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HR & Payroll 2.0

Hosted by WRKdefined Podcast Network

Join Pete A. Tiliakos and Julie Fernandez as they combine their unique HR and payroll industry knowledge, experience, and POV’s for highly authentic conversations that unpack the key trends, challenges, and opportunities facing HR and Payroll leaders today! Powered ad-free by G-P, OneSource Virtual, and Zoho.

157 episodes · publishes weekly · latest 2026-07-02 · ~43 min/episode

Rank

#2748

Substance

63.0

/ 100

Breakdown

Scored 2026-07
Updated monthly

HR rank

#147 of 381

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Across the index

#2748 of 6183

Substance

Top 44%

outscores 56% of the index

Why it scores where it does

HR & Payroll 2.0 ranks #2748 on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 63.0 out of 100, scored across 1 recent episode. It scores highest on specificity & evidence and insight density. The episode benefits from a reasonable set of concrete figures - acquisition counts, payroll volume, skills database size - and named products and companies, but many numbers are hedged with uncertainty ('I think,' 'I believe'), and the product descriptions stay largely at a marketing-summary level without evidence of customer outcomes or independent validation.

The five-dimension breakdown

Averaged across 1 recently scored episode, with cited evidence.

Insight Density

14.0 / 20

The episode delivers a moderate density of useful information - specific product announcements, pricing model structures, and M&A logic - but is heavily diluted by conversational filler, tangents, and generic commentary about AI and frontline workers that offers little a seasoned HCM practitioner wouldn't already know.

“Most of the EORs in the marketplace are excellent at employing, paying and helping you manage employees at scale or globally at scale, where they're not that great, is finding that talent to begin with.”

“they are not doing add ons for assistive AI... they are doing some outcome based agents... they are not tokenizing agents or charging for API access and MCP calls”

Originality

13.0 / 20

A few genuinely interesting angles emerge - particularly the EOR 'sameness' critique, the sourcing-plus-employing differentiation argument, and the ARCs/ROOKs analogy applied to AI consumption pricing - but these are surrounded by well-worn takes about frontline workers, AI transformation, and skills intelligence that circulate constantly in HCM commentary.

“There's a lot of sameness. Um, there's a lot of EOR for the sake of eor.”

“are we cramming, are we cramming the past into the future and expecting some different outcome and really just amplifying what we've, what we've always been doing wrong”

Guest Caliber

10.0 / 20

This is a two-analyst conversation with no external guests; Pete and Julie are knowledgeable industry advisors with real practitioner backgrounds, but they function primarily as conference recappers and commentators rather than operators who built or scaled these systems - no vendor executives, enterprise buyers, or domain practitioners appear.

“I'm Pete Tiliakis and as always, I'm joined by the legendary Julie Fernandez.”

“I'll be candid, there was a little confusion on what products we could share and not share”

Specificity & Evidence

15.0 / 20

The episode benefits from a reasonable set of concrete figures - acquisition counts, payroll volume, skills database size - and named products and companies, but many numbers are hedged with uncertainty ('I think,' 'I believe'), and the product descriptions stay largely at a marketing-summary level without evidence of customer outcomes or independent validation.

“they're doing about 58 billion in payroll processing... 4.2 million work site employees”

“pulling off of 45 million users data or over the years, I guess you could say 55,000 skills and more than a billion workforce profiles”

Conversational Craft

11.0 / 20

Julie's role is mostly reactive - brief affirmations and occasional brief additions - and Pete rarely faces a challenging follow-up or pushback on vendor claims; the pricing discussion and the ARCs/ROOKs exchange are the strongest moments of genuine dialogue, but most of the episode functions as a monologue with light acknowledgment.

“you dangled the idea of talking about um, Bright and some of the AI pricing before us. So I'm um, ready, I was ready for it.”

“Is there, is there some angle to that that goes with, you know, maybe clients that have been with UKG for quite some time before, before they started bringing those components that work together”

Standout episodes

  • HR & Payroll Tech Marketplace Events Recap (Summer 2026, June)

    2026-06-30

    63

Rank over time

First period on the Index - history builds from here.

Episodes

1 scored on substance · 61 tracked in total.

  • HR & Payroll Tech Marketplace Events Recap (Summer 2026, June)

    2026-06-30 · 51 min

    63 / 100

Frequently asked

What is HR & Payroll 2.0's substance score?
HR & Payroll 2.0 scores 63.0 out of 100 for substance and ranks #2748 on The B2B Podcast Index. That puts it ahead of 56% of the B2B podcasts we rank and #147 of 381 in HR. The score reflects insight density, originality, guest caliber, specificity and conversational craft across recent episodes - not downloads.
Is HR & Payroll 2.0 worth listening to?
Yes - HR & Payroll 2.0 outscores 56% of the B2B hr podcasts and shows we rank on substance, so a hr operator is likely to come away with something useful.
Who hosts HR & Payroll 2.0?
HR & Payroll 2.0 is hosted by WRKdefined Podcast Network.
How often does HR & Payroll 2.0 publish?
HR & Payroll 2.0 publishes weekly, has 157 episodes, released its most recent episode on 2026-07-02.
Which HR & Payroll 2.0 episode should I start with?
Our highest-scoring recent episode is "HR & Payroll Tech Marketplace Events Recap (Summer 2026, June)" (63/100) - a good place to start.

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Frequently discusses

Companies, products and tools that come up most across this show's episodes.

Venture HRPRISM HRSAP SuccessFactorsCornerstone on DemandUKGSolvo GlobalListo GlobalGuru HRVirgil HRSmart Recruiters

Guests who've appeared

Julie Fernandez

Topics this show covers

The themes that come up most across this show's episodes.

PEO (Professional Employer Organization)EOR (Employer of Record)PRISM HRVenture HR ServicesSolvo GlobalListo GlobalSAP SuccessFactorsJoule AIForward-Deployed Engineers (FDEs)PRISM HR Global

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