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305 | Mastering AI Automation: Custom GPTs to Agents with Isar Meitis

Leveraging AI · 2026-06-30 · 36 min

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Key moments - from our scoring

Substance score

32 / 100

Five dimensions, 20 points each

Insight Density9 / 20
Originality6 / 20
Guest Caliber5 / 20
Specificity & Evidence8 / 20
Conversational Craft4 / 20

This episode explores the hierarchy of AI automation approaches, moving from basic chat interactions to increasingly sophisticated reusable systems. Meitis walks through three main options: custom GPTs (OpenAI's original tool, now de-emphasized in the interface), projects (Anthropic's Claude projects and OpenAI's equivalent), and skills (the newest, most portable approach). While rumors swirl about OpenAI potentially discontinuing custom GPTs - they've buried the feature in ChatGPT's menu - the underlying DNA of all three approaches is identical: instructions plus context (knowledge files and supporting information). Meitis demonstrates how he evolved from using a custom GPT for proposal generation to a full agent pipeline that automates proposal writing, CRM updates, Google Drive syncing, draft emails, and customer research. He emphasizes that regardless of platform, AI functions like an intern requiring detailed standard operating procedures (SOPs) and comprehensive reference materials (the 'binder') to execute consistently. The key insight: if your custom GPTs are at risk, converting them to projects or skills involves minimal effort due to architectural similarity.

Key takeaways

  • →Custom GPTs, projects (Claude, OpenAI, Gemini), and skills share identical DNA: instructions plus context, making migration between platforms straightforward if OpenAI discontinues custom GPTs.
  • →AI automation requires detailed SOPs (standard operating procedures) in your instructions and comprehensive knowledge files as reference material - treating AI like an intern who needs explicit guidance, not assumed knowledge.
  • →Skills offer portability across platforms (ChatGPT in Excel, PowerPoint, etc.) making them preferable to projects for long-term automation strategies, though projects offer better formatting and branding options.
  • →You can evolve from simple custom GPTs to sophisticated agentic pipelines that automate full workflows end-to-end, as demonstrated by Meitis's proposal system that updates CRM, Google Drive, email drafts, and conducts background research automatically.
  • →Projects in Claude, ChatGPT, and Gemini maintain two levels of memory - general account-level memory and project-specific memory - allowing AI to retain context about specific clients or work across multiple conversations in isolated bubbles.

In this episode

  1. 1Introduction to Custom GPTs and AI Automation Levels
  2. 2Evolution from Custom GPTs to Projects to Skills and Agents
  3. 3Real-World Example: Proposal Writing Pipeline Evolution
  4. 4How Custom GPTs and Projects Work: Building Blocks and DNA
  5. 5Instructions, Context, and Memory Across AI Platforms
  6. 6Managing AI as an Intern: The Importance of Clear Instructions and Knowledge Files

Mentioned

OpenAIChatGPTClaudeAnthropicGeminiGoogleMultiplyIsar MeitisSpotifyYouTube

Topics in this episode

AI agentsClaude ProjectsCustom GPTsStandard Operating Procedures (SOPs)AI skillsOpenAI ProjectsGemini GemsKnowledge FilesProposal GenerationAutomated CRM Integration

Questions this episode answers

Are OpenAI custom GPTs actually going away?

OpenAI hasn't made official announcements, but the feature has become harder to access - moved to a 'More' menu in ChatGPT rather than the main left sidebar - suggesting it's no longer a priority for the company, though no confirmed discontinuation date exists.

What's the difference between a skill and an agent?

A skill handles one simple specific task repeatedly, while an agent handles complete end-to-end workflows with access to more tools and systems, making agents more sophisticated; however, people often use the terms interchangeably incorrectly.

Can I convert my custom GPTs to projects or skills if OpenAI discontinues them?

Yes, conversion is straightforward because custom GPTs, projects, and skills all use the same architecture: instructions plus context files, so migrating your setup requires minimal effort.

What information should I include as knowledge files in a custom GPT or project?

Include templates, winning examples, service/product descriptions, testimonials, website links, and brand guidelines - essentially everything the AI needs as reference material to consistently execute your standard operating procedure.

How do I access custom GPTs in ChatGPT now if they're not in the left menu?

Click the 'More' option (three dots) in the left sidebar menu, then select 'GPTs' to see all your custom GPTs and create new ones.

What our scoring noted

Our reviewer’s read on each dimension, with quotes from the episode.

Insight Density

9 / 20

There are a handful of genuinely useful operational specifics - notably the code-reuse tip to avoid token cost and inconsistency, and the practical distinction between project memory vs. custom GPT statelessness - but the episode is heavily padded with navigation instructions, repeated restatements of the same taxonomy, and two course-promotion interludes that eat significant runtime. The ratio of novel ideas to filler is low.

one in every X number of times, let's say one in twenty, it will not write the code perfectly and you're gonna get the wrong outcome
you can take that snippet of code and tell AI inside the instructions to use that code for that step in the process. This way, it just uses the code that is there

Originality

6 / 20

The episode is a descriptive product tour of OpenAI and Anthropic features rather than original analysis. The 'AI as intern' framing is one of the most recycled analogies in AI content, and the hierarchy of chat → custom GPT → project → skill → agent is a straightforward taxonomy with no contrarian or first-principles angle.

AI is an intern. It's not just an intern, it is the best intern on the planet
The instructions you're gonna give it, regardless whether you give them in a custom GPT or a project or a skill, et cetera, are the SOP, the standard operating procedure

Guest Caliber

5 / 20

This is a solo monologue; there is no guest. The host is a small-scale AI trainer and educator running his own professional-services business, and his examples come from writing proposals for that business - not from operating AI automation at any significant enterprise scale.

