Cybersecurity Where You Are · 2026-06-24 · 39 min
In episode 193 of Cybersecurity Where You Are, Sean Atkinson and Tony Sager sit down with Rob T. Lee , Chief of Research & Chief AI Officer at the SANS Institute, and Brian Calkin , Chief Technology and Innovation Officer at the Center for Internet Security® (CIS®). Together, they discuss AI security and the responsibility of the U.S. government in creating confidence around it, as represented in Executive Order (EO) 14409, "Promoting Advanced Artificial Intelligence Innovation and Security." Here are some highlights from our episode: 00:50 . Introductions to Rob and Brian 02:32 . How to conceptualize confidence around something as complex as AI security 04:32 . The U.S. government's responsibility to set AI security guardrails as clear expectations 08:12 . The use of "voluntary" participation to create confidence in the context of EO 14409 14:38 . How Mythos AI and similar developments affect assessment of frontier AI models 17:11 . Airport security as an analogy for understanding AI security and privacy concerns 18:41 . Why cybersecurity is a hard sell until an incident occurs 20:50 . How AI is quickly becoming critical infrastructure 22:53 .
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