Tuesday Edition of The EE! With David Holt-Consumers Energy Alliance!

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Speaker A: I'm doing well, Shawn. How about yourself, man?

Speaker C: Dude, I'm just living the dream. Another. I woke up breathing this morning, thanked the good Lord and got to come to work and do this show and talk to you, man. How much better is it going to get?

Speaker A: One day at a time. One day at a time.

Speaker C: Boy. Seems like a lot happens in every day right now with, um, what's going on in the Middle east and what's going on with the oil and gas industry and, uh, the data centers, the moratoriums. Oh, my goodness gracious. Where would you like to start, sir?

Speaker A: You know, it's, it's. Yeah, it is. It's kind of Groundhog Day. But there's so much going on, uh, so many opportunities. I mean, I think, you know, we, one day we hear the Iranian conflict might be kind of wrapping up, and then they do some more stable rattling. So, uh, you know, that thing's going on a little longer than we want. But, you know, obviously the good news is we're producing so much here at home, prices could be a lot worse. Every time we saw Middle east conflict or conflict around the world in the 70s and early 80s when we weren't producing as much, uh, you know, our gasoline, we had gasoline shortages, if you, you remember all that, Sean. So now we don't have that. We're in a better, much better position from the geopolitics of energy, geopolitics, oil and natural gas. So, uh, we're, we're in a, we're in a good spot. We want this, uh, conflict to end, uh, to get prices down even further for consumers. But, you know, we thank the Lord for oil and gas and our natural resources here in this America.

Speaker C: I totally agree. Down there in the Permian Basin, I understand that the little lizards not going to keep a lot of oil and gas industry advancement down there. Did you, did you see the word that they took that, um, the Permian lizard off the endangered list.

Speaker A: Oh, I had, I missed that. That's, that's good news.

Speaker C: That little sucker was holding up a lot of progress. Yeah, the other thing I was going to hit you up about, David, and it's all about the consumer's energy. But Trump's new push for coal, you know, in fact, a couple new coal plants in, maybe in the works. What are your thoughts there? Because, you know, the United States produces quite a little bit of coal as well.

Speaker A: You know, it's, it's, it's, it's a good opportunity. Energy diversity, in my view, all forms of energy, uh, matter, right? So let's make sure that it's economical. Let's make sure it helps lower prices for consumers. Let's make sure it makes energy more reliable. So keeping some of these coal plants. You know, the problem with coal is previous administrations have made coal so expensive that it was hard to, you know, continue to mine. So there was this natural, uh, trend. I think we're closing down these coal plants as they, as they reach their useful life and not extending them. Um, but now with some changes and with, obviously with energy prices where they are, coal gets a little more economical. So keeping some coal online is something that, um, we support, we want to make sure that everything is balanced. We want to make sure that we have uh, a good long term plan that includes natural gas is kind of that linchpin energy resource for all of us. Uh, but looking at coal around the edges as demand keeps going up, uh, and that's the key here Sean, because we kind of have an unprecedented demand increase in this country with data centers, with new industrial and manufacturing, um, enterprises coming online, all meaning more jobs, uh, you know, demand growth with uh, folks moving to southern climates that use a little bit more energy than other climates. Uh, so we want to make sure we meet those needs. We certainly don't want blackouts and brownouts and we want to make sure energy stays affordable. Those are the key. And energy's got to stay clean. So you know that's, that's been one of the challenges of coal. It's perceived as kind of the dirtier of the fossil energy. Uh, but they've made a lot of advances uh, to make it even cleaner than it was before. So um, having uh, coal come back online, making sure we have demand making, making sure we can meet demand, uh, and do it affordably and reliable, reliably, it's not a bad idea.

Speaker C: You know, the natural gas is up at an all time high as far as usage. Uh, the LNG that we're sending overseas, I saw where they brought online the first floating LNG export facility uh, off the coast down there in uh, the Gulf of America. So you know, they're making some infrastructure strides. Uh, but you know David, we're, we're still not where we need to be as far as um, getting that natural gas to where it's needs to go.

