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Ep:50 What I wish I knew at the start of my coaching business journey

Online Business Like a Boss · 2025-02-26 · 9 min

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Key moments - from our scoring

Substance score

20 / 100

Five dimensions, 20 points each

Insight Density5 / 20
Originality4 / 20
Guest Caliber3 / 20
Specificity & Evidence5 / 20
Conversational Craft3 / 20

Kristin Morris discusses the critical mistakes she made when launching her coaching business, including spending thousands on high-end coaching programs while remaining stuck in perfectionism and shiny object syndrome. She invested in multiple coaching containers expecting transformation but emerged no closer to building a sustainable business because the high financial commitment created pressure to develop a "perfect" offer rather than testing ideas. This realization led her to create the Momentum membership - a £27-per-month program (scaling to £97) designed specifically for new coaches who need to master foundational concepts: ideal client definition, audience building, offer alignment, beta launches, objection handling, and marketing strategy. The six-month membership targets the exact phase when coaches lack an audience, haven't validated their offer, and need to reach consistent sales readiness without the paralysis of expensive coaching investments. Morris argues that premium coaching works best after you've tested your core offer and proven client demand, not before.

Key takeaways

  • →Test your core offer with beta clients at a discounted rate before investing in expensive coaching programs to avoid perfectionism paralysis and wasted container time.
  • →High coaching investment creates pressure to develop a perfect offer immediately rather than iterate and learn, making low-cost membership models better for foundational business building.
  • →New coaches should master ideal client definition, audience building, content testing, and offer validation before working with premium coaches who help with refinement and scaling.
  • →The Momentum membership deliberately prices low to remove fear around offer testing and reduce the pressure to immediately recoup coaching costs through sales.
  • →Spending six months in a coaching program without clarity on ideal client, audience, or proven offer is wheel-spinning that delays the real work of building a sustainable business.

Topics in this episode

objection handlingSales PsychologyShiny object syndromeBeta launchesMomentum membershipideal customer avataroffer alignmentperfectionism paralysistransformation statementcoaching business foundations

Questions this episode answers

What's the biggest mistake Kristin Morris made when starting her coaching business?

She invested thousands in high-end coaching programs while struggling with perfectionism paralysis - the expensive investment made her feel the offer had to be perfect immediately, so she kept changing ideas and never actually launched anything.

Why did Kristin create the Momentum membership instead of offering only premium group coaching?

She realized new coaches need low-cost access to foundational concepts (ideal client, audience building, offer alignment, beta launches) without the pressure of expensive investments that delay testing and iterate instead of launching.

What should new coaches do before hiring a premium business coach?

Test your core offer with beta clients, build some audience, get testimonials and case studies, prove there's demand for your transformation, and only then invest in premium coaching for refinement and scaling.

How long does Kristin say it takes to reach consistent sales readiness as a new coach without an audience?

At least six months to reach the stage where you're ready to start making consistent sales launches, which is why the Momentum membership is structured as a six-month program.

What pricing strategy did Kristin use for Momentum and why?

She priced it at £27 per month (scaling to £97) specifically to remove fear around offer testing and reduce pressure to immediately generate revenue from clients to recoup coaching costs.

What our scoring noted

Our reviewer’s read on each dimension, with quotes from the episode.

Insight Density

5 / 20

The episode's one substantive claim - don't buy expensive coaching before validating your offer - is buried under lengthy product promotion and repetitive explanation. Most of the runtime is spent describing the host's membership features rather than delivering usable insight.

all through this six month container I was kind of wheel spinning and I didn't put anything out. I didn't really start to build an audience and I didn't get really any closer to my goal
what I wish I knew at the start of my coaching business is that you really need to have a clear picture of your ideal client, the offer that you want, and you want to test the offer with your ideal client, with your audience before you consider working with a coach

Originality

4 / 20

The advice - beta test before investing, get testimonials, validate your offer first - is textbook early-stage coaching industry counsel that circulates everywhere. There is no contrarian framing, no first-principles reasoning, and no perspective a listener couldn't find in any generic business-coaching blog post.

bring clients in, work with clients in a beta offer at a discounted rate, figure out how to really make your program or your um, course, whatever it is you're creating the best that it can be, get those all important testimonials and case study clients under your belt
it gave me absolutely perfection paralysis

Guest Caliber

3 / 20

This is a solo episode with no guest; the host presents herself as an early-stage coach who has not yet demonstrated scale, citing her own unresolved wheel-spinning as the primary credential. There is no evidence of results achieved at any meaningful level.

