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Marketing With Empathy®

Hosted by Sarah Panus

Marketing With Empathy® helps brands and nonprofits connect with families - and the moms who influence most household purchases. Host Sarah Panus shares ideas to get your products, services, or mission into the homes of families who need them most.

164 episodes · publishes fortnightly · latest 2026-02-20 · ~25 min/episode

Rank

#3976

Substance

56.0

/ 100

Breakdown

Scored 2026-07
Updated monthly

Marketing rank

#583 of 991

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Across the index

#3976 of 6186

Substance

Top 64%

outscores 36% of the index

Why it scores where it does

Marketing With Empathy® ranks #3976 on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 56.0 out of 100, scored across 1 recent episode. It scores highest on specificity & evidence and insight density. The episode cites several real data points (94% vs. 76% meal-prep gender gap, 51% maternal loneliness from the Surgeon General's report, $9 - $12 meal-kit cost) and references named frameworks and researchers (Eve Rodsky, Seth Kaplan, Elixir Studies). However, none of the data is original to the guest, pilot results are absent, and the product details remain vague and aspirational.

The five-dimension breakdown

Averaged across 1 recently scored episode, with cited evidence.

Insight Density

12.0 / 20

The episode contains a handful of genuinely useful observations (the conception-planning-execution breakdown of dinner labor, the trust erosion barrier as a product design constraint, the unexpected picky-eater finding), but these are spread thin across significant narrative padding, product-pitch segments, and generic marketing advice like 'start with the human need.' The ratio of novel insight to filler is modest.

“94% of moms report repairing meals for their kids compared to 76% of dads”

“most products really only solve for one part. You have the meal kits, like sure, you're helping with conception and planning, but you're doing all the cooking and cleaning still. And you're paying a premium at nine to $12 a meal”

Originality

11.0 / 20

The Eve Rodsky framework (conception-planning-execution) is borrowed and already widely circulated in the mental-load discourse; the batch-cook-and-swap concept is not new. The trust-network anchoring approach (matching via existing community affiliations rather than strangers) is the most distinctive original idea, but even that is reasonably intuitive. The picky-eater side-effect is a genuinely fresh observation.

“We're not matching random people from opposite ends of town. Instead, we're anchoring Potluck in place based trust networks”

“Americans culturally were hungry for both connection and convenience, but you rarely find both of them in the same product”

Guest Caliber

10.0 / 20

Shannon Amspacher is a first-time founder with a product still in MVP/waitlist stage - no revenue, no proven scale, no demonstrated operator track record. Her thinking is earnest and research-informed, but she has not 'done the thing at scale' and the conversation is largely a product pitch and personal narrative rather than practitioner-level expertise.

“as we're building our MVP we do have a wait list so I would encourage folks to get on the wait list first”

“I started looking for connection in apps like Peanut where there's local moms that you can meet up and start friendships with”

Specificity & Evidence

13.0 / 20

The episode cites several real data points (94% vs. 76% meal-prep gender gap, 51% maternal loneliness from the Surgeon General's report, $9 - $12 meal-kit cost) and references named frameworks and researchers (Eve Rodsky, Seth Kaplan, Elixir Studies). However, none of the data is original to the guest, pilot results are absent, and the product details remain vague and aspirational.

“51% of mothers with young children feel serious loneliness”

“You have the meal kits, like sure, you're helping with conception and planning, but you're doing all the cooking and cleaning still. And you're paying a premium at nine to $12 a meal”

Conversational Craft

10.0 / 20

The host asks a few reasonable structural questions (e.g., asking Shannon to unpack the invisible-load framing) but never pushes back on any claim, never probes business viability, and repeatedly praises the idea mid-conversation. The interview reads as a friendly promotional showcase rather than a probing dialogue.

“And talk more about your decision to lead with that invisible load versus just talking about a faster way to cook with potluck”

“I think your idea with this company is so smart because it makes a big problem feel simple”

Standout episodes

  • 163. How Startup Potluck Reimagines Dinner for Moms - Shannon Amspacher

    2026-02-20

    56

Rank over time

First period on the Index - history builds from here.

Episodes

1 scored on substance · 60 tracked in total.

  • 163. How Startup Potluck Reimagines Dinner for Moms - Shannon Amspacher

    2026-02-20 · 25 min

    56 / 100

Frequently asked

What is Marketing With Empathy®'s substance score?
Marketing With Empathy® scores 56.0 out of 100 for substance and ranks #3976 on The B2B Podcast Index. That puts it ahead of 36% of the B2B podcasts we rank and #583 of 991 in Marketing. The score reflects insight density, originality, guest caliber, specificity and conversational craft across recent episodes - not downloads.
Is Marketing With Empathy® worth listening to?
Marketing With Empathy® is ranked on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 56.0/100. See the five-dimension breakdown above to judge whether it fits what you're after.
Who hosts Marketing With Empathy®?
Marketing With Empathy® is hosted by Sarah Panus.
How often does Marketing With Empathy® publish?
Marketing With Empathy® publishes fortnightly, has 164 episodes, released its most recent episode on 2026-02-20.
Which Marketing With Empathy® episode should I start with?
Our highest-scoring recent episode is "163. How Startup Potluck Reimagines Dinner for Moms - Shannon Amspacher" (56/100) - a good place to start.

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Guests who've appeared

Shannon Amspacher

Topics this show covers

The themes that come up most across this show's episodes.

Potluck (community meal-swapping platform)Eve Rodsky's conception-planning-execution frameworkMental load and invisible labor in caregivingElixir Science of Modern Motherhood StudiesSociety of Working MomsSeth Kaplan (social fabric repair framework)Batch cooking and meal swapsTrust networks and community institutionsFive phases of motherhood lifecycleCare economy and burnout

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