Speaker A: Oh, and that's the key man. It's, it's infrastructure, lots of pipelines, even transmission lines. Once you get the natural uh, gas where it needs to go, then you got to get it to the people. Um, yeah. And that, that's permitting reform at the state level, making sure local communities understand why things need to be built, built quickly. Uh, federal permitting reform which has been a challenge every, both parties continue to say they want permitting reform but we can't even get them together on that. So I'm not holding out a lot of hope for permitting reform in Washington, but they are talking uh, so we'll see. But consumer uh, Energy alliance has been working on some permitting reform at the state level. They kind of streamline some things to expedite permits um, for all projects. And so um, we're hopeful that in the 2027 legislative cycle, uh, we might get Some bills passed in a couple of key states that accelerate permitting at the state level. So all this needs to be looked at. We need to make sure that uh, we're building sufficient, ah, pipeline and infrastructure. Like you said. We've got to get the natural gas where it's needed and then we've got to get electricity um, produced by natural gas or other forms of energy to people. Uh, that's equally a big thing, uh, thing we've got to do.

Speaker C: David, I'm going to ask you this question. I know that um, uh, you know they had um, with the big beautiful bill they had put ANWR up uh, for some uh, some lease sales. It didn't quite go as good as it could have. I guess like $7 million worth of leases were sold. But you know, I don't know if it's because it's easier to extract that oil and cheaper to do it like in the Permian in Oklahoma and, and other plays around the United States. But uh, I was a little shocked by that. What was your thought?

Speaker A: You know, it's been a mixed bag. We had a record setting lease sale in New Mexico a couple weeks ago. We've had a record setting lease sale back in Alaska. Companies showing that they have a lot of interest to get back in Alaska. Um, you know, we've got more lease sales coming up. So um, you know, I think it shows their interest. I think it shows that the industry is really looking at the, you know, the geology uh, of these plays and making sure that uh, they're investing wisely. But having these lease sales, we're seeing, we're seeing some really positive activity as well.

Speaker C: I know that, um, I only have you for one segment so I'm going to drag you out just a little bit longer here. But how important are these, these midterm elections to the energy infrastructure and energy advancement in the United States?

Speaker D: States?

Speaker A: Oh, they're critical. You know it's like everything else. It's, it's, you know, it's up to us. Voters have to start voting for uh, politicians or policymakers for folks that are running for elected office that understand energy and understand that if you are intentionally increasing energy prices through really bad restrictive policies that mandate one form of energy over another or say no to natural gas or no to infrastructure development or uh, no to transmission development. You know, all you're doing is raising prices for those that can least afford to pay it. So you know, we try to take a nonpartisan approach to this. It doesn't matter if you have an R or D or an I after your name. If you understand energy, you understand energy policy, you understand that affordable energy drives this country like no other, uh, sector of our U.S. economy. Uh, then, then voters should give you a hard look. Um, increasingly we're seeing some folks on the progressive, hard, hard left, the Social Democrat, the socialist side of the party that, that take very silly views, not rational, not common sense views about energy. So uh, you know, I question where that part of the Democratic Party is going because it doesn't do the economy any good, it doesn't do consumers any good. It doesn't do frankly what you would argue their constituents need. Uh, because they say government should be able to supply everything for, for everybody. Well, if government is raising prices for everybody, you're not helping. Um, so I question that part of the Democratic Party a little bit. But you know, centrist Democrats, centrist Republicans, folks that understand energy policy, uh, that's who we should all be supporting. And ultimately it's up to us. You know, we need to take back on our energy policy in this country, take back our government in this country and vote, um, and make some rational, common sense votes. Uh, and energy should be a big part of that.