I teach AI courses. I either teach them online to people who can join or do private workshops for companies
I use what some of you see on the screen, which is a very sophisticated proposal pipeline agent

Specificity & Evidence

8 / 20

There are some concrete data points - the Assistants API sunset date, personal usage numbers, pricing tiers, and report-type lists - but many outcome claims ('absolutely magical things,' 'winning a lot of business') are unverifiable and the 'real client' finance example is described without any identifying detail, metrics, or time savings.

the Assistants API, has been sunset, announced to be sunset earlier this year... it's gonna be completely stopped by August of this year
I probably have over 50 custom GPTs that I created and used, and I created code in two of them

Conversational Craft

4 / 20

This is an uninterrupted solo monologue with no interviewer, no challenging questions, and no pushback on any claim. Two extended course-promotion segments break the content flow mid-episode, and the host explicitly acknowledges the audio experience is degraded relative to the video version, meaning the format itself is mismatched for a significant portion of the audience.

if you wanna do that before September, this would be a great time to click on the link in the show notes and jump straight there
those of you who are just listening and not watching this, I will explain everything that is on the screen

Conversation analysis

Computed from the transcript - who did the talking, and the words that came up most.

Most-used words

custom61project51skills40instructions35gpts32create32skill30proposal29chatgpt24projects22claude20inside20different19process18show15conversation15

Episode notes

Are your Custom GPTs living on borrowed time - or is this the perfect opportunity to build something even better? Rumors that OpenAI may phase out Custom GPTs have sparked plenty of debate. But instead of focusing on what might disappear, this episode explores what comes next - and why business leaders should be paying attention now. If you've invested time building AI automations, or you're just starting to explore how AI can streamline your business, you'll discover how Custom GPTs, Projects, Skills, and Agents fit together, where each one excels, and why the future belongs to portable, reusable AI workflows. Rather than waiting for platform changes to force your hand, learn how to build AI systems that are flexible, scalable, and ready for what's next. This episode breaks down the concepts into practical examples you can apply immediately. In this session, you'll discover: Why the rumors around Custom GPTs matter - and what they could mean for your business. The differences between Chats, Custom GPTs, Projects, Skills, and AI Agents. When Projects are a better choice than Custom GPTs. How Skills make AI automations reusable across multiple workflows.

Full transcript

36 min

Transcribed and scored by The B2B Podcast Index.

1 - > Speaker: Hello and welcome to the Leveraging AI podcast, the 2 - > podcast that shares practical ethical ways to leverage AI to 3 - > improve efficiency, grow your business, and advance your 4 - > career. 5 - > This is Isar Matis, your host, and I have a interesting episode 6 - > for you today. 7 - > There have been growing rumors in the past few months that 8 - > OpenAI will cancel custom GPTs. 9 - > Now, those of you who don't know what custom GPTs are, well, then 10 - > you're not missing much.

11 - > But if you did not use any custom GPTs so far, then you 12 - > were missing maybe the most capable automation tool that AI 13 - > gave us until the existence of Skills and agents. 14 - > And many, many, many people, myself included, has multiple 15 - > custom GPTs which they were regularly using to run multiple 16 - > things in their business. 17 - > I switched completely to skills and agents, but I know many 18 - > people who have not. 19 - > Now, I haven't seen any real information from OpenAI about 20 - > custom GPTs going away, but if you're following what's 21 - > happening on X or on Reddit, then you would see that there 22 - > are many conversations talking about custom GPTs going away.

23 - > And if you are somebody like me, who until not too long ago were 24 - > running a lot of aspects of my business through custom GPTs, 25 - > then it is something that you need to be aware of and start 26 - > preparing for. 27 - > Either way, whether you have built custom GPTs that you're 28 - > using regularly or you don't and you wanna know how to build 29 - > different kinds of automations with AI that can run more or 30 - > less everything in your business, this would be a great 31 - > episode for you to learn the basic concepts because they're 32 - > the same across the board.

33 - > So let's get started. 34 - > I'm going to be sharing my screen, but those of you who are 35 - > just listening and not watching this, I will explain everything 36 - > that is on the screen. 37 - > So if you are driving or walking your dog or doing the dishes or 38 - > something like that, yoga, and you can't watch the screen, then 39 - > that's perfectly fine. 40 - > But if you do wanna watch the screen and you are able to do 41 - > this now, you can either do this on Spotify.

42 - > We're sharing the videos on Spotify as well as on our 43 - > YouTube channel, and there's a link to the YouTube channel on 44 - > the show notes. 45 - > But let's get started. 46 - > So there are several different levels on the ways you can work 47 - > with AI, whether it's ChatGPT or any of the others. 48 - > The very basic one is chat, right?

49 - > You can just go to the chat window of Gemini or Claude or 50 - > ChatGPT, et cetera, and just chat with it, and then you give 51 - > it instructions or questions, and then it does what it needs 52 - > to do. 53 - > You are heavily involved in the process. 54 - > Option number two is to create custom GPTs or projects. 55 - > These are a consistent setup with a bunch of instructions and 56 - > additional supporting information that becomes 57 - > reusable and allows the AI to follow an existing set of 58 - > instructions time and time again, without you having to 59 - > give it any additional instructions.

60 - > We're going to see examples shortly. 61 - > The third level, which is the newest of the three, and if you 62 - > want from an evolution perspective, we had custom GPTs 63 - > first. 64 - > That was something that OpenAI invented. 65 - > Then we got projects from Anthropic, which were then 66 - > copied by OpenAI to have projects inside of OpenAI.

67 - > And then we received gems from Gemini, which is a very similar 68 - > concept. 69 - > And then we got skills and agents and so on. 70 - > So skills was after, long after we had projects, but skills 71 - > allows you to make it portable and reusable automation 72 - > components, building blocks that you can use in multiple places. 73 - > You can use skills in other platforms.

74 - > So if you are using, as an example, ChatGPT in Excel, there 75 - > is an extension for that, or ChatGPT in PowerPoint, there's 76 - > an extension for that. 77 - > You can take your skills with you. 78 - > So if you have created skills for specific processes in 79 - > financial analysis, you can bring them from ChatGPT into 80 - > ChatGPT in Excel, and if you have a specific branding or 81 - > process or style that you're using and you created skills for 82 - > that, you can bring it into PowerPoint as well.

