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Deep Leadership

Hosted by Jon S. Rennie

★5.0on Apple Podcasts · 37 recent reviews

“Leadership is a People Business.” That's the philosophy of this leadership podcast from Jon Rennie. It's real-world, actionable advice from Jon as well as his expert guests.

462 episodes · publishes weekly · latest 2026-11-07 · ~39 min/episode

Rank

#4346

Substance

55.0

/ 100

Breakdown

Scored 2026-07
Updated monthly

Leadership rank

#588 of 1042

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Across the index

#4346 of 6220

Substance

Top 70%

outscores 30% of the index

Why it scores where it does

Deep Leadership ranks #4346 on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 55.0 out of 100, scored across 1 recent episode. It scores highest on guest caliber and specificity & evidence. Jessie is a genuine zero-to-one practitioner who scaled a co-working operation from coordinator to president through COVID with no prior business background - a real story with real operational texture - but the business is small (3 locations, regional) and she is not a recognised B2B operator at scale.

The five-dimension breakdown

Averaged across 1 recently scored episode, with cited evidence.

Insight Density

11.0 / 20

A handful of usable operational nuggets appear (B Corp triple-bottom-line practice, the hiring-for-EQ pivot, pandemic community-retention story) but the majority of the episode is generic leadership philosophy and personal narrative filler, with the host adding lengthy editorialising that crowds out substantive ideas.

“82.5% of people say that the loading dock has improved their well being”

“as a leader you are not taking the temperature, you are setting the temperature”

Originality

9.0 / 20

The 'reluctant leader' frame has marginal novelty but virtually every idea is recycled mainstream leadership doctrine - Covey's Seven Habits, servant-leadership tropes, 'hire for culture fit,' and 'do good to do well' B-corp messaging that circulates constantly.

“the seven habits are based off of 20 years of research of like, what do the most successful people have in common? It's these seven habits”

“I often say that they, the best leaders become a leader to make a difference and sort of the weaker leaders do it to make money”

Guest Caliber

13.0 / 20

Jessie is a genuine zero-to-one practitioner who scaled a co-working operation from coordinator to president through COVID with no prior business background - a real story with real operational texture - but the business is small (3 locations, regional) and she is not a recognised B2B operator at scale.

“started off as community coordinator, just sort of an assistant type position, and now I'm president”

“we're 99% full, we're having record breaking months”

Specificity & Evidence

13.0 / 20

The episode includes several concrete figures (1,300 members, 450 companies, 82.5% wellbeing improvement, 99% occupancy, 2% revenue donated to nonprofits, 6.5-year tenure) and named entities, but the data is mostly survey-based or anecdotal with no financial metrics or comparative benchmarks.

“we have 1300 members and we have 450 companies”

“consumers are like 80 something percent more likely to choose your company over another company when they know that you're giving back”

Conversational Craft

9.0 / 20

The host repeatedly answers his own questions, appends lengthy monologues after each guest response ('I love that…I always say…'), and asks leading or multi-part softballs with no meaningful follow-up or challenge throughout the episode.

“That's a great question. Why does some leaders not set out to lead?”

“I love that. Yeah. Because I think if you're not centered, if you don't have a, you know, a goal and a mission and you're very clear on your values, when the storms come, you get blown away”

Standout episodes

  • #0438 - Why the Best Leaders Never Planned to Be Leaders with Jessie Hathcock

    2026-06-25

    55

Rank over time

First period on the Index - history builds from here.

Episodes

1 scored on substance · 60 tracked in total.

  • #0438 - Why the Best Leaders Never Planned to Be Leaders with Jessie Hathcock

    2026-06-25 · 38 min

    55 / 100

What listeners say on Apple Podcasts

★★★★★
FABULOUS Podcast!
Insightful, practical wisdom on Jon’s Podcast. Deep Leadership stands out as a top podcast for anyone who is serious about becoming a better leader. Jon brings clarity, humility and real-world experience for him and his guests. (I was a guest). I had a great experience as a guest, and how I am a big fan and don’t miss an episode!

- Jill Schulman

★★★★★
Leading with Head and Heart
Jon Rennie has built something remarkable with Deep Leadership. Every episode is grounded, authentic, and actionable. Episode 400 was a true celebration and full of takeaways.

- CaliCosimo

Frequently asked

What is Deep Leadership's substance score?
Deep Leadership scores 55.0 out of 100 for substance and ranks #4346 on The B2B Podcast Index. That puts it ahead of 30% of the B2B podcasts we rank and #588 of 1042 in Leadership. The score reflects insight density, originality, guest caliber, specificity and conversational craft across recent episodes - not downloads.
Is Deep Leadership worth listening to?
Deep Leadership is ranked on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 55.0/100. See the five-dimension breakdown above to judge whether it fits what you're after.
Who hosts Deep Leadership?
Deep Leadership is hosted by Jon S. Rennie.
How often does Deep Leadership publish?
Deep Leadership publishes weekly, has 462 episodes, released its most recent episode on 2026-11-07.
Which Deep Leadership episode should I start with?
Our highest-scoring recent episode is "#0438 - Why the Best Leaders Never Planned to Be Leaders with Jessie Hathcock" (55/100) - a good place to start.

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Guests who've appeared

Jessie Hathcock

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The themes that come up most across this show's episodes.

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