Speaker C: You know, gasoline prices are a big deal deal. Right now there's ah, one of the first brand new um, refineries being built down there in Texas, uh, first one since like the 70s or something. And, and then, and I'm seeing, you know, here in Oklahoma, they're retooling an old refinery to make it uh, to where West Texas Intermediate can be refined. So we've got to take care, like you said, of our own natural resources and uh, provide what we need and then whatever we have extra then we can supply to the world.

Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. You know, and global supply, global lng helps, you know, set prices, helps keep prices moderate because you have, you know, where your markets are. If you have excess, then you ship it overseas with lng. And you know, listen, we've got new, like you said, we've got that new refinery coming online. There is so much activity in the Gulf coast in Louisiana and Texas, uh, new industrial plants coming online, new manufacturing plants, all need natural gas and all need that infrastructure that we talked about. Um, so there's a lot of stuff going on, a lot of, you know, a lot of reasons for being optimistic in this country. Even the jobs report that came out last Friday was triple what they expected it to be. So, you know, jobs are coming on and those are all private sector jobs. This administration is really emphasize private sector jobs. They're decreasing the size of the federal government, saving all of us taxpayers money. So all these jobs that are coming online are private sector jobs and a lot of them are manufacturing and a lot of them are industrial process. But all of them have something to do with energy in making, um, making the world run. So whether it's direct or indirect, you know, natural gas and energy powers all those jobs. So that's. Those things give me a lot of hope for economic growth and opportunity and all the things that we, uh, love as Americans. So, um, energy is, uh, the growth and the change in our industry in the next 5, 10, 12 years with data centers and industrial growth and all the rest and LNG growth, uh, it's really going to be fascinating to watch.

Speaker C: David, how can people find out more about Consumers Energy alliance or maybe even become a part of it?

Speaker A: I appreciate you. Ah, it's easy. Just go to consumer energy alliance.org uh, check us out. All our social media feeds are right there at the top of the page and you can register to get our newsletter and all that good stuff. But, uh, the more that we're all involved and we're looking at, uh, ways to vote for sensible energy policy, the better it is for the country.

Speaker C: Amen, brother. Education is the key. And I appreciate you and your organization and others like your organization are looking out for the consumer in the United States. America first, baby. Hey, thank you so much, David. I know you got a busy schedule this morning. I appreciate you taking time out to visit with us and look forward to next month.

Speaker A: All right, John, always a pleasure, man. I'll talk to you in a few weeks.

Speaker C: You bet, buddy. Have a great day, David.

Speaker A: Thank you, man.

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Speaker K: All right,

Speaker C: so the oil prices again, a lot of it's depending on what's going on. Dave and I touched on it a little bit but kind of give you an idea. According to a ah, Reuters report, Brent has risen around 31% since the eve of the conflict. Over 100 days ago Israel hit a petrochemical plant in southwestern Iran that it said was used to produce ballistic missiles. And Iran Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps said the country retaliated with a strike aimed at a similar Israeli facility in the city of Hafa. The exchange followed Israeli strikes on strongholds of Iran backed Hezbollah in Beirut over the weekend. Tehran has repeatedly said any deal with Washington to end the conflict must include a halt to Israel's campaign in Lebanon. Also, it said that to one of the, um, in another story I was researching, said that the envoy to Moscow from Iran said that, uh, the ships are going to have to pay a fee to go through the Straits of Hormuz. And I don't know what makes Iran feel like that they own the rights to the Straits of Hormuz, uh, you know, to, um, be able to levy a toll through. I'm not sure. I don't think President Trump is going to, uh, go for that. But, uh, you never know. Stranger things have happened. We talked about the jobs report with David briefly in the United States. When we come back after this break, I'm going to talk about the energy workforce employment numbers that have just come out. We'll have that and more as the Tuesday edition of the Exploring Energy radio show continues in a moment.

