
Cybersecurity Where You Are · 2026-06-17 · 32 min
In episode 192 of Cybersecurity Where You Are, Sean Atkinson and Tony Sager sit down with Marcus Sachs , Senior Vice President and Chief Engineer at the Center for Internet Security® (CIS®). Together, they discuss how leaders, including those in cybersecurity, balance their technical expertise with mastery of communication strategies. Here are some highlights from our episode: 00:51 . Introductions to Marcus 02:04 . How Marcus found value in using analogies to communicate complex topics 08:40 . Coordination with non-technical folks as a sign of leadership maturity 14:03 . The wisdom in knowing what to say and what not to say when managing up 17:31 . The need to balance technical skills with team resourcing in a way that's imitable 21:07 . The challenge of leaders learning by proximity in hybrid and remote environments 24:16 . "Classic" engineering vs. "new" engineering 25:13 . Lessons from Boards in applying discipline, rigor, and order to software engineering 28:23 .