83 - > And then on top of that, there are obviously agents where you 84 - > can build agents. 85 - > And to be fair, I'll do a little distinction on what agents are 86 - > and what they're not, because there's a lot of chatter, and 87 - > everybody calls everything agents right now when it's not 88 - > really the case. 89 - > So agents are employees, right? 90 - > It's an entity that can do a full complete workflow and not 91 - > just one simple specific task again and again.

92 - > And they can do it end to end, and they can do it in a 93 - > consistent way while taking into account the information they 94 - > have and they do not have. 95 - > I'm not going to cover this today. 96 - > We're going to stop at skills because I wanna show you the 97 - > basic building blocks that you can use. 98 - > Uh, now, a skill is basically a very simple agent if you want, 99 - > and that's why a lot of people call them the same.

100 - > But an agent could be a lot more sophisticated, have access to 101 - > more tools, be connected to more systems than just a simple 102 - > skill. 103 - > So these are the different options that we have in front of 104 - > us today. 105 - > Now, before we dive into the different options, I wanna kind 106 - > of show you the process that I went through, the evolvement 107 - > that I went through through this process, through the lens of 108 - > writing proposals. 109 - > So today, I use what some of you see on the screen, which is a 110 - > very sophisticated proposal pipeline agent that has multiple 111 - > skills, that is connected to multiple systems in my 112 - > ecosystem, and that creates amazing proposals every time I 113 - > finish a conversation, uh, that is relevant in which a proposal 114 - > was requested or discussed.

115 - > It does all of that automatically. 116 - > It updates my CRM, it updates my Google Drive, it updates my 117 - > outbox with a draft email while attaching the proposal. 118 - > It does research in the back end on the customer. 119 - > It does a lot of other great stuff.

120 - > But this is not how I started. 121 - > How I started was a custom GPT. 122 - > So now let's look at what a custom GPT is. 123 - > If I go to ChatGPT Initially, and this is one of the reasons 124 - > why people thinking that custom GPTs are going away, custom GPTs 125 - > lived on the left menu right above where the conversations 126 - > are.

127 - > And now you can see it's not there. 128 - > Like, if you look for custom GPTs, you won't see them. 129 - > So where are they? 130 - > If you look on the left side menu, you have where you have 131 - > New Chat and Search Chats and Library and so on, there's the 132 - > three dots that says More.

133 - > If you click on More, you will see, uh, GPTs, and if you click 134 - > on that, you will see all your GPTs over there. 135 - > So they made it less intuitive to get to or create, and if you 136 - > don't know they exist, they just will disappear on you, and you 137 - > won't even know that they're there. 138 - > That gives you a hint that this is not their focus and not the 139 - > focus of their product. 140 - > Now, how does this work?

141 - > You can see that this is called Multiply AI Training Education 142 - > Proposal. 143 - > That's the name of this custom GPT. 144 - > All I have to do is I have to go to Add a File and drag in a file 145 - > of a conversation I had with a potential client and once it 146 - > loads the file, all I have to do is click Go. 147 - > I won't type anything, I won't say anything.

148 - > I literally just upload the transcript of a conversation 149 - > that I had with a client that requested a proposal, and it is 150 - > going to work, and it is going to write a great proposal. 151 - > And you can see it's already started writing, and it has an 152 - > introduction, and the objectives and why AI training is urgent, 153 - > and why to work with Multiply, which is my company where I 154 - > provide training and education, and training formats recommended 155 - > for this particular company based on their needs, and so on 156 - > and so forth, and pricing and the whole thing.

157 - > It writes about a eight to 12-page proposal, 158 - > well-structured, and I'm winning a lot of business, so these 159 - > proposals actually work pretty well. 160 - > Now, this is how I started. 161 - > It worked very, very well. 162 - > When projects started arriving, I switched it to projects, and 163 - > we're gonna talk about later on why, but at first I wanna show 164 - > you just so that you see the different options.

165 - > So now if we go in this particular case, this is a 166 - > Claude project, but inside the Claude project, what you can see 167 - > is the same kind of thing. 168 - > I uploaded the transcript. 169 - > I asked,"Please create a proposal based on my brand 170 - > guidelines," and it created the proposal. 171 - > One thing you can see immediately inside the project 172 - > that we're seeing right now is that it has my logo on top.

173 - > It is using my brand colors. 174 - > It is using my fonts. 175 - > It is, from a structure perspective, has a much better 176 - > structure from a document perspective. 177 - > The benefit of doing this in the old school way without this is 178 - > that I can edit the file.

179 - > Here I cannot edit the file because it is a Claude artifact, 180 - > which is not editable, which is really annoying, but that's the 181 - > case. 182 - > Uh, but it does come as a fully branded output, which now you 183 - > can do with skills inside of custom GPTs as well. 184 - > So what we have right now is we saw that y - I can do this in a 185 - > custom GPT. 186 - > I can do the same exact thing in a project, whether a project in 187 - > ChatGPT or a project in Claude or a gem in Gemini.

188 - > All of them will do exactly the same thing, and they will write 189 - > solid proposals And then like I said Then I switch to the full 190 - > skill-based agentic pipeline that has all the other functions 191 - > as well. 192 - > So now I do not use the custom GPT or the projects, but it 193 - > doesn't mean they're not good. 194 - > It doesn't mean that I couldn't use them. 195 - > It just saves me more time and does more things in an automated 196 - > way, and so it saves me more time while creating a better 197 - > output.

198 - > And so this is why I'm doing this. 199 - > But what I wanna show you today is different options so you can 200 - > pick the one that is best for you. 201 - > So first of all, let's talk about what they are. 202 - > All of these things, custom GPTs, projects, and skills have 203 - > the same exact DNA, and that same exact DNA is they have two 204 - > components.