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Speaker C: $21 million worth of equipment parts in stock. 200 factory trained certified technicians. 140 field service trucks ready to move to your job if needed. 323-3422 is the phone number online. Ascoeq.com that's a s c o e q dot com. Great outfit. Give them a chance if you haven't already. And with that being said, first of all, it was funny because uh, I had um, David, uh, Holt on the, um, on the horn and I picked it up to tell him he did a great job. And I was talking to Sammy Carnes. Sammy Carnes is running for county commissioner. I highly endorse Sammy Carnes because the other guy running is um, questionable. Uh, Sammy's the guy, I think. So, uh, if you have any faith in what I say, Sammy Carnes would be a fantastic, uh, Beckham County Commissioner. And um, it's my hope that he does win this. A lot of times you just need to look at the integrity of those that are running in these races as well. Energy workforce employment grows in Oklahoma and the U.S. as promised, we talked about employment numbers. The Energy Workforce and Technology council released its May 2026 jobs report showing continued growth in energy services employment as companies respond cautiously to improving activity levels across the sector. It also reflected increased energy employment in Oklahoma, where 148,180 were listed as employed in the sector. It was an increase of more than 400 workers since March in the state, energy services employment totaled 633,115 jobs in M. May, an increase of Almost well over 3,500, 3,619 positions, uh, from April, according to preliminary data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics and Energy Workforce Analysis. The increase makes the third consecutive month of employment growth in the energy sector. Since reaching a low of 625,057 jobs in January. The sector has added more than 8,000 jobs since then, reflecting a, uh, gradual improvement in activity and demand across portions of the industry. At the national level, the labor market also exceeded expectations. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, US employers added 172,000 jobs in May, significantly outperforming analysts forecast, despite ongoing concerns surrounding inflation and broader economic growth. You know, that brings me to the other deal. Just because the nation's doing good doesn't mean that inflation is happening. You know, it's um, uh, you really need to look at the nuts and bolts of the United States economy to really understand it. But the story goes on to say we continue to see a slow and steady increase in activity across, well, portions of the energy services sector, said Energy Workforce president Molly Detterman. Companies are receiving more requests for work and responding with measured workforce growth, not getting too big too quick, but they remain disciplined in their hiring decisions and long term planning. Dettermin noted that companies continue to balance growing demand with ongoing uncertainty surrounding commodity prices, global markets and geopolitical developments. While activity is improving, this is not a rapid expansion cycle. Determin said service companies are focused on sustainable growth, maintaining a skilled workforce and positioning themselves to meet future demand as market conditions continue to evolve. You know, the too big, too quick, you got to be, got to be very cautious with that. We, we saw that in a lot of boom and bust cycles in this industry, People are starting to smarten up a little bit. Um, I'm hoping even the people that are working in the oil and gas industry are starting to smarten up a little bit. I mean, back, back when I first got in this thing, I mean, it was fast and furious. I came here in the early 80s. Uh, the boom was still just rocking it. Everybody was, you know, getting these real expensive houses and filling their garage and storage buildings with these real expensive toys and just spending that money hand over fist. And then when that money abruptly stopped, there was a whole lot of stuff on tradio. There's a whole lot of repossessed items. So maybe the workers are starting to understand that, hey, uh, be smart, be glad when you get, when you're getting the money. Be glad, stick it back, save it, manage it companies the same way. When things are good, hang on to that money, keep some back. Try to get yourself through the lean times. Because there's one thing that I do know about this industry. It's peaks and valleys, it's ups, it's downs. Maybe not quite so much as it did because I mean, I remember, I mean, it was going just hog wild and then boom, last person in Elk City shut off the lights kind of thing. I mean, it was crazy how quickly the bust happened with the Penn State, Penn Bank, State bank and all that. I mean, it was just crazy to see, you know. So, uh, 2008, there was a good, good bunch of work going on. So hopefully, and this jobs report is kind of showing it, uh, and it said that companies are growing, but they're not over growing. They're adding people, but not adding too many people. It's Smart. That's the way they need to do. Of course the more of these companies that are investor controlled, you know, the investors and uh, well, they should want return on investment. That's why you invest money. You don't invest money to lose it. You don't invest money to break even. I one time had a guy tell me, I said, hey, you made yourself a little money. And he said, well I'm not in business. Make a little money. So hopefully this job report will show that uh, people are smarter, businesses are getting smarter. But the good news is we got guys going back to work, which is, that is nice. Some of the drilling activity in Oklahoma we talked about, we slipped one rig but still not bad. It's probably just moving. Very little change in the various oil and gas plays across the state in the past week. Also overall the state's count slipped by one leaving 43 active rigs. The Cannon Woodford, typically with the highest rig activity recorded a decline of two rigs leaving 19 still drilling in that play. However, the Granite Wash, another busy play, recorded a gain of one rig and reached 18. You know, uh, for that, uh, for that total, another plays the Ardmore Woodford and Oklahoma continue with two active rigs while the Arcoma Woodford remained with one rig. Oklahoma's Mississippi play went another week without any reported drilling based on the Baker Hughes rig count, the nation's strongest shale play. Of course the Permian Basin added two rigs for a total of 257 there. Across the stretch from West Texas to southeast New Mexico, the Haynesville and East Texas and Louisiana remained at 55 active rigs while the Eagle Ford of uh, South Texas was unchanged to 44 rigs in that play. Breaking uh, the horizon, the Williston in North Dakota and Montana remained at 28 rigs while the Marcellus continued with 24 rigs. The Uticus total remained at 12 and the DJ Nair Prar in Colorado saw no change with eight active rigs in that play. I'm going to take a quick break and be back with the mop up segment of the Tuesday edition of the Exploring Energy radio show right here on 965Keco. Stick uh around, won't you?

