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Down the HR Rabbit Hole

Hosted by Sanders Offner

★4.2on Apple Podcasts · 5 recent reviews

Podcast by Sanders Offner

26 episodes · publishes fortnightly · latest 2024-05-09 · ~24 min/episode

Rank

#2750

Substance

63.0

/ 100

Breakdown

Scored 2026-07
Updated monthly

HR rank

#147 of 379

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Across the index

#2750 of 6181

Substance

Top 44%

outscores 56% of the index

Why it scores where it does

Down the HR Rabbit Hole ranks #2750 on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 63.0 out of 100, scored across 1 recent episode. It scores highest on guest caliber and insight density. Alex Glazer is a genuine practitioner - a partner at Jones Walker with a real specialty in employee benefits and executive compensation - and his answers reflect hands-on deal experience rather than thought-leadership abstraction, but the conversational format prevents him from going deep enough to demonstrate elite-level expertise.

The five-dimension breakdown

Averaged across 1 recently scored episode, with cited evidence.

Insight Density

13.0 / 20

There are genuine practitioner insights - particularly on phantom equity tax timing advantages over restricted stock, ADEA-specific disclosure requirements, and the counterintuitive risk of severance offers planting litigation ideas - but these are surrounded by extensive small talk, meandering anecdotes, and surface-level recaps that dilute the per-minute signal significantly.

“when that restricted stock vest, you have to pay tax on it. And a lot of times it's, you know, if that restricted stock is not publicly traded, you have to come out of pocket because that's phantom taxable income to you. Right. Employees don't realize that and then they're stuck with this huge tax bill. Whereas the phantom equity arrangement, you don't owe tax until it's actually paid out”

“does that even making the severance offer, does it give the employee a thought? Wait, now that I read this, maybe I am part of a protection, protected class. Maybe I do have a claim”

Originality

11.0 / 20

Phantom equity is explained clearly but is not a novel concept, and most of the severance guidance is well-known employment-law boilerplate; the only genuinely counterintuitive point - that making a severance offer can itself raise an employee's awareness of potential claims - is brief and underdeveloped.

“by making it, are you actually putting in the employee's head that they might have a claim?”

“it's cool in the sense that it's not governed by the tax code or erisa. Uh, there's no requirements. It's a pure contractual Right”

Guest Caliber

16.0 / 20

Alex Glazer is a genuine practitioner - a partner at Jones Walker with a real specialty in employee benefits and executive compensation - and his answers reflect hands-on deal experience rather than thought-leadership abstraction, but the conversational format prevents him from going deep enough to demonstrate elite-level expertise.

“I am a partner at Jones Walker. Uh, deal with a lot of labor and employment issues with a specialty in employee benefits and executive compensation”

“it's not like a 401 plan where you go buy it off the shelf from, you know, from a fidelity or something like that. These things are all pretty individually negotiated”

Specificity & Evidence

12.0 / 20

The episode references real legal statutes (ADEA, Title VII, FLSA, Defend Trade Secrets Act, NLRB guidance, Dodd-Frank) and offers one concrete benchmark (phantom equity pools rarely above 10%, usually 5% or less), but there are no named client case studies, no dollar figures on outcomes, and no data on frequency or litigation rates.

“I never see them above like 10%. Usually it's like 5% or less. Um, and oftentimes it's like a phantom equity pool where it's 5% and then you know, the company can divvy it up”

“the NLRB had some disclosures a couple years ago regarding non disparagement and severance agreements for non managerial employees”

Conversational Craft

11.0 / 20

The hosts ask a handful of reasonable follow-up questions (on tax treatment, employee departure scenarios, and severance in clear-cause terminations) but frequently accept high-level answers without pressing for specifics, and a meaningful portion of airtime is consumed by introductory banter, personal anecdotes, and jokes that produce no transferable knowledge.

“I introduced you first and now you're one”

“So how do you limit that?”

Standout episodes

  • Episode 25: Equity Compensation Plans & Severance Agreements

    2024-05-09

    63

Rank over time

First period on the Index - history builds from here.

Episodes

1 scored on substance · 26 tracked in total.

  • Episode 25: Equity Compensation Plans & Severance Agreements

    2024-05-09 · 44 min

    63 / 100

What listeners say on Apple Podcasts

★★★★★
Love these podcasts
I look forward to these as they provide wonderful advice and great insight. Good job.

- DOW30

★★★★★
HR professionals need to listen to this podcast
As a professional who works closely with my HR team, this podcast offers unique and golden perspectives that business leaders should listen to. The hosts always discuss important topics and find knowledgeable guests that are able to share practical and helpful insights that will bring your organization to the next level.

- customers first for tech

Frequently asked

What is Down the HR Rabbit Hole's substance score?
Down the HR Rabbit Hole scores 63.0 out of 100 for substance and ranks #2750 on The B2B Podcast Index. That puts it ahead of 56% of the B2B podcasts we rank and #147 of 379 in HR. The score reflects insight density, originality, guest caliber, specificity and conversational craft across recent episodes - not downloads.
Is Down the HR Rabbit Hole worth listening to?
Yes - Down the HR Rabbit Hole outscores 56% of the B2B hr podcasts and shows we rank on substance, so a hr operator is likely to come away with something useful.
Who hosts Down the HR Rabbit Hole?
Down the HR Rabbit Hole is hosted by Sanders Offner.
How often does Down the HR Rabbit Hole publish?
Down the HR Rabbit Hole publishes fortnightly, has 26 episodes, released its most recent episode on 2024-05-09.
Which Down the HR Rabbit Hole episode should I start with?
Our highest-scoring recent episode is "Episode 25: Equity Compensation Plans & Severance Agreements" (63/100) - a good place to start.

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