205 - > They have a set of instructions that tell them what to do, and 206 - > there is context, meaning knowledge files and additional 207 - > information that the AI may need in order to create the output 208 - > that it needs to create. 209 - > So in the proposal example, this could be a proposal draft, or if 210 - > you want a template that it can use. 211 - > They could include a winning proposal or a few that has won 212 - > me business to show it what good looks like. 213 - > It could include descriptions of the services that I provide or 214 - > the products that I sell, so the AI understands what it can pick 215 - > from when it writes the proposal.

216 - > It could include links to my website or testimonial websites 217 - > or testimonials on LinkedIn that it can pull from in order to use 218 - > when it's writing proposals. 219 - > So all of these things are included as reference material, 220 - > as context for each and every one of the three. 221 - > It doesn't matter if it's a custom GPT, a project, or a 222 - > skill. 223 - > So they're very, very similar, and that's why when you think 224 - > about, let's say you do have 20 or 30 custom GPTs, and you're 225 - > afraid maybe OpenAI will take them away, converting them into 226 - > projects or skills is a very small effort because they use 227 - > exactly the same things Before we dive further, let's talk 228 - > about instructions.

229 - > AI reads instructions from multiple places every single 230 - > time you talk to it, especially in these kind of places. 231 - > So first of all, there is the system-wide, if you want, the 232 - > account-wide always-on instructions. 233 - > In Claude, you can change your claude.md, which is the file 234 - > that Claude reads at the beginning of every single 235 - > conversation, and you can tell it exactly how to work with you 236 - > across the board in every single interaction it has with you.

237 - > In ChatGPT, there is the custom instructions that live inside 238 - > the settings on the bottom left corner, and you can go and tell 239 - > OpenAI how to work with you, again, on every single 240 - > conversation. 241 - > Then inside a project, if you created a project, there are 242 - > project-level instructions. 243 - > Uh, same thing with a custom GPT. 244 - > So you can give it instructions, and again, I'll show you in a 245 - > minute where exactly you do this in the system itself.

246 - > Then there in the Skill, there is Skill details, which is where 247 - > it writes the instructions for the Skill, and there are two 248 - > levels of memory in addition. 249 - > One of them is the general memory, which remember things 250 - > about you, and you probably noticed that ChatGPT or Claude 251 - > already knows stuff about you. 252 - > It knows where you work, it knows what you do, it knows your 253 - > hobbies, it knows everything you talk to it about, but it's not 254 - > at a very granular level.

255 - > On the granular level, a, it is connected to the specific 256 - > project. 257 - > So every project is a little bubble of context that remember 258 - > things about that particular project. 259 - > And a project could be, well, a project, that kind of makes 260 - > sense, but it also could be a specific client. 261 - > So you can keep a specific client information in a project, 262 - > have a separate project for every client, and have all your 263 - > conversations about that client in that project, and the project 264 - > is gonna remember more and more details about that particular 265 - > client, about the people who work there, about proposal you 266 - > sent them, and so on and so forth.

267 - > Uh, and so there's these two levels of memory. 268 - > There's the general memory and the project-specific memory. 269 - > So all of these things are places that the AI will reach 270 - > out to, depending on what kind of conversation you're having, 271 - > in order to get additional information to be used Now, what 272 - > I want you to remember that applies to each and every one of 273 - > those things here is that AI is an intern. 274 - > It's not just an intern, it is the best intern on the planet, 275 - > right?

276 - > It will do amazing things. 277 - > But just like you won't bring an intern into your room and say, 278 - > "Hey, I want you to write me this report," or,"I want you to 279 - > create this proposal," or,"I want you to create the summary 280 - > of one, two, and three," because it will probably fail. 281 - > And if it will fail, you will know it is your fault because 282 - > you didn't tell the intern exactly what to do, and the 283 - > intern doesn't know you, he doesn't know the company, he 284 - > does not know the industry.

285 - > He or she is an intern. 286 - > And AI is exactly the same thing. 287 - > So the instructions you're gonna give it, regardless whether you 288 - > give them in a custom GPT or a project or a skill, et cetera, 289 - > are the SOP, the standard operating procedure on how to do 290 - > a specific process. 291 - > The knowledge files that you're gonna give it is the binder 292 - > you're going to give the intern in order to know everything they 293 - > need to know.

294 - > So when you sit with the intern, you're gonna show them,"Okay. 295 - > Here are the previous proposal we gave to this client. 296 - > Here's information you can find about this client. 297 - > Here's where on SharePoint you can find information about the 298 - > services that we provide.

299 - > Here on these Excel files, you can run the pricing and get to 300 - > the..." Like, that's what you're going to do, and you need to do 301 - > the same thing for the AI, and then it's going to do an 302 - > amazing, amazing work for you every single time. 303 - > Now, the project, if you want a ChatGPT or a Claude project, is 304 - > a dedicated workstation, right? 305 - > It's, it's the table that has the computer and all the files 306 - > and everything you need in order to get access to the right 307 - > information.

308 - > And the skill, if you want, is a laminated SOP card. 309 - > It's something you can take with you if you want a suitcase with 310 - > everything you need, so you can go to other offices and do the 311 - > work over there, and you'll see why I'm saying that once we talk 312 - > more about what a skill is. 313 - > But it is basically a project or a custom GPT that is fully 314 - > portable and can work from everywhere without going 315 - > specifically to that folder. 316 - > So let's dive a little deeper to the first two options of a 317 - > custom GPT versus a project.

318 - > And again, if you'll see that they're very, very similar and 319 - > that you can switch between the two very, very quickly. 320 - > So if custom GPTs will go away, your first immediate line of 321 - > defense is switching your custom GPTs into projects. 322 - > And as you will see in a minute, there are benefits to actually 323 - > using projects over custom GPTs. 324 - > But both things will do roughly the same thing.