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Speaker N: I mean, because when they're in a bind, they're in a bind. You want that company to think of you first. Oh, we need this. Well, call Brock. You call me. We'll, uh, get it taken care of. When they call you, they want you to answer the phone. And whether it's Sunday, Saturday or Monday, they also want customer service. Do what you say you're going to do. You needed a hose like yesterday. We will stop what we're doing. And if we got to go to our Oklahoma City shop and get it, we'll do that. And I've done that for a lot of my customers. If they call me, they're expecting me to get whatever task done to a farmer, tractor, combine gets them up and running. Uh, he's back in the field, makes some money. Guy in the oil field, their piece of equipment's running again. That makes them money. Solves that problem. I'm Brock Kauk and my company is American Hose and Supply. Come by and see us at 2111 South Main, Elk City, Oklahoma, in Camrock building next to Fred's.

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Speaker K: Well, everyone get your deodorant out now and apply it. You're welcome for that visual because today

Speaker F: we're going to be sunny with a high under 95. Heat index values as high as 98. South wind 17 to 22 mph with gusts as high as 33. Tonight mostly clear with the low around 74. South wind 18 to 22 mph with gusts as High as 33. Wednesday is going to be sunny and hot with 198. Heat index of values as high as one hundred and three. So definitely apply your deodorant tomorrow as well. Windy with the south southwest winds 22 to 25 mph with gusts as high as 38. Thursday, a 20% chance of showers and thunderstorms after 1pm Sunny and hot with a high near 98. South southwest wind 15 to 22 mph with gusts as high as 33. Friday, a 30% chance of showers and thunderstorms before 1pm Partly sunny with a high near 89. Saturday, a 30% chance of showers 30 thunderstorms mainly after 1pm Partly sunny with a high 95. Again Sunday, a uh, 50% chance of showers and thunderstorms, mostly sunny with a high 88. And Monday a 30% chance of showers, mostly sunny with a high 83.

Speaker C: So you're saying there's a chance?

Speaker F: There's a good chance as of right now, yeah.