I hired a coach to work with in a six month group coaching program. And there was weekly calls in the container and every week I would show up to the call with a different ideal client idea
I am, um, currently putting together my membership called the Momentum membership

Specificity & Evidence

5 / 20

The only concrete figures are her own product price points (£27/month, projected £97/month), which serve as advertising rather than evidence. No named clients, external companies, conversion rates, cohort sizes, or verifiable outcomes are provided.

it's £27 per month. But I know that probably by the end of next year it's going to be about 97 pounds per month
It's a full six month program that I've dropped into a 27 pound per month membership

Conversational Craft

3 / 20

The episode is an uninterrupted solo monologue with no interviewer, no probing questions, and no mechanism for pushback or follow-up. The narrative is structurally rambling and frequently circles back to promote the host's own membership product rather than developing ideas.

So thank you very much for listening and um, tune in next week. Don't forget to subscribe so that you get notified for the next podcast episodes. So they're Mondays at 9am thanks and I'll see you next week.
I mean it was absolute shiny object syndrome on steroids. And um, all through this six month container I was kind of wheel spinning

Conversation analysis

Computed from the transcript - who did the talking, and the words that came up most.

Share of words spoken

  • Speaker B93%
  • Speaker A7%

Most-used words

coaching16offer16program15start10ideal9coach7help6clients6container6audience6starting5membership5client5online4podcast4different4

Episode notes

In this episode, I am sharing something that I wish I had known at the start of my coaching business. In the early stages of your business, getting to know your ideal client and testing your offer are the most important activities you need to do in your business. From my experiences at the start of my business, I believe there is a right time to invest in working with a coach and there is definitely a wrong time. Making an investment in coaching before you are ready changes the energetics of what you are putting out to your audience and the dynamic of your coaching relationship. I am sharing my experiences here and discussing my new membership, Momentum, which is designed to help put all those important business foundations in place. You can find out more information on joining the membership here: Momentum . You can

Full transcript

9 min

Transcribed and scored by The B2B Podcast Index.

Speaker A: Welcome to the online business Like a Boss podcast. I'm your host, Kristin Morris, and in this show I want to bring you conversations with experts, entrepreneurs and thought leaders who can help inspire, motivate and give you the knowledge to grow your online business. I know when you're just starting out on your journey as an entrepreneur, the learning curve can feel, feel huge. I want this podcast to help shorten that timeline for you by giving you all the tools, knowledge and advice that you need to grow a, uh, wildly successful online business. Let's get started.

