West Virginia Forward study is mentioned but not detailed; claims about West Virginia's historical contributions (space, aircraft, etc.) lack supporting data or citations.

“We launched it on October 12, 2021, which was the 50th anniversary of John Denver's release of Country Roads. And we launched it then, and here we have today 428 who have chosen to move to West Virginia with their family members. We have 804 people who live here. 11 babies have been born. 43% have bought homes. Their average income is $107,000”

“We received 58,600 applications from 108 countries in all 50 states”

Conversational Craft

12.8 / 20

The host (Josh McMillian) asks reasonable opening questions and demonstrates genuine interest, but rarely pushes back or challenges Smith's claims. Questions are mostly softball follow-ups that invite Smith to elaborate further rather than probe deeper or challenge inconsistencies. The conversation reads as a comfortable mutual appreciation session rather than an interrogation. Few moments of productive disagreement or hard questioning occur.

“Brad, welcome to the Tells of Leadership Podcast. I I am truly humbled to have you on the show, and thank you for making the time”

“I love that because their correlations uh are within the military too. The definition of leadership is to provide purpose direction and motivation or to inspire”

Standout episodes

  • #117: Brad Smith - How Purpose, Grit, and AI Are Rebuilding West Virginia

    2026-02-15

    77
  • #118: Joe Byerly - From Green Notebooks to Lasting Leadership Lessons

    2026-03-15

    76
  • #119: David Brown - A SEAL’s Journey Against the Odds - Grit, Leadership, and Triumph

    2026-04-13

    74

Rank over time

First period on the Index - history builds from here.

Episodes

9 scored on substance · 60 tracked in total.

  • #121: Jason Sharp - What if Suffering is Your Path to Growth

    2026-06-14 · 1h 32m

    52 / 100
  • # 120: Joshua McMillion - Be All In

    2026-05-31 · 31 min

    55 / 100
  • #119: David Brown - A SEAL’s Journey Against the Odds - Grit, Leadership, and Triumph

    2026-04-13 · 1h 26m

    74 / 100
  • #118: Joe Byerly - From Green Notebooks to Lasting Leadership Lessons

    2026-03-15 · 1h 4m

    76 / 100
  • #117: Brad Smith - How Purpose, Grit, and AI Are Rebuilding West Virginia

    2026-02-15 · 1h 10m

    77 / 100
  • #116: Mike Durnin - How Servant Leadership Turns Tragedy Into Purpose

    2026-01-15 · 1h 12m

    77 / 100
  • #115: Ben Eden - From HR Executive to Purpose-Driven Coach

    2025-12-15 · 1h 17m

    75 / 100
  • #114 Robert Yarnall - From Battlefield Lessons to Everyday Leadership

    2025-11-15 · 1h 23m

    76 / 100
  • #113 Isaac Lee - From Cockpit to Corporate: A Marine's Leadership Journey

    2025-10-13 · 1h 18m

    78 / 100

Frequently asked

What is Tales of Leadership's substance score?
Tales of Leadership scores 66.8 out of 100 for substance and ranks #2112 on The B2B Podcast Index. That puts it ahead of 66% of the B2B podcasts we rank and #226 of 1041 in Leadership. The score reflects insight density, originality, guest caliber, specificity and conversational craft across recent episodes - not downloads.
Is Tales of Leadership worth listening to?
Yes - Tales of Leadership outscores 66% of the B2B leadership podcasts and shows we rank on substance, so a leadership operator is likely to come away with something useful.
Who hosts Tales of Leadership?
Tales of Leadership is hosted by Joshua K. McMillion.
How often does Tales of Leadership publish?
Tales of Leadership publishes weekly, has 121 episodes, released its most recent episode on 2026-06-14.
Which Tales of Leadership episode should I start with?
Our highest-scoring recent episode is "#117: Brad Smith - How Purpose, Grit, and AI Are Rebuilding West Virginia" (77/100) - a good place to start.

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Guests who've appeared

Jason SharpDavid Brown (Brownie)Joe ByerlyBrad SmithMike DurninBen EdenRobert YarnallIsaac Lee

Topics this show covers

The themes that come up most across this show's episodes.

Servant leadership · 4Purpose-driven leadershipSharp Leadership consulting firmEyes Wide Open: Learning to Suffer (book)Columbia-class submarine programLeonardo DRSKansas Army National Guardeffort-versus-outcomes leadership philosophyexecutive function skillsshared suffering and accountabilitychildhood trauma and resiliencePareto Principle (80/20 rule)Toxic leadership cultureGeneral George S. Patton execution philosophySAS motto ("He who dares wins")Experiential avoidance (Rob Archer psychology)Cold water immersionSledgehammer mindset

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