325 - > They will get an input, they will run through a process, and 326 - > will give you an output, and they will give you a consistent 327 - > output every single time So we looked at the example before of 328 - > the proposal, but what I wanna show you right now is in 329 - > addition to showing you the outcome, I wanna show you how it 330 - > actually works. 331 - > So if I go back to the custom GPT on the top left corner, 332 - > there is the name of the custom GPT that has a dropdown menu, 333 - > and you can click on Edit.

334 - > If you click on Edit GPT, which is exactly the same screen 335 - > you're going to see if you create your own, which I'll show 336 - > you in a minute how to do, you're going to see a similar 337 - > screen. 338 - > What you're going to see is on the left side, you're going to 339 - > have the name, the description, the instructions, the inputs, 340 - > the knowledge base, the actual graphs you attach, and some 341 - > other stuff such as recommended model that you can pick and 342 - > capabilities that you can choose.

343 - > And if you really want, you can add code on the bottom. 344 - > And there are conversation starters where you can add 345 - > buttons to allow other people to understand how to use your 346 - > custom GPT. 347 - > But let's dive into the most important things. 348 - > The name just gives it a name, tells it what it does.

349 - > So in this particular case, it's Multiply AI Training and 350 - > Education Proposal. 351 - > The second thing is the description, writes proposals, 352 - > blah, blah, blah. 353 - > The description doesn't really matter. 354 - > It's for you, and if you share it with others, for the people 355 - > you share it with.

356 - > The most important part is the instructions. 357 - > The instructions is where it tells you what it's actually 358 - > doing. 359 - > And you can see you're an expert proposal writer. 360 - > Your goal is to write clear, easy to read, and follow an 361 - > attractive AI training proposals.

362 - > And then it explains what the inputs are going to be, and it's 363 - > going to explain exactly what the process is to take those 364 - > inputs and analyze them, and then it tells it exactly what 365 - > the output needs to be. 366 - > So this is how it runs. 367 - > It references two separate files in the proposal, in the 368 - > instructions. 369 - > One is the Multiply AI services brochure, where it can take 370 - > information about what are the services and describe what's the 371 - > value in doing or taking these services from us.

372 - > And the other is a master template AI for training and 373 - > education of AI. 374 - > Why does it need that? 375 - > Because then it knows how to draft it from a formatting and 376 - > flow and structure perspective. 377 - > And this outline is really a very full comprehensive outline 378 - > of a proposal I will never write.

379 - > It describes every single thing that I deliver, which nobody 380 - > ever orders all of them, at least not all at once. 381 - > And so What it tells it in the instructions, it says,"Each 382 - > proposal that you write will include one or more of these 383 - > training options. 384 - > You need to only include the components that were discussed 385 - > with the prospect based on the transcriptions and/or emails I 386 - > will provide you." Right?

387 - > So this is what it does. 388 - > It gets access to a lot of different options, and it knows 389 - > how to pick just the ones that are relevant based on the 390 - > conversation we had. 391 - > And that's it. 392 - > That's all you need.

393 - > That's the entire magic, and it will know how to write proposals 394 - > if you wrote the instructions correctly, and we're gonna talk 395 - > about this in a minute on how to do that. 396 - > In a very similar way, if you go to the project, the project has 397 - > the same thing. 398 - > So if we look at the project level, you'll be able to see the 399 - > files that are connected to it, as well as the... 400 - > You can see brand, uh, guidelines and, uh, clarifying 401 - > client proposal details, and so on.

402 - > And you can see here that it has instructions. 403 - > So inside the instructions, if I click on them, it is the same 404 - > exact instructions that we've seen before. 405 - > I literally copied and pasted the instructions. 406 - > So if we go back to the previous section, you can see it looks - 407 - > it's, has the same exact thing, the overview, the knowledge base 408 - > requirements, the core workflow, like all the different things, 409 - > uh, that were there before are also here.

410 - > And then you can attach different files to here, uh, 411 - > that you can attach, so it can use as references for the 412 - > proposal. 413 - > So very similar process, different tools, but 414 - > instructions and knowledge files, and then you can just 415 - > drag in the transcript or emails or whatever you define for it as 416 - > inputs, and it will know how to do the work By the way, to 417 - > create new custom GPTs inside of ChatGPT, you go, as I mentioned 418 - > before, to the three little dots where it says More, you click on 419 - > GPTs, and on the top right corner there's a Create button.

420 - > If you wanna create a project inside of ChatGPT, they live 421 - > right above your chats, and you can see I have many, many, many 422 - > of them. 423 - > And in here, next to where it says Projects, if you put your 424 - > mouse over it, there's a plus button that will allow you to 425 - > create a new project. 426 - > So on both platforms, it is relatively easy to know where to 427 - > go. 428 - > Again, other than custom GPTs that are now hidden under the 429 - > More menu because I think OpenAI wants you to now build projects 430 - > and/or agents or skills.

431 - > So now let's continue with our flow. 432 - > Another example, by the way, that we have here, which I'm not 433 - > gonna dive into, but I will talk about in two seconds, is 434 - > converting data, raw data, like really large Excel files. 435 - > So if I open this, you will see that it has, multiple columns, 436 - > like dozens of columns, and then thousands of rows in this 437 - > particular file. 438 - > And this could be a sales report, this could be financial 439 - > analysis, this could be a scraping of customer, uh, 440 - > pricing, like whatever the source data is, and it turns it 441 - > into a very detailed report in the end that shows, in this 442 - > particular case, sales, and it has the table of content, and it 443 - > has an executive summary, and it has a business overview, and it 444 - > has a lot of other stuff that shows graphs and charts and 445 - > different information.

446 - > By the way, all the information in this one is completely fake. 447 - > It's based on a random generated, data, but the concept 448 - > is perfect, right? 449 - > You can see a very detailed... 450 - > Again, those of you who are seeing, those of you who don't 451 - > have to believe me.

452 - > It is a well-branded, well-structured, well-organized 453 - > report with graphs and charts and analysis of all the data 454 - > from the source file. 455 - > And this could be built either as a custom GPT or as a project 456 - > or as a skill, so that doesn't really matter. 457 - > So now between custom GPTs and projects, let's look at a quick 458 - > comparison table. 459 - > The purpose of both of them is roughly the same, right?