Speaker B: Welcome to the online business Like a Boss podcast. And in this episode I want to talk to you about some things that I wish that I knew when I was starting my coaching business. Um, and if you're new in the coaching and expert space, then I do recommend having a listen. It might save you a lot of money and time and, uh, effort in the long run. So I am, um, currently putting together my membership called the Momentum membership. And Momentum is designed for coaches who are new, who are building their business and maybe haven't got their first offer out yet. And it helps lay all the foundations. So getting to know your ideal clients, getting into offer alignment, having your first beta launch to sell your program, and then working out your marketing strategy and doing a bit of sales psychology. Objection. Handling. And then finally how to grow your business. So It's a full six month program that I've dropped into a 27 pound per month membership. And when I was initially building out this program, the idea was that it was going to be a six month container for new coaches to come in and work with me in a group coaching program. And the reason why it was six months is because I recognize that when you're at the start of your business and you don't have an audience, um, and you haven't really decided who your ideal client is or have a proven offer to work with that it can take at least six months to get to the stage where you're ready to start making consistent sales and launching and talking about doing all the fun and clever things that you can do with your business later on. Uh, but then as I was building out the program, I started to think about what it was like for me at the start of my coaching business. So when I knew that I was ready to go all in on my coaching business and this was going to be the thing that I laid my hat on, I hired a coach to work with in a six month group coaching program. And there was weekly calls in the container and every week I would show up to the call with a different ideal client idea or some new offer idea. I mean it was absolute shiny object syndrome on steroids. And um, all through this six month container I was kind of wheel spinning and I didn't put anything out. I didn't really start to build an audience and I didn't get really any closer to my goal of having a sustainable coaching business at the end of it, which was so disappointing. And then I thought, uh, I would maybe just was not working with the right coach. So I went and I signed up for another coaching program maybe a year later. And I was going through that coaching program and the same sort of thing. And I think looking back on it now, I think it was because the investment felt like such a huge deal to me being at the beginning of the coaching business that it gave me absolutely perfection paralysis. Like I knew that the offer that I put out, uh, off the back of working with these coaches had to be like the thing, the offer of my life, of my business, it was, had to be the thing that everyone was going to go, oh my God, that's amazing. And so I think that's where it just kept coming back to the well with different ideas and different things to put in it or different things to take out and who was going to be, I was going to be working with in the transformation and on and on and on and on and on. And that really got me thinking about when I was launching my own group coaching program, is that really the best solution for a new coach or beginner? And so that is what made me decide to just put it all into a £27 per month membership. Because if someone's at the start of their business and they're not really sure and they really need to get a grasp of all these foundational principles and concepts, you know, like refining the ideal customer avatar, starting to build an audience, starting to put content out and seeing what kind of content resonates with their ideal client, starting to get into offer alignment and to define what kind of offer they're going to put out for their ideal clients, what's the transformation statement, the promise that their offer is making and how they're communicating that effectively in their audience. And then finally doing a beta launch, so launching the program, putting a shot across the bow and seeing if anybody is interested in the program before they go and create the whole thing. Um, so these are like really key foundational steps that, that you need to take in your business. And if you're in a coaching program for 12 weeks or even for six months, you might spend the whole container working these things out and get to the end and be no closer to your goal than you were at the start. And so I thought why not make it so that it's a low cost investment, they can come in, they can learn what they need to do. But then you take away that fear of like, I don't feel like I can test my offer because the offer that I put out has to be the thing that's going to help me recoup the investment that I've made in this coach. And you know, I, I need to start making money now because I've just invested all this money. So having like a, a low cost membership, um, right now at the time of recording it's £27 per month. But I know that probably by the end of next year it's going to be about 97 pounds per month just because it is a high value program. But even so, even at 97 pounds per month, um, as opposed to working with someone uh, for thousands of pounds, when you're at the start of your business, it's just so much less pressure. And that's what really felt aligned to me. So what I wish I knew at the start of my coaching business is that you really need to have a clear picture of your ideal client, the offer that you want, and you want to test the offer with your ideal client, with your audience before you consider working with a coach. Because a coach or a uh, strategist or mentor, they can help you put all the pieces together to, you know, maybe refine the offer, make it better, refine your messaging, refine your sales process or help you build a funnel, um, um, help you get more leads into your business. But until you're kind of solid on that transformation and that promise and you know that what you're offering is going to be needed and wanted within your audience and your ideal clients, um, then you could potentially be in a position where you know you're wasting essentially, um, that coaching container trying to figure out these really basic things. So that would be my advice if you are a new beginner coaching expert coming into this space, is to get yourself in a position where you can learn the basics and you can start testing your offer, bring clients in, work with clients in a beta offer at a discounted rate, figure out how to really make your program or your um, course, whatever it is you're creating the best that it can be, get those all important testimonials and case study clients under your belt and then look at working with a coach in a higher level coaching container or program. So thank you very much for listening and um, tune in next week. Don't forget to subscribe so that you get notified for the next podcast episodes. So they're Mondays at 9am thanks and I'll see you next week.

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