
Real Business Owners · 2026-06-09 · 1h 2m
If you are ready to level up personally and professionally, go to joinrbo.com Most entrepreneurs think their biggest problem is their business - but it’s not. In Episode 367 of The Real Business Owners Podcast , Trevor Cowley sits down with entrepreneur Rick Trimmer to break down one of the most overlooked reasons businesses stall, struggle, and fail: the owner stops evolving. Through real stories from their mastermind, practical business examples, and lessons from scaling companies, they explain why growth isn’t just about better marketing, better employees, or better systems - it’s about becoming a better leader. If your business feels stuck, this episode will force you to stop looking outward and start looking inward. Because in most cases, the ceiling of the business is the ceiling of the leader.