460 - > Is to bo- be able to have a conversation. 461 - > But the project has another benefit. 462 - > The project is more of a workspace or, like I said, a 463 - > context bubble where you can have free conversation. 464 - > So while the custom GPT is built to do a recurring task and again 465 - > and again and again, the project can do the same thing, but can 466 - > also allow you to just have any open conversation inside the 467 - > project while taking into account the memory of the 468 - > project and the information that was attached to it, while a 469 - > custom GPT doesn't do it, or at least doesn't do it as good.

470 - > You can attach files to both of them. 471 - > You can give instructions to both of them. 472 - > The amount of data you can give into each and every one is 473 - > roughly the same, depending on the specific plan you have. 474 - > There are Three big differences.

475 - > One is memory. 476 - > As I mentioned, custom GPTs, every single chat is a new chat. 477 - > It doesn't know anything about what happened in the previous 478 - > chats with that custom GPT. 479 - > Inside the project, there is a project memory where it's going 480 - > to learn more and more information as you have more 481 - > conversations inside the project.

482 - > The other benefit of running the conversations inside a project 483 - > is the conversations live inside the project, where you can see 484 - > each conversation that happened inside the project, one under 485 - > the other, while in a custom GPT, the conversations appear in 486 - > the regular conversations of ChatGPT, which means they're 487 - > gonna be hidden between the other 10,000 conversations that 488 - > you're having. 489 - > So if you wanna be able to see the same report that you created 490 - > last week, it will be extremely easy to do in the projects 491 - > because it's just gonna show there as the previous line item, 492 - > and in the ChatGPT, you'll have to do search and filter and find 493 - > the right one and check it, and so on.

494 - > So that's another benefit. 495 - > The only real benefit of custom GPTs is that you can add code at 496 - > the bottom of the custom GPT, which means you can connect it 497 - > to an API of external tools. 498 - > This is something you cannot do in projects right now. 499 - > That being said, with Skills, you can now do similar things.

500 - > And that being said, I probably have over 50 custom GPTs that I 501 - > created and used, and I created code in two of them. 502 - > So it's not something that I've done very commonly, and I doubt 503 - > that a lot of people did. 504 - > While it is a benefit, it is not a huge benefit. 505 - > Once I understood the benefits of projects, I stopped using 506 - > custom GPTs completely.

507 - > I converted the main ones into projects, not all of them. 508 - > And then I said again, I converted more or less 509 - > everything into Skills and Agents How do I create all of 510 - > them? 511 - > Whether I'm creating a custom GPT, a project, and/or a skill, 512 - > I'm always creating them starting with a regular chat. 513 - > I'm going into a regular chat, either in Claude or in ChatGPT.

514 - > When I do this in Claude, I do this in Claude Cowork. 515 - > When I do this in ChatGPT, it doesn't matter. 516 - > You can do this in the regular ChatGPT and/or in Codex, and you 517 - > can explain what you wanna do. 518 - > You can give it the files, and you just work through the 519 - > process.

520 - > You give it the data. 521 - > I said,"Okay, let's clean the data. 522 - > I want you to understand what's in the data. 523 - > I'm gonna give you this kind of data every single time."

Now you 524 - > iterate through the process. 525 - > You explain exactly how to get to the outcome you wanna get to, 526 - > whether the final report or the proposal or the analysis or 527 - > whatever it is that you're trying to do. 528 - > Once you get to that outcome, you can ask the AI, again, 529 - > whether ChatGPT or Claude or Gemini or any other, and say,"I 530 - > want you to turn everything we did right now, just the stuff 531 - > that worked, not the stuff that didn't work, into a X."

This 532 - > could be instructions for a custom GPT, instructions for a 533 - > project, or a skill, and it will know how to do that. 534 - > If it builds a skill for you, it will package it and will give 535 - > you an Install button as soon as it's done. 536 - > If it is a custom GPT or a project, you will have to then 537 - > take the instructions and paste them into a custom GPT you 538 - > create or a project that you create. 539 - > What you should tell the AI is which files you're gonna give 540 - > the custom GPT or project as references, so it can use it in 541 - > the instructions that it's creating.

542 - > So let's look at a quick example. 543 - > In this example, I was building a custom GPT that writes 544 - > questions for sessions of the courses that I teach. 545 - > Uh, those of you who do not know yet because you're new to the 546 - > show, I teach AI courses. 547 - > I either teach them online to people who can join or do 548 - > private workshops for companies.

549 - > Either way, I need tests, and I need ways to check that people 550 - > are learning the process. 551 - > And instead of doing this manually, I'm using a custom GPT 552 - > to do this. 553 - > Again, not anymore, but this is how I started. 554 - > So what I started here is I said,"Hey, I need your help in 555 - > creating a new custom GPT.

556 - > I'm going to explain to you what the needs are, and I'm going to 557 - > give you some examples, and then I will need your help in 558 - > creating the instructions for the custom GPT. 559 - > Is that okay?" And it said, "Absolutely. 560 - > That sounds great," blah, blah, blah.

561 - > And I said, Okay, so I'm creating a course about AI, and 562 - > what I have is the transcript of all the different sessions What 563 - > I will give you is examples of the transcripts of one session 564 - > and the questions that were written for it by humans, so you 565 - > get an idea of what kind of questions we are looking for. 566 - > And then I would like you to do is I would like you to explain 567 - > these questions in a way that the GPT will be able to create 568 - > questions when I give it new transcripts, and so on and so 569 - > forth.

570 - > You understand the point. 571 - > We went back and forth several times. 572 - > You can see if I scroll down, those of you who are watching, 573 - > it's a very, very long conversation. 574 - > It created the first set of instructions.