Speaker C: And it's supposed to cool down a little bit too. I'm looking forward to that. Here's some energy news in my briefs. Crude oil prices spiked early yesterday after the Israeli Air Force Force conducted strikes on military targets in central and western Iran. Talked about that a little earlier. The Israeli Defense Forces said in a statement the strikes followed an Iranian missile attack against Israel. This is the first time Israel has struck Iran since the April 8 ceasefire. The Strait of Hormuz will be open, but under new conditions to be set by Iran and Oman, including a transit fee. Iran's ambassador to Moscow was quite at a certain saying, uh, Monday this week. U.S. forces struck Iranian coastal radar sites on Saturday after shooting down drones launched by Iran toward the Strait of Hormuz. The US military said in the latest escalation, complicating efforts to end the war between the two countries. And, uh, major oil companies aren't showing interest in drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, the Anwar, despite White House efforts to promote a development friendly regime. Why it matters, Tepid bidding and Friday's lease sale and the big oil company sitting it out completely shows one major area where the industry is just not backing up. Trump's drill baby drill mantra, according to Axios. Of course that's real left leaning, but basically it's, it's a little easier and cheaper to drill in other areas. That's, it's smart business anyway. The Supreme Court sided 8 to 1 with the Federal Communications Commissions against two telecom giants over a combined $100 million in fines. Chief Justice John Roberts wrote for the majority. The loan to center was Justice Clarence Thomas. Telecom companies at&t& Verizon claimed the FCC violated their rights to a jury trial by issuing fines for an alleged violation of the law. Who and the Trump administration orders Orlando, Florida's municipal utility to continue operating a 465 megawatt coal fired power plant to support new data centers and other large loads. When you get over there as far as energy stock, are you doing some good?

Speaker K: No, it looks bad today.

Speaker C: All red. What do you got?

Speaker F: I know American Electric power is up $0.01, trading at, uh, 126.78. Apache is down $0.94 to 36.72. Baker Hughes is the down $0.28 to 64. $.56. ConocoPhillips is down $1.76 to 117.13. Devon Energy is down $0.83 to $44.26. Theog Resources down $1.61 to $138.61. Expand Energy is down $0.74 to $89.68. General Electric is up $8.44 to $330.47. Halliburton is down $0.41 to 4010. Helmer Campaign is down $0.42 to 38.72. Liberty Energy is down $0.21 to to $28.52. Occidental Petroleum is down $0.78 to 56.69. OGE Energy is up $0.23 to 4685. ONEOK is down $0.71 to 87.46. Phillips 66 is down $3.40 to 183. Sandridge Energy is down $0.20 to $14.92. Lumberjay is up $0.14 to 56.69. And Williams Companies is down $0.34 at uh.71 23.

Speaker C: There you have it again. Crude, uh, oil prices quickly. 8847 uh, for uh, West Texas Intermediate 1972 for Brent crude oil, uh, New York Mercantile Exchange Natural gas up a penny 3.16 per million BTU. Be back again tomorrow with remember when. Wednesday. Looking forward to that. Yesterday I had Bandy Silk come in and do a commercial for, for um, Butch Goldsberry who's uh, running for uh, the district, uh, commissioner also. Yeah, County Commissioner Beckham County. Um, I think he'll make a great county commissioner as well. So with that being said, thanks uh, TJ for coming in. Of course somebody wants to grow their business, they can get a hold of

Speaker F: you right here at station.

Speaker C: Yes, they can. Only one TJ around here. That's you.

Speaker F: That's right.

Speaker C: We're glad to have you, young lady. Thanks for coming in. Thanks to David Holt, the president of the Consumers Energy alliance for being our featured guest today. Again, remember when Wednesday had a chance to peek a little ahead and there's some really good stories, a lot of about Oklahoma and we continue tomorrow right here on the same bat time, same bat channel, 96. 5 case. You know, on behalf of TJ and all, uh, of my great sponsors, I'm Sean Wilson. Thanks for listening. I promise we'll talk again. Have yourself a great day.