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DevEx Is About Making the Car Faster, Not the Driver

Hangar DX Podcast · 2025-10-02 · 38 min

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Developer experienceSoftware engineering

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"Let’s not worry about how fast somebody can run. Let’s assume that they will be fast if they’re in a rocket." In this episode of The Hangar DX podcast, Shahab Malik, DevEx UX Researcher at JP Morgan Chase, discusses researching developers' needs and pain points in a 70,000-engineer organization and advocates for an enablement approach to developer productivity metrics. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Developer Experience and UX Research 01:59 The Role of UX Research in Developer Experience 05:21 Methodologies in UX Research 10:08 Understanding Developer Needs and Pain Points 13:59 Metrics and Measuring Developer Productivity 20:52 The Importance of System Metrics vs. Individual Metrics 27:40 Communicating Developer Experience to Leadership 32:43 The Impact of AI on Developer Experience About Shahab Malik Shahab Malik is a UX Researcher at JPMorgan Chase, where he focuses on Developer Experience (DevEx) within the firm’s Internal Developer Platform (IDP). With a PhD in cultural anthropology, Shahab brings both qualitative and quantitative methods to studying human behavior in complex technical environments.

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