575 - > It didn't work well. 576 - > We tested it again. 577 - > We iterated, we compared it to other questions. 578 - > We basically went in several cycles of fixes, and you can see 579 - > it here about iterating.

580 - > It most likely won't work perfectly the first time. 581 - > You iterate several times, and once you're done, you ask it to 582 - > create the instructions, and then you can create the GPT or 583 - > project or skill. 584 - > Then you still have to test it. 585 - > There is a pro tip here about reusing the code.

586 - > What does that mean? 587 - > If you're doing financial analysis, as an example, every 588 - > time you're uploading an Excel to ChatGPT or Claude, what it's 589 - > actually doing it is writing Python code. 590 - > By clicking inside the thinking little thing, uh, when it's 591 - > blinking, when it's doing its work, or with retrospect, you go 592 - > back and click and expand these sections where it was thinking 593 - > or creating or doing something. 594 - > Not where it's providing you the answer, but the section where it 595 - > was thinking.

596 - > It's usually in a more, uh, grayed out, smaller font. 597 - > You click on that, you can see the code. 598 - > So if the AI wrote code that actually did the process 599 - > perfectly, you do not want it recreating that code every time 600 - > you run the process because of two reasons. 601 - > One, it's gonna cost you tokens to write the code, so it's gonna 602 - > cost you more money.

603 - > Two, one in every X number of times, let's say one in twenty, 604 - > it will not write the code perfectly and you're gonna get 605 - > the wrong outcome. 606 - > So what you can do is you can take that snippet of code and 607 - > tell AI inside the instructions to use that code for that step 608 - > in the process. 609 - > This way, it just uses the code that is there. 610 - > It doesn't have to recreate it from scratch, and it will run 611 - > consistently every single time.

612 - > so now we understand what is a custom GPT and what is a 613 - > project. 614 - > Now let's talk about skills. 615 - > So what is a skill? 616 - > A skill is basically the same kind of thing, only it's 617 - > portable, and the fact that it's portable make it a lot more 618 - > reusable in several different ways.

619 - > You don't have to go to the project or the custom GPT to do 620 - > the work. 621 - > You can just tell AI to do something, and it knows which 622 - > skills it can pull. 623 - > It can mix and match skills together to do much more 624 - > sophisticated processes, and it's just much more powerful 625 - > because of that, and they are the building blocks for more 626 - > advanced agents afterwards. 627 - > So there are a lot of benefits for skills.

628 - > But a skill is basically the same thing we talked about 629 - > before. 630 - > It is a set of instructions and knowledge files just packaged in 631 - > a way that the AI knows how to pull it when it needs to pull it 632 - > So how does it know? 633 - > How does AI, whether ChatGPT or Claude or any of the other tools 634 - > that are using skills today, and today it's more or less 635 - > everything, including coding platforms and so on. 636 - > The way they know how to use skills is because every single 637 - > skill has a short one-paragraph description in the beginning 638 - > that explains what it does, and this is how it's formatted every 639 - > single time, and you don't have to know about it, and you don't 640 - > have to care about it because you don't do this.

641 - > The AI that creates the skill will create that first paragraph 642 - > for you. 643 - > But every time you start a conversation, any conversation 644 - > with any AI, it is going to upload all the descriptions, 645 - > that first paragraph of all the skill it has. 646 - > So in this case, you can see there's a skill called Proposal 647 - > Coordinator, and then there's a description, Master Orchestrator 648 - > for the Multiply Proposal Pipeline, which I showed you 649 - > earlier the screenshot for, with all the different skills in it 650 - > and all the different components and the connection to my tools 651 - > and all the other stuff that it does.

652 - > So this is the orchestrator that manages the entire process. 653 - > By the way, talking about the courses that I teach, we have 654 - > been teaching the multi-agent orchestration course for the 655 - > past few months, both to companies as private workshops 656 - > as well as open to the public, and it is extremely successful, 657 - > and people and organizations are doing absolutely magical things 658 - > immediately after the course. 659 - > So if you're interested in learning how to combine multiple 660 - > skills together to create processes like this one, but 661 - > like any other process, literally any knowledge work 662 - > that you have in your company right now can be automated with 663 - > this exact process.

664 - > Just be adapting it to the needs that you have. 665 - > So if you wanna learn that, we are currently selling the last 666 - > few seats of our August cohort. 667 - > We sold May, June, and July already. 668 - > August is the currently open one, but it only has a few 669 - > seats, if any.

670 - > So if you wanna do that before September, this would be a great 671 - > time to click on the link in the show notes and jump straight 672 - > there, or you will have to take the course in September. 673 - > If you are in a leadership position in an organization and 674 - > you wanna do this privately to your team, please reach out to 675 - > me on LinkedIn or via email. 676 - > There's a link to book time with me in the show notes, and I can 677 - > explain to you exactly what are the pros and cons and, what is 678 - > the service and so on.

679 - > But back to this. 680 - > In this particular case, this is an orchestrator skill that 681 - > manages the entire process, and if I would have opened this in 682 - > whatever tool that I'm doing, I would have gotten the entire 683 - > instructions, which are long, detailed, and complicated. 684 - > But because it knows how to read this, then if I'm going to say 685 - > something,"I need your help in writing a proposal," or if I 686 - > will say,"I need to write a quote for this and that client," 687 - > or if I will say, run their proposal pipeline, all of these 688 - > things it will understand in a regular chat anywhere in Claude.

689 - > It will know how to pull the right skills and use them, and 690 - > this skill will know how to call the other skills so I don't have 691 - > to package them all together, and so on. 692 - > So it understands from the context which skills to use 693 - > based on that initial paragraph that it reads from. 694 - > So because you can build multiple skills and they can 695 - > call one another, in addition to writing proposals, you can do 696 - > really cool things. 697 - > In this particular example, this is a finance team example.

