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Relationships at Work

Hosted by Russel Lolacher

Relationships at Work - the leadership podcast helping you build workplace connection, improve culture, and avoid blind spots . A relatable and honest show on leadership, organizational culture and soft skills, focusing on improving employee engagement and company culture to inspire people to apply, stay and thrive.

391 episodes · publishes weekly · latest 2026-06-29 · ~33 min/episode

Rank

#2950

Substance

62.0

/ 100

Breakdown

Scored 2026-07
Updated monthly

Leadership rank

#343 of 1041

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Across the index

#2950 of 6183

Substance

Top 48%

outscores 52% of the index

Why it scores where it does

Relationships at Work ranks #2950 on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 62.0 out of 100, scored across 1 recent episode. It scores highest on guest caliber and insight density. Bartlow is a legitimate 30-year HR practitioner who has held CPO roles, advised 100+ companies, and authored a relevant book - real practitioner credibility. However, he is now primarily a consultant and educator selling a leadership accelerator program, which softens his operator-at-scale credentials, and the transcript reveals no landmark companies or transformational outcomes to anchor his experience.

The five-dimension breakdown

Averaged across 1 recently scored episode, with cited evidence.

Insight Density

13.0 / 20

There are a handful of useful, moderately non-obvious observations - particularly around 'fake goals,' HR's shadow list, and the practical tactic of reading public S-1s/8-Ks to infer company priorities - but the episode is padded with long personal anecdotes, meandering analogies (BART trains, whips, water drops), and generic advice that any competent HR professional already knows. Insight-per-minute is low.

“so many, uh, company-level goals and priorities are fake, are just giant categories that don't actually help people make choices. If your company-level goals are increase revenue, reduce cost, and be a great place to work, raise your hand if you've seen that 1,000 times. fake.”

“we are often working at odds with our own organization because we are des- distracting and detracting from those more, most important things if we don't have our mindset focused on, 'My job exists to help this organization meet its goals.'”

Originality

11.0 / 20

The 'fake goals' critique and the framing of HR as an internal management consultant working from a 'shadow list' are modestly contrarian, but the bulk of the episode recycles well-worn HR leadership tropes - clarity matters, align work to goals, leader vs. manager distinction - without offering a genuinely fresh or first-principles argument.

“if you're functioning like a union steward inside your org, you will never have a true seat at the table”

“don't let perfect be the enemy of better”

Guest Caliber

15.0 / 20

Bartlow is a legitimate 30-year HR practitioner who has held CPO roles, advised 100+ companies, and authored a relevant book - real practitioner credibility. However, he is now primarily a consultant and educator selling a leadership accelerator program, which softens his operator-at-scale credentials, and the transcript reveals no landmark companies or transformational outcomes to anchor his experience.

“I've found internal communications to be a pretty meaningful part of my role as a chief people officer and senior HR leader that was never really recognized”

“I do a lot of work in the startup arena, and there are a lot of 20-somethings that may have never graduated college, may have never had a job before, um, who find themselves as CEO founders of organizations with, you know, 1,000 people or several hundred people”

Specificity & Evidence

11.0 / 20

The episode is almost entirely hypothetical - examples like 'increase revenue 20%' or 'launch the EMEA market' are generic constructs, not real case studies. The most concrete specifics are a free one-pager download and a passing mention of S-1s and 8-Ks; no named companies, no client metrics, and no outcomes from the 100+ organizations advised are cited.

“I have a, I have a little one-pager that I've drawn up and a free download on, on the People Leader Accelerator we- website that it is built kinda like an org chart with one box at the top and then three below it and then nine below that”

“if you're a big public company, you have, uh, public filings. You can get an S1, you can get the 8-Ks”

Conversational Craft

12.0 / 20

The host asks a few genuinely useful second-level questions ('what's the damage of not being clear?', 'where is HR's role?') and does push toward practicality, but spends significant airtime sharing his own personal stories, rarely challenges the guest's claims, and the opening 10+ minutes of mutual performance-review anecdotes add no value for a B2B operator audience.

“From your own experience working with as many companies as you have, what's the damage of not being clear?”

“I remember this executive who would go, 'I, I want you to do this project. You know, kind of this, this, this, and this. But you know what? Do your own thing. Figure it out.'”

Standout episodes

  • How Clarity Empowers Employees

    2026-06-29

    62

Rank over time

First period on the Index - history builds from here.

Episodes

1 scored on substance · 60 tracked in total.

  • How Clarity Empowers Employees

    2026-06-29 · 50 min

    62 / 100

Frequently asked

What is Relationships at Work's substance score?
Relationships at Work scores 62.0 out of 100 for substance and ranks #2950 on The B2B Podcast Index. That puts it ahead of 52% of the B2B podcasts we rank and #343 of 1041 in Leadership. The score reflects insight density, originality, guest caliber, specificity and conversational craft across recent episodes - not downloads.
Is Relationships at Work worth listening to?
Yes - Relationships at Work outscores 52% of the B2B leadership podcasts and shows we rank on substance, so a leadership operator is likely to come away with something useful.
Who hosts Relationships at Work?
Relationships at Work is hosted by Russel Lolacher.
How often does Relationships at Work publish?
Relationships at Work publishes weekly, has 391 episodes, released its most recent episode on 2026-06-29.
Which Relationships at Work episode should I start with?
Our highest-scoring recent episode is "How Clarity Empowers Employees" (62/100) - a good place to start.

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