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Ammunition- Kelly Heilpern Chief Strategy Officer and Chris Shadrick Director of Strategy

Inspiring Futures · 2026-05-05 · 53 min

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This episode is really about how agencies evolve under pressure . Ammunition began with deep expertise in home and building, a category defined by complicated purchase journeys, multiple decision-makers, long sales cycles, and considered decisions. That gave the agency an early advantage. But the more interesting part is how it learned from that advantage. The lesson was not simply “we know this category.” The lesson was: “we know how to solve complex growth problems.” That shift matters. Because agencies are operating in a difficult market. Clients are under pressure. CMOs are being asked to do more with less. AI is changing the production layer. Channels keep multiplying. And there is more marketing activity than ever, but not always more progress. In that context, Ammunition’s proposition, Growth, no matter what , becomes more than a line. It becomes a way of thinking about agency value. Kelly and Chris describe an agency trying to stay useful by learning continuously: from clients, from research, from AI, from category complexity, from international expansion, and from the changing pressures facing CMOs.

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