698 - > There's a really big, large file that I showed you before. 699 - > It's again a fake file that I use for different examples, but 700 - > it's a really big, large fake file with multiple data points 701 - > and multiple rows and columns. 702 - > And if you are in a financial team, and this is a financial 703 - > report, you need at the end of each week, each month, each 704 - > quarter, whatever frequency, create multiple reports, like a 705 - > trend report, a variance report, a regional report, a labor, a 706 - > WBS breakdown report, a movers and changers report up and down, 707 - > multiple reports that you need to create.

708 - > And it takes a lot of time, and it generates more Excel files. 709 - > Well, what you can do is you can create multiple skills that will 710 - > create different outcomes whenever you want. 711 - > So in this particular case, it's something I've done for a real 712 - > client. 713 - > Instead of creating just the Excel reports that they were 714 - > creating previously, we also created a skill that creates a 715 - > document, like a detailed report with analysis and graphs and 716 - > charts and explanations like I showed you before.

717 - > We created a executive summary of that report in a PowerPoint, 718 - > and we created a dashboard that shows live data that you can 719 - > filter and change and select and go through different aspects of 720 - > the data in a interactive dashboard. 721 - > Each and every one of them was a separate skill. 722 - > They're all being fed from the same data source. 723 - > So this is the benefit of using skills, and all you have to do 724 - > is tell it what you want, and it will know how to pick the right 725 - > skills or run all of them because there's an orchestrator 726 - > that knows how to create all of them all at once.

727 - > So what are these skills' superpowers? 728 - > First of all, they're more flexible. 729 - > They can be used anytime. 730 - > You don't need to open the project or the custom GPT in 731 - > order to do them.

732 - > They can be combined with other skills to create agents or to 733 - > create multi-skill processes with one skill calling other 734 - > skills, and so on. 735 - > And you can run it in other apps, like I said in the 736 - > beginning. 737 - > You can run skills inside of Claude and skills inside of 738 - > ChatGPT, extensions inside of Excel as an example. 739 - > So if you created a skill that knows how to do a specific 740 - > financial analysis, you can now take it into ChatGPT in Excel 741 - > and do that in Excel itself without ever leaving it and 742 - > continue to work the way you're used to while enjoying those 743 - > skills.

744 - > This is something you cannot do with projects or with custom 745 - > GPTs So we talked about three out of, if you want, the five 746 - > things that you can create with AI today that can help you 747 - > automate your work. 748 - > The first one is just a regular prompt in a chat, which we all 749 - > know and like and use a lot. 750 - > Uh, to be fair, I switched completely to the agentic world. 751 - > The amount of times I use regular chat is negligible.

752 - > I'm not saying it's not helpful. 753 - > I'm just saying using a more agentic environment like Claude 754 - > Cowork or like ChatGPT Codex, or now Copilot Cowork, which is 755 - > basically a copy of the Claude Cowork just connected into the 756 - > Microsoft universe, is a lot more powerful. 757 - > You can create projects which are reusable automations. 758 - > Again, you can create custom GPTs.

759 - > I do not recommend doing this anymore. 760 - > Just create projects and that's it, because all the agentic 761 - > universe are gonna be built on top of that. 762 - > And then it can be the skills that are more flexible, can be 763 - > combined with others, and so on. 764 - > The two layers above that is creating entire workflows, so 765 - > agents that will do more sophisticated things like the 766 - > one I showed you in the beginning that connects to many 767 - > components in my tech stack, including my CRM and including 768 - > my, email platform and my marketing platform and my data 769 - > behind the scenes.

770 - > For my case, it's Google Drive, but it could be Notion or it 771 - > could be, Microsoft or any other kind of solution where you save 772 - > files. 773 - > And you can create entire applications, meaning use vibe 774 - > coding in order to connect a lot of these things together, which 775 - > in many cases are not necessary Something to think about though 776 - > before you develop any of these things is if you're running on a 777 - > personal account, then these things will most likely force 778 - > you, as you build more and more of them, to go into the higher 779 - > levels of licensing.

780 - > So you won't be able to use - I mean, you will be able to use 781 - > the$20 a month, tool, but not to do a lot of these things in 782 - > parallel. 783 - > So you will be forced to upgrade to the next level, either 50 or 784 - > 100 or$200, depending on the platform and how aggressively 785 - > you use these tools. 786 - > Uh, if you are on an enterprise account, many of these things 787 - > charge by tokens or credits, and every company does it 788 - > differently, and they do it confusing on purpose.

789 - > But in general, every time you're using agentic 790 - > capabilities, it is going to cost you and/or your company, if 791 - > it's not you paying, additional money, so you need to be aware 792 - > of that, and you need to be aware and start learning how to 793 - > reduce the amount of tokens these tools use in order to 794 - > reduce the cost that is going to be associated with using these 795 - > more advanced tools. 796 - > There are many, many different ways which we're not going to 797 - > jump into.

798 - > The easiest one to save money is to go to not the frontier model. 799 - > Models from six months ago and even a year ago are good enough 800 - > to do most of the tasks you're doing today, and so, you don't 801 - > necessarily have to use Fable 5 or GPT 5.5 or whatever the case 802 - > may be. 803 - > You can use a model from six months ago, pay significantly 804 - > less, and still get a solid output.

805 - > That's it for today. 806 - > I hope you found this helpful. 807 - > Again, I'm not sure OpenAI is going to sunset custom GPTs. 808 - > It definitely seems this way.

809 - > The rumor mill is pushing hard in that direction, and the fact 810 - > that they've hidden it very, very well, and the fact that the 811 - > API that did this through an API, the Assistants API, has 812 - > been sunset, announced to be sunset earlier this year. 813 - > Most people deserted it already, and it's gonna be completely 814 - > stopped by August of this year. 815 - > So, but there are, again, great other options in the shape of 816 - > projects and Skills and agents.

817 - > And as I mentioned, if you want to learn how to do this at Skill 818 - > and combine these things together with your tech stack to 819 - > build any kind of automation for any kind of knowledge work in 820 - > your company, don't hesitate and come join our courses or our 821 - > private workshops. 822 - > But